Mary and Jesus, their bodies and the Eucharist

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Can someone explain to me how Jesus’ body is different than Mary’s body?

If the body of Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit and Mary had the perfect body so as to give birth to Jesus, does this mean his blood is the same as Mary’s blood? What about their bodies? (aside from the XY, XX difference)

The theological implications of this are somewhat taboo to talk about regarding the sacrament of the Eucharist at least in Catholic circles. I also fully understand that I’m receiving the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of JESUS in the Eucharist but the thought dawned on me and…yeah…

I understand the the Soul and Divinity aspect of the Eucharist, of Jesus, would be unique. But the Body and Blood is throwing me off.
 
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Hi🙂,
Jesus and Mary do have same human system.
The Eucharist is His body and blood too because he died for us as both human and God. That is why you can’t separate his human and Divine side in the Eucharist.
I hope this helped you at least somewhat.
 
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I am not sure what you are driving at, or what you think the “taboo” is. Jesus is not a clone of Mary, if that is what you are trying to suggest. Jesus doesn’t “share” Mary’s blood or body, anymore than any child “shares” their parents blood or body.
 
Under normal circumstances (human intercourse, 2 sets of chromosomes) I understand that. But Mary is ever virgin, so was Jesus’ body just made to be completely separate, did he inherit qualities from Mary? I believe he did. The fact that there is no male side of the chromosome throws things off a little, even though they were miraculously given by God.

I’m totally willing to part with Mary doesn’t have the same Body, Soul, and Divinity, that just logical but maybe I just don’t understand how the blood of a person is uniquely different from person to person? I would assume they have the same blood type, since there is nothing to change it.

You could say a similar thing about Adam and Eve, were they technically clones of each other? If Eve came from the side of Adam?
 
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Thank you, I understand that you can’t separate any of those 4 things. I’m more implying that if at a minimum Mary and Jesus have the same blood, is Mary somewhat even passively sharing in the Eucharist.

The Church does proclaim her the Mediatrix of ALL GRACES…makes you wonder. Though not dogmatic, she is also referred to as Coredemtrix, and certainly is our Advocate before God.
 
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ColoradoCatholic said:
Thank you, I understand that you can’t separate any of those 4 things. I’m more implying that if at a minimum Mary and Jesus have the same blood, is Mary somewhat even passively sharing in the Eucharist.

The Church does proclaim her the Mediatrix of ALL GRACES…makes you wonder. Though not dogmatic, she is also referred to as Coredemtrix, and certainly is our Advocate before God.
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No. Jesus’ blood is his blood. Mary’s blood is her blood. Steve’s blood is Steve’s blood. Sally’s blood is Sally’s blood.
 
That’s great, but I’m looking for either a scientific or an apologetic response. “No” doesn’t help me understand or even answer the question.

The reason I asked this is because I’ve put a lot of time in understanding the faith, its just that this question stumped me.
 
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I want to follow this discussion. I am of the opinion that Jesus’s blood must be different than Mary’s, simply because they are different people. Also, if they were not different, then Mary’s blood could have saved us, but it can’t, only Jesus’s can. How it happened is a mystery.
 
ColoradoCatholic said:
Under normal circumstances (human intercourse, 2 sets of chromosomes) I understand that. But Mary is ever virgin, so was Jesus’ body just made to be completely separate, did he inherit qualities from Mary? I believe he did. The fact that there is no male side of the chromosome throws things off a little, even though they were miraculously given by God.

I’m totally willing to part with Mary doesn’t have the same Body, Soul, and Divinity, that just logical but maybe I just don’t understand how the blood of a person is uniquely different from person to person? I would assume they have the same blood type, since there is nothing to change it.
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I am still not understanding. Even if they had the same blood type, who cares? Or mostly the same DNA (which we don’t even know if that is true). Even identical twins are different people, and can’t be said to share the same blood in the way you seem to mean that.
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You could say a similar thing about Adam and Eve, were they technically clones of each other? If Eve came from the side of Adam?
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Well, I think that is an overly literal view of that passage. But even so, once we are in the realm of miracle, who knows? If God can make a woman from a rib, who knows what her DNA is?
 
Totally want to agree, except on one thing: Jesus was Divine, that’s why Mary couldn’t save us.
 
ColoradoCatholic said:
That’s great, but I’m looking for either a scientific or an apologetic response. “No” doesn’t help me understand or even answer the question.

The reason I asked this is because I’ve put a lot of time in understanding the faith, its just that this question stumped me.
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What is complex about the question? Jesus formed in Mary’s womb, and Mary contributed material, but they are separate persons and, in an Aristotlean sense, “substances”. Same would go for identical twins. The blood that Jesus’ body produced and used is his blood. Aside from that, we don’t think Jesus was a clone of Mary. His own blood would have had different genetic material than Mary, but I don’t think that type of analysis is necessary here.
 
So it seems you just answered your question. Jesus’s blood is different than Mary’s
 
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I want to follow this discussion. I am of the opinion that Jesus’s blood must be different than Mary’s, simply because they are different people. Also, if they were not different, then Mary’s blood could have saved us, but it can’t, only Jesus’s can. How it happened is a mystery.
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Jesus’ blood doesn’t save us because of some magical property that it could share with Mary’s blood or anything else. Jesus’ blood saves us because it is Jesus’ blood. Because of who He is. Not because of some quality of the liquid. If the identical liquid flowed in Mary’s veins (or anyone else’s) it would not be salvific.
 
In regards to the Adam and Eve thing, I understand there are many many ways we can interpret Genesis, but I’ve always held to the fact that the one thing you must believe is that all of them are at least possible through God. That being said, a wrench gets thrown in the whole evolution argument because the church teaches Adam and Eve were real people.

However, lol, this is not the main topic of discussion.

I’m merely asking if Mary had a minimal participation in the Eucharist however theologically significant, since she is Mediatrix of all graces. (You guys are helping me formulate my question better so thank you all).
 
Also agree, i reformulated my question…I guess I could start another topic but I’ll try to keep it here.
 
ColoradoCatholic said:
I’m merely asking if Mary had a minimal participation in the Eucharist however theologically significant, since she is Mediatrix of all graces. (You guys are helping me formulate my question better so thank you all).
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This is a completely different question. I think there are a large range of possible answers, some of which depend on what one’s understanding is of “participation in the Eucharist.”
 
Agreed, and if you read Mary of Agreda, it says Mary undergoes all the suffering that Jesus went through.

I know people PRIVATE REVELATION lol…but it is interesting. I’m just so fascinated with the faith and its truth that I have an unquenching thirst for more knowledge…its just fun to me.
 
I don’t think we disagree, maybe just explaining it differently. The original question seemed to imply to me that Mary and Jesus shared blood somehow, but Jesus’s blood is the only divine blood, so it must be different than Mary’s.
 
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Yes. I don’t really want to believe that. Hence why I asked the question to try and disprove the clone theory.

Calling all Catholic Biologists!!!
 
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