Mary as mediatrix?

[pm2222]

I have heard this before, but had not paid too much attention to it until yesterday when i was listening to a talk on my iphone and from this talk, i got the impression that the speaker was saying God gives his grace through Mary’s intercession. How much grace does He give through Mary’s intercession? Like it confused me because when I think of the Mass and receiving the Eucharist, I thought we believe that grace is directly from God. And in confession, I thought it was God who directly gives us that grace. So how far does Mary’s role as mediatrix go?

 

[Dorothy]

I have heard this before, but had not paid too much attention to it until yesterday when i was listening to a talk on my iphone and from this talk, i got the impression that the speaker was saying God gives his grace through Mary’s intercession. How much grace does He give through Mary’s intercession? Like it confused me because when I think of the Mass and receiving the Eucharist, I thought we believe that grace is directly from God. And in confession, I thought it was God who directly gives us that grace. So how far does Mary’s role as mediatrix go?

Here are several items you can choose to listen to, or articles to read about Our Blessed Mother as Mediatrix.

catholic.com/search/content/Mary%20as%20Mediatrix

 

[Joe_Kelley]

Some place I have read that God will give the world peace only when we ask for it through Mary, because He wants her honored. I think it is probably true in many other things.

Since the Eucharist is the Body of Jesus and she supplied that body, I suggest that it very much comes through her.

 

[vladdy]

I have heard this before, but had not paid too much attention to it until yesterday when i was listening to a talk on my iphone and from this talk, i got the impression that the speaker was saying God gives his grace through Mary’s intercession. How much grace does He give through Mary’s intercession? Like it confused me because when I think of the Mass and receiving the Eucharist, I thought we believe that grace is directly from God. And in confession, I thought it was God who directly gives us that grace. So how far does Mary’s role as mediatrix go?

1 Timothy 2:5

For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man[a] Christ Jesus

 

[Dorothy]

1 Timothy 2:5

For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man[a] Christ Jesus

We Catholics know that Our Lord Jesus Christ is the One Mediator! Please be aware of that.

We are very aware that Mary can be mediator just as you and I are mediators. I am sure that you pray for others, and that others pray for you. I do the same. In that way we are mediators for one another, focused on the One Mediator, Jesus Christ.

I do not expect lyou to understand everything about Blessed Mother Mary as Catholics do, but I wanted to share what I did so that you do not mistakenly believe that we idolize her. Everything she has comes from Our Lord Jesus Christ,…and she knows it.

Peace,

Dorothy

 

[mytruepower2]

I have heard this before, but had not paid too much attention to it until yesterday when i was listening to a talk on my iphone and from this talk, i got the impression that the speaker was saying God gives his grace through Mary’s intercession. How much grace does He give through Mary’s intercession? Like it confused me because when I think of the Mass and receiving the Eucharist, I thought we believe that grace is directly from God. And in confession, I thought it was God who directly gives us that grace. So how far does Mary’s role as mediatrix go?

On a certain level, Mary is “mediatrix of all Grace” simply because she brought “all Grace” into the world. Also, if you appeal to her through certain Marian devotions (like the rosary,) she can present your prayers before God personally, interceding for you. She also pleads regularly with God for her children’s wellbeing. As far as I know, this is as far as her mediation goes.

 

[LaSainte]

We Catholics know that Our Lord Jesus Christ is the One Mediator! Please be aware of that.

We are very aware that Mary can be mediator just as you and I are mediators. I am sure that you pray for others, and that others pray for you. I do the same. In that way we are mediators for one another, focused on the One Mediator, Jesus Christ.

I do not expect lyou to understand everything about Blessed Mother Mary as Catholics do, but I wanted to share what I did so that you do not mistakenly believe that we idolize her. Everything she has comes from Our Lord Jesus Christ,…and she knows it.

Peace,

Dorothy

Yes!!!

 

[InJesusItrust]

1 Timothy 2:5

For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man[a] Christ Jesuists

1 Timothy 2:1

I desire, therefore, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men:

Why should we mediate for other men?

 

[Dorothy]

1 Timothy 2:1

I desire, therefore, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men:

Why should we mediate for other men?

It shows that we depend on the Lord for all things, and that we care about the members of the Body of Christ and love others as well as ourselves.

 

[Luvtosew]

I also pray for other people but when I do I pray to God. I also ask people if they will say a pray for me, but I have no idea who they pray to (but they are RC and or Protastants so I know they are Christians and praying to the same God as I worship)

 

[Ubenedictus]

I have heard this before, but had not paid too much attention to it until yesterday when i was listening to a talk on my iphone and from this talk, i got the impression that the speaker was saying God gives his grace through Mary’s intercession. How much grace does He give through Mary’s intercession? Like it confused me because when I think of the Mass and receiving the Eucharist, I thought we believe that grace is directly from God. And in confession, I thought it was God who directly gives us that grace. So how far does Mary’s role as mediatrix go?

he was probably refering to louise marie de monfort view on mary and grace. Monfort built his idea on the above principle that mary gave birth to Jesus and so by extension a secondary madiatrix but i dont think he stoped there he PROBABLY thought that all grace has been given to mary by her son Jesus thus she is a mother and madiatrix.
The book in question is ‘‘true devotion to mary’’ but im no theologian and cant say this with full confidence that im speaking his mind.
Ubenedictus

 

[TimothyH]

Mary is the Mediatrix of all Grace.

Grace was won for us by Jesus on the Cross, is distributed to us through the hands of Mary, and is applied to us through the action of the Holy Spirit.

All grace is distributed to us through the hands of Mary. Every grace from every prayer comes to us through the hands of Mary and because Mary wills that it be so. Every return to grace by every sinner who confesses in the confessional comes to us through Mary because she wills it in accordance with her son’s wishes. Every grace recieved by every reception of the Eucharist comes to us through the hands of Mary.

*Leo XIII, Encyclical, Octobri mense adventante, Sept 22, 1891, *** 24, 1891, 196.
… it is right to say, that nothing at all of that very great treasury of all grace which the Lord brought us–for ‘grace and truth came through Jesus Christ’ [Jn 1.17]–nothing is imparted to us except through Mary, since God so wills, so that just as no one can come to the Father except through the Son, so in general, no one can come to Christ except through His Mother.

Pius XI, Encyclical, Ingravescentibus malis, Sept 29, 1937, AAS 29, 1927, 380.
… we know also that all things are imparted to us from God the Greatest and Best, through the hands of the Mother of God.*

Jesus is the King, and Mary is his Queen. Mary has been given the key to the treasury of grace which Her Son the King has won and established. That is how high Mary is, above all the angels and saints, a Queen second only to her Son the King.

It will be the fifth marian dogma. I hope it will be within my lifetime.

-Tim-

 

[Uzziah1]

I believe that a special role of Mary in the salvation process is heralded by the gospel story of the wedding feast at Cana …

(1) Mary asks Jesus to solve the “wine problem” – allegorically, she is interceding for the benefits of the sacrificial blood of Christ.

(2) Jesus responds, first, by conferring the “Woman” title on Mary, making it clear that she is the Woman foreshadowed in Genesis 3 when the narrator has God Himself predicting that He, God, would “put enmity” between the Woman and the Satan serpent.

(3) Then Jesus does something astonishing. In response to Mary’s intercession, He initially “articulates the ‘Protestant line’”: Essentially, He indicates that He, almighty God, doesn’t need Mary’s (name removed by moderator)ut; it’s none of her business (“Woman, how does your concern affect me?”), and her timing is contrary to God’s timing (“My hour has not yet come”). But Mary confidently implies that her Son with a nasty response will help them as she requested. AND JESUS, PERFECTLY CONTRARY TO HIS OWN IMPLICATION, DOES AS MARY REQUESTED.

(4) Mary’s appointment as Official Human Intercessor actually occurred as Jesus was hanging on the cross: “Woma, behold your son,” referring to John and, in principle, us.

 

[Ubenedictus]

Mary is the Mediatrix of all Grace.

Grace was won for us by Jesus on the Cross, is distributed to us through the hands of Mary, and is applied to us through the action of the Holy Spirit.

All grace is distributed to us through the hands of Mary. Every grace from every prayer comes to us through the hands of Mary and because Mary wills that it be so. Every return to grace by every sinner who confesses in the confessional comes to us through Mary because she wills it in accordance with her son’s wishes. Every grace recieved by every reception of the Eucharist comes to us through the hands of Mary.

Leo XIII, Encyclical, Octobri mense adventante, Sept 22, 1891, *** 24, 1891, 196.
… it is right to say, that nothing at all of that very great treasury of all grace which the Lord brought us–for ‘grace and truth came through Jesus Christ’ [Jn 1.17]–nothing is imparted to us except through Mary, since God so wills, so that just as no one can come to the Father except through the Son, so in general, no one can come to Christ except through His Mother.

Pius XI, Encyclical, Ingravescentibus malis, Sept 29, 1937, AAS 29, 1927, 380.
… we know also that all things are imparted to us from God the Greatest and Best, through the hands of the Mother of God.

Jesus is the King, and Mary is his Queen. Mary has been given the key to the treasury of grace which Her Son the King has won and established. That is how high Mary is, above all the angels and saints, a Queen second only to her Son the King.

It will be the fifth marian dogma. I hope it will be within my lifetime.

-Tim-

i think this is the ‘‘style’’ i was talking about, if the dogma is defined in these line of reason then the catholic theologians will have much apologia to write because our protestant brother will certainly protest.
Ubenedictus

 

[Dorothy]

i think this is the ‘‘style’’ i was talking about, if the dogma is defined in these line of reason then the catholic theologians will have much apologia to write because our protestant brother will certainly protest.
Ubenedictus

There are ways of articulating truths so that the hearers will better be able to understand. That may need to be done in order to better explain where the Catholic teaching about Our Blessed Mother is coming from.

We mustn’t fear the protests of others; we need to articulate in a way that others will begin to understand. With the help of the Holy Spirit we can do this.

 

[FCEGM]

I have heard this before, but had not paid too much attention to it until yesterday when i was listening to a talk on my iphone and from this talk, i got the impression that the speaker was saying God gives his grace through Mary’s intercession. How much grace does He give through Mary’s intercession? Like it confused me because when I think of the Mass and receiving the Eucharist, I thought we believe that grace is directly from God. And in confession, I thought it was God who directly gives us that grace. So how far does Mary’s role as mediatrix go?

From the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

. . . she is our Mother in the order of grace

967 By her complete adherence to the Father’s will, to his Son’s redemptive work, and to every prompting of the Holy Spirit, the Virgin Mary is the Church’s model of faith and charity. Thus she is a “preeminent and . . . wholly unique member of the Church”; indeed, she is the “exemplary realization” (typus)510 of the Church.

968 Her role in relation to the Church and to all humanity goes still further. "In a wholly singular way she cooperated by her obedience, faith, hope, and burning charity in the Savior’s work of restoring supernatural life to souls. For this reason she is a mother to us in the order of grace."511

969 "This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation . . . . Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix."512

970 "Mary’s function as mother of men in no way obscures or diminishes this unique mediation of Christ, but rather shows its power. But the Blessed Virgin’s salutary influence on men . . . flows forth from the superabundance of the merits of Christ, rests on his mediation, depends entirely on it, and draws all its power from it."513 "No creature could ever be counted along with the Incarnate Word and Redeemer; but just as the priesthood of Christ is shared in various ways both by his ministers and the faithful, and as the one goodness of God is radiated in different ways among his creatures, so also the unique mediation of the Redeemer does not exclude but rather gives rise to a manifold cooperation which is but a sharing in this one source."514