Mary as Mediatrix?

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My faith is based on what the bible teaches.
Your faith is based on primarily tradition with bible truth secondary.
Don’t ask me to believe something that your tradition teaches especially if it contradicts a verse in the bible(luke1:47). To me the bible is the final authority not the church. To the Church, sacred tradition trumps the bible.
newbie 1234,

Do you really expect Catholics to believe that you have rejected traditon? You may have rejected Sacred Tradition as the Church understands and teaches it but, whether you realize it or not, you most definitely have not rejected tradition.

By rejecting Sacred Tradition what you have done, either knowingly or not, is to substitute Protestant oral traditon for it, i.e. Sola Scriptura, and your own personal version of it at that.

The Church has always taught that the Bible is infallible. It is the Word of God. The Scriptures are without any formal error. But to move from this to the claim of the Reformers is to transfer inerrancy from the Word of God to the individual reader of it, investing him with an infallibility surpassing by far that of the pope.

As is to be expected, a creed, like Sola Scriptura, made up by men in the sixteenth century eager to throw off authority, lacks the guarantees and safeguards which protect Catholics. The following article of belief announced by Martin Luther is an example:

“The earnest Protestant who goes directly to the Bible for his beliefs is brought into immediate contact with the [Holy Ghost], and can take the ideas that his reading conveys to him personally as the direct teaching of the [Holy Ghost] to himself, and the individual inquirer can . . . be sure of extracting from the Scripture text the intended meaning of its divine author.”

The flaw in the reasoning leads to the multiplicity of opinions and creeds in Protestantism, all of them “based on the Bible.”
 
newbie 1234,

Do you really expect Catholics to believe that you have rejected traditon? You may have rejected Sacred Tradition as the Church understands and teaches it but, whether you realize it or not, you most definitely have not rejected tradition.

By rejecting Sacred Tradition what you have done, either knowingly or not, is to substitute Protestant oral traditon for it, i.e. Sola Scriptura, and your own personal version of it at that.

The Church has always taught that the Bible is infallible. It is the Word of God. The Scriptures are without any formal error. But to move from this to the claim of the Reformers is to transfer inerrancy from the Word of God to the individual reader of it, investing him with an infallibility surpassing by far that of the pope.

As is to be expected, a creed, like Sola Scriptura, made up by men in the sixteenth century eager to throw off authority, lacks the guarantees and safeguards which protect Catholics. The following article of belief announced by Martin Luther is an example:

“The earnest Protestant who goes directly to the Bible for his beliefs is brought into immediate contact with the [Holy Ghost], and can take the ideas that his reading conveys to him personally as the direct teaching of the [Holy Ghost] to himself, and the individual inquirer can . . . be sure of extracting from the Scripture text the intended meaning of its divine author.”

The flaw in the reasoning leads to the multiplicity of opinions and creeds in Protestantism, all of them “based on the Bible.”
newbie 1234,

Your response please.
 
newbie 1234,

Your response please.
It doesn’t matter what Martin Luther said.
I can read 2tim3:16-17 and find that the bible can equip me to be complete for every good work. I do not need anyone to translate that for me.
Then I look at what the CC teaches from their translation.
Things such as Assumption of Mary, Immaculate conception, papacy from Peter, and a miriad of other things that are contradictory to verses in the bible or have no biblical support.
It is not my intention to debate any of these issues.
In just a few weeks on this site, I have heard many of the Catholic arguements about these issues.
I am not convinced. I am not even swayed in the least.
If you say CC tradition brought us the bible in it’s present form or language, I will accept that.
I only reject traditions that are contrary to the bible.
 
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