Mary as Mediatrix?

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I had heard of Mary on occasion being refered to as Medtrix(Sp?). I this a Doctrine or something anti-catholics made up? What does it mean and if it is something we beleive how did we get it (I heard of some other titles but, I will hold off and ask one at a time)? Thanks and God bless.
 
As usual, Catholic Answers has a good article on this here. It is currently a teaching of the church, but not a dogma. Considering the numerous false accusations brought on by other Christians, I’m not sure how far this teaching will go.
 
Thank you NotWorthy.

I found some parts of the Article a little troublesome if you could go into a little more detail.

In the Sub-Section of “Branches of the Vine” it talks about how we can “‘impart grace’ to others by our words”.

But, I feel it a tad worriesome how the article tells us that “All power flows through the Neck [Mary]”. As the Article early on tells us:
Church documents and papal writings speak clearly. The Second Vatican Council states that “the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Auxiliatrix, Adiutrix, and Mediatrix” (Lumen Gentium 62). The Council refers to Pope St. Pius X, who said that Mary is the “dispensatrix of all the gifts and is the ‘neck’ connecting the head of the mystical body to the members. But all power flows through the neck” (Ad Diem Illum 13).
Other popes and prominent saints have taught the same. In Octobri Mense Adventante, Pope Leo XIII wrote:
Nothing at all of that very great treasury of all grace that the Lord brought us—for “grace and truth came through Jesus Christ” [John 1:17]—nothing is imparted to us except through Mary, since God so wills.
In Inter Sodalicia, Pope Benedict XV told us:
Every kind of grace we receive from the treasury of the redemption is ministered as it were through the hands of the same sorrowful Virgin.
Pope Pius XI concurred in Ingravescentibus Malis:
We know that all things are imparted to us from God the greatest and best through the hands of the Mother of God.
And that these were “only a sampling of consistent papal teaching: The Church does teach that Mary is the Mediatrix of all graces.”

Could you please help me along with this? Thanks and God bless.
 
Thank you NotWorthy.

I found some parts of the Article a little troublesome if you could go into a little more detail.

In the Sub-Section of “Branches of the Vine” it talks about how we can “‘impart grace’ to others by our words”.

But, I feel it a tad worriesome how the article tells us that “All power flows through the Neck [Mary]”. As the Article early on tells us:

And that these were “only a sampling of consistent papal teaching: The Church does teach that Mary is the Mediatrix of all graces.”

Could you please help me along with this? Thanks and God bless.
OK, so even as the head makes the decision for the hand to move, Christ - the head of the Body makes the decision to bestow graces on us. As the nerves that transfer this command to move the hand passes through the spinal cord through the neck, Christs blessings flow through Mary. As the hand receives this command to move from the same nerves that passed through the neck, our graces are received through Mary, but ultimately from Christ - the head.

Consequently, when the hand receives the command and moves, it sends a message through the neck back to the brain, just as we sometimes offer up our praises and petitions to God through Mary.

Can our neck negate any of the commands of the brain? No.
Can our neck make up any commands contrary to or independent of the brain? No.
Can our neck simply pass on any and all impulses to and from the brain and the rest of the body? Yes.

How does this differ from Mary’s role as Mediatrix?

P.S. This is the Gospel of “Notworthy” (IOW - it’s my opionion). I’m not sure how doctrinally sound this analogy was. Maybe someone can help verify that.
 
She is mediatrix of grace (it’s an intercessory role). Christ is the sole Mediator of justice.
 
OK, so even as the head makes the decision for the hand to move, Christ - the head of the Body makes the decision to bestow graces on us. As the nerves that transfer this command to move the hand passes through the spinal cord through the neck, Christs blessings flow through Mary. As the hand receives this command to move from the same nerves that passed through the neck, our graces are received through Mary, but ultimately from Christ - the head.

Consequently, when the hand receives the command and moves, it sends a message through the neck back to the brain, just as we sometimes offer up our praises and petitions to God through Mary.

Can our neck negate any of the commands of the brain? No.
Can our neck make up any commands contrary to or independent of the brain? No.
Can our neck simply pass on any and all impulses to and from the brain and the rest of the body? Yes.

How does this differ from Mary’s role as Mediatrix?

P.S. This is the Gospel of “Notworthy” (IOW - it’s my opionion). I’m not sure how doctrinally sound this analogy was. Maybe someone can help verify that.
But How did she get to be the Neck? I can see how she could be to be the Mediator of some graces by prayer and so forth but, how did it come to be all graces?
 
From the Second Vatican Council:
  1. This maternity of Mary in the order of grace began with the consent which she gave in faith at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, and lasts until The eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this salvific duty, but by her constant intercession continued to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation.By her maternal charity, she cares for the brethren of her Son, who still journey on earth surrounded by dangers and cultics, until they are led into the happiness of their true home. Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked by the Church under the titles of Advocate, Auxiliatrix, Adjutrix, and Mediatrix.This, however, is to be so understood that it neither takes away from nor adds anything to the dignity and efficaciousness of Christ the one Mediator.
 
Also, you really, really need to read St. Alphonsus Liguori’s “Glories of Mary” from cover to cover. It’s also loaded with quotes and teachings from saints in east and west from the beginning until his time. It’s an awesome book! 👍
 
But How did she get to be the Neck? I can see how she could be to be the Mediator of some graces by prayer and so forth but, how did it come to be all graces?
IMO, it’s a two-fold teaching that leads us to this.

We see in the OT, how the Queen Mother’s role (the Gebira) was as an intercessory for the common man. In the New Israel, with Jesus as King, Mary is the Queen of Heaven.

At the foot of the Cross, Mary is given to the beloved disciple as his mother. As disciples of Christ, we are all that beloved disciple who is given Mary as our mother. This is reinforced in Revelation chapter 12(?) where we’re told the woman’s children are all people who follow Christ’s teachings (paraphrasing).

As our Queen Mother, Mary is constantly interceding on our behalf. As our mother, Mary is constantly looking to help us in any way possible.
 
Also, you really, really need to read St. Alphonsus Liguori’s “Glories of Mary” from cover to cover. It’s also loaded with quotes and teachings from saints in east and west from the beginning until his time. It’s an awesome book! 👍
Really?

I’ve been told by numerous non-Catholic Christians how it’s a tool of Satan. You mean they might be wrong about this?!?!?!? :).

Actually, someone gave me a book on Mary, and I haven’t looked at it yet, but I thinks it’s Liguori’s book. You’ve convinced me that I really need to move it up to the top of my “got to read” stack. Thanks!!!
 
1 John 5:16-17****

“If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should pray about that. All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death.”****

Does it seem strange to you that John is stating this? I see a fellow Christian commit a sin, but not a mortal sin, and I am to pray for that person, and God will give that person…LIFE!****

Think about that before you try to come to grips with the idea that our spiritual Mother is called Mediatrix.****

In other words, we act as little mediators for our brothers and sisters in Christ by praying for them. AND, in Colossians 1:24, we see that our sufferings can help our brothers and sisters in Christ.****

Peace,****
Jacobaer
 
The problem here is not that Mary is a mediator or that she intercedes for us. The problem is not that through her came Christ and thus all grace entered into the world. The problem here is that ALL GRACE MUST flow through Mary. This is the teaching of Mary as Mediatrix of ALL graces. Where did the early Church teach this and where in the early Church did Mary play a salvific role?
 
Mary has been known as the “porta caeli” (gate of heaven) and similar names, from the earliest times.

Logically, she is the Mother of Jesus Christ, who is God. Jesus Christ is the source of our salvation. Jesus Christ came to us, quite literally, through Mary. He used her as His gate into the world – and while He dwelt within her, her womb was Heaven.

So in the crudest, most literal sense, Mary indeed was the Gate of Heaven, and all graces came to us through her.

Of course, all of us in the Body of Christ are co-workers with grace, mediators of God’s grace to others, both through our prayers and our actions. We also know that the saints in Heaven and the angels pass on all prayers to God; we see that in a scene in Revelation. Considering that the saints are indeed Christ’s Body, it’s pretty much God reaching out His own hand – just a more elaborate, loving, inclusive way of doing so.

Mary is part of Christ’s Body, too. She doesn’t do anything He doesn’t do, and anything she does is done in Him and by His power and will. (Or do your toenails tend to run off on secret missions?)

None of this is something God needs help on; it’s the way God likes to do it, and the way God has set it up.

So, yeah, some people like to call Mary “mediatrix of all graces”. It’s a logical extension of other stuff about Mary and about the saints, but it’s not dogma or anything. If you don’t want to call Mary “mystical rose” or “tower of ivory”, that’s your choice, too.
 
So, yeah, some people like to call Mary “mediatrix of all graces”. It’s a logical extension of other stuff about Mary and about the saints, but it’s not dogma or anything. If you don’t want to call Mary “mystical rose” or “tower of ivory”, that’s your choice, too.
To be honest, it is not only “some” people or this would not be such a big deal. It is Catholics in general who believe that Mary is the Mediatrix of all graces.
 
I think the easy way to consider this question is to begin by asking another one:

Without Mary, are we saved?

Obviously, in a philisophical sense (as opposed to even a theological one), you certainly could argue that Mary is unecessary TODAY for your salvation, at this moment-- to borrow one of the sayings from my favorite bumper sticker-- “Jesus Saves.” Mary, by herself, cannot save anything-- she is, after all, only human.

But the rub comes when you think on it in the historical context of Jesus’ life as a MAN. He was born. This one act…to fulfill His (i.e., God’s) prophecy, to create the new covenant, was an absolute necessity: He was to come to us as a man. Thus, aside from the human nature of Christ, and by the natural order established by God (you are born from woman), there is only one other human actor necessary for His very human existence, and defacto, our very salvation: a woman, Mary.

This is not to elevate the person of Mary to or equate her with deity. It is rather a recognition of an indisputable fact-- theologically, historically, and biblically-- that, through God’s own plan as He outlined in the Old Testament and as He fulfilled in the New, without Mary, we are not saved, we cannot be saved and we can never be saved. At the very least (we can drop the other theological issues for the purposes of this post), without her womb, without the birth, without Jesus being fully human-- and as God chose it to be (i.e., it HAPPENED this way by God’s-- and notably Mary’s-- choice, so we may as well leave the “could have” arguments at the door)…there can be no crucifixion. Mary’s humanity, her free will, her willingness to accept God (“thy will be done”), gave us all the Gift of the Son…and the hope, though not assurance, of salvation. (sorry, had to get one dig on sola fide while I could). You could add an additional question here, one that scares me just thinking about it: what if Mary had said “no”?

We then come to your question: can Mary be Mediatrix? I add the “can” in there because that is as far as the Church has officially gone in discussing the issue. With that caveat, if, as the Catholic Church teaches, calvary occurs for eternity (importantly, not “over and over,” but all the time, in all moments, once and for all, redeeming you yesterday, today and tomorrow), He is also born for eternity. Meaning that the person of Mary…again, the only other human being that was necessary (once again, as an issue of historical fact) for the existence of Christ and the possibility of the crucifixion (as outlined above he had to be born in order to die for us)…well, in a very simple and imminently full sense (she is, after all, full of grace…not just a little, nor is she simply in possession of grace…she is FULL of grace), she can be, and perhaps even must be, the Mediatrix of all graces.

I’m ebarrassed to admit that, in writing this, I’ve actually helped myself understand this issue better. I don’t know if anyone else understands me, but I did… 😃

Thank you very much for your post.

For Him.

G.
 
IMO, it’s a two-fold teaching that leads us to this.

We see in the OT, how the Queen Mother’s role (the Gebira) was as an intercessory for the common man. In the New Israel, with Jesus as King, Mary is the Queen of Heaven.

At the foot of the Cross, Mary is given to the beloved disciple as his mother. As disciples of Christ, we are all that beloved disciple who is given Mary as our mother. This is reinforced in Revelation chapter 12(?) where we’re told the woman’s children are all people who follow Christ’s teachings (paraphrasing).

As our Queen Mother, Mary is constantly interceding on our behalf. As our mother, Mary is constantly looking to help us in any way possible.
Any prayer to Mary takes glory away from the Father.
Mary has no special powers.
She cannot answer prayers.
She cannot heal anyone.
Calling Mary Queen of Heaven: check jer 44:17(about worshipping queen of heaven)
Mary was a blessed humble servant of the Lord.
She needed a savior.
She is not a queen.
 
OK, so even as the head makes the decision for the hand to move, Christ - the head of the Body makes the decision to bestow graces on us. As the nerves that transfer this command to move the hand passes through the spinal cord through the neck, Christs blessings flow through Mary. As the hand receives this command to move from the same nerves that passed through the neck, our graces are received through Mary, but ultimately from Christ - the head.

Consequently, when the hand receives the command and moves, it sends a message through the neck back to the brain, just as we sometimes offer up our praises and petitions to God through Mary.

Can our neck negate any of the commands of the brain? No.
Can our neck make up any commands contrary to or independent of the brain? No.
Can our neck simply pass on any and all impulses to and from the brain and the rest of the body? Yes.

How does this differ from Mary’s role as Mediatrix?

P.S. This is the Gospel of “Notworthy” (IOW - it’s my opionion). I’m not sure how doctrinally sound this analogy was. Maybe someone can help verify that.
So if I am saved by grace and grace alone,I have to rely on Mary to pass that grace on to me even though it comes from God? And if Mary was out of the picture or I didn’t pray to her or something, I couldn’t get saved?
The fact is Jesus’ death on the cross gave us all access to the Holy of Holies or direct access to God the Father Almighty. Praise God. We do not need Mary for anything
 
So if I am saved by grace and grace alone,I have to rely on Mary to pass that grace on to me even though it comes from God? And if Mary was out of the picture or I didn’t pray to her or something, I couldn’t get saved?
The fact is Jesus’ death on the cross gave us all access to the Holy of Holies or direct access to God the Father Almighty. Praise God. We do not need Mary for anything
No. We have direct access to God like we have direct access to water in our homes. That water needs pipes to travel through to get to us, and we need those same pipes to carry the used water away from us. God’s grace is the water, Mary the pipes. The pipes aren’t the water, and the water isn’t the pipes, but we need 'em both in our homes.

Most people rarely if ever think or need to think about their plumbing at all, but we’d certianly notice it if those pipes weren’t there to bring our water to us! Likewise Jesus came to us through Mary. Not because he needed to, but because he chose to. Now is Christ or is he not the very embodiment of ALL God’s graces, even those we receive today? If that is the case, and if she brought HIM to us, then she ALSO brought all those graces he embodies to us too :yup:
 
No Mary No Christ

Know Mary Know Christ
This is false. I can have all the knowledge of Mary there is, But if I don’t have the saving knowledge of Christ on the cross, I will end up in perdition.
 
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