Mary Bashing......(HELP)

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ScottH:
Heh heh… and you sure do use 'em, Lisa! Blessings to you all.

How are you all doing today?
😃 We are doing good!Are you going to be nice?:tsktsk: 😉 Oh in case you haven’t noticed I am a smiley enthusiast:eek:
 
Yes Lisa, I’ll do my best to be nice. Again, I ask your forgiveness for my tone late last night. I was the only protestant at the “fort”, and a bit stressed due to the content and the late hour.

Do you guys know the background of the website you posted on?
 
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ScottH:
Yes Lisa, I’ll do my best to be nice. Again, I ask your forgiveness for my tone late last night. I was the only protestant at the “fort”, and a bit stressed due to the content and the late hour.

Do you guys know the background of the website you posted on?
No,I don’t.but I am glad your here because you are attempting to find out what we really believe and why,that sir is honorable and just:thumbsup:
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Hello,Scott if you are still here we have a private message feature here in case you have any questions or just want to talk.There is a wealth of information,warning this forum is addictive:D
 
Lisa4Cat…That is the website of a Pittsburgh PA pastor/talk show host named Marty Minto. (He’s not Catholic… and adheres to sola scriptura- and I should tell you all that I do too.)

He was fired from his job from Word FM in Pittsburgh- a Christian radio station with protestant leanings. They’ll say he was unkind to Catholic callers- and yes, he was a bit opinionated and didn’t always act like a representative of Christ. I realize you folks may be okay with someone who does share your beliefs and criticizes you, and in this sense I don’t fault you. However, he was also fired because of debating inter-Protestant problems as well, namely offending churches like the 6th Presbyterian Church of Pittsburgh- who belongs to the “More Light Presbyterians” (www.mlp.org) which is an organization seeking the legitimization of gay relations within the denomination, as well as the ordination of ministers. He got in trouble last year for informing Pittsburgh (via his talk show) about the 6th Presby organzing “Gay Pride Day” at PNC park last year. It turns out- the 6th Presbyterian church represents some people with money to the WORD FM station in Pittsburgh.

He was allegedly fired for comments related to the Pope though. I heard his broadcast- and a caller called in to ask the ridiculous “Is the Pope in Heaven” question. Marty said “Except a man be born again. Was he? We don’t know his heart, or anyone’s heart for that matter.”

I would have answered that much differently, but I don’t think it merits a firing- by a Protestant station, no less.

The station fired him, then called the Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese to tell them about his firing. The Diocese responded by being puzzled by the phone call and said “…but we never complained about him?” So, to many it seems that they used the excuse of his hardness against Roman Catholics as his reason for being fired, but in reality- it has more to do with his comments about the degrading spiritual condition of some of Pittsburgh’s Protestant Churches who have “gone worldly” with pro-gay, pro-abortion sentiment. They represent the money that was offended by Marty. I think the station conveniently used the sentiment of some Catholic listeners to create a good excuse to axe Marty (who was very popular). However, the truth is that Word is a Protestant station, and it was the local protestant churches he offended. They (the station.) just didn’t want to spin it that way, lest they bite the hand that feeds. That’s my read on it anyway.

The station has now gone “safe” talk. You’ll never hear any criticism of local Protestant OR Catholic churches on their talk radio slot (3 to 6pm EST) again. Its now like listening to Vacation Bible School on the radio.

So tensions are a bit high on that site due to the firing, and how many felt about him.
 
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godsent:
Howdy scotty!🙂 👍
Greetings Godsent.

Lisa- I always liked this site. I don’t agree with a very small portion of it theologically, but I think its a well-done site with an active forum.
 
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ScottH:
Lisa4Cat…That is the website of a Pittsburgh PA pastor/talk show host named Marty Minto. (He’s not Catholic… and adheres to sola scriptura- and I should tell you all that I do too.)

He was fired from his job from Word FM in Pittsburgh- a Christian radio station with protestant leanings. They’ll say he was unkind to Catholic callers- and yes, he was a bit opinionated and didn’t always act like a representative of Christ. I realize you folks may be okay with someone who does share your beliefs and criticizes you, and in this sense I don’t fault you. However, he was also fired because of debating inter-Protestant problems as well, namely offending churches like the 6th Presbyterian Church of Pittsburgh- who belongs to the “More Light Presbyterians” (www.mlp.org) which is an organization seeking the legitimization of gay relations within the denomination, as well as the ordination of ministers. He got in trouble last year for informing Pittsburgh (via his talk show) about the 6th Presby organzing “Gay Pride Day” at PNC park last year. It turns out- the 6th Presbyterian church represents some people with money to the WORD FM station in Pittsburgh.

He was allegedly fired for comments related to the Pope though. I heard his broadcast- and a caller called in to ask the ridiculous “Is the Pope in Heaven” question. Marty said “Except a man be born again. Was he? We don’t know his heart, or anyone’s heart for that matter.”

I would have answered that much differently, but I don’t think it merits a firing- by a Protestant station, no less.

The station fired him, then called the Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese to tell them about his firing. The Diocese responded by being puzzled by the phone call and said “…but we never complained about him?” So, to many it seems that they used the excuse of his hardness against Roman Catholics as his reason for being fired, but in reality- it has more to do with his comments about the degrading spiritual condition of some of Pittsburgh’s Protestant Churches who have “gone worldly” with pro-gay, pro-abortion sentiment. They represent the money that was offended by Marty. I think the station conveniently used the sentiment of some Catholic listeners to create a good excuse to axe Marty (who was very popular). However, the truth is that Word is a Protestant station, and it was the local protestant churches he offended. They (the station.) just didn’t want to spin it that way, lest they bite the hand that feeds. That’s my read on it anyway.

The station has now gone “safe” talk. You’ll never hear any criticism of local Protestant OR Catholic churches on their talk radio slot (3 to 6pm EST) again. Its now like listening to Vacation Bible School on the radio.

So tensions are a bit high on that site due to the firing, and how many felt about him.
Are you serious?They FIRED him for preaching the truth about the “gay lifestyle”!He got canned for telling the truth:tsktsk: Our late Pope and current Pope has been slammed for teaching the very same thing and are labled hate mongers:mad:By the extremist.
 
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ScottH:
Greetings Godsent.

Lisa- I always liked this site. I don’t agree with a very small portion of it theologically, but I think its a well-done site with an active forum.
I am glad you are in here and not just lurking,by being here you lessen animosity and misunderstanding and we can rejoice in our Love for Christ,the word who became flesh:)
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
Are you serious?They FIRED him for preaching the truth about the “gay lifestyle”!He got canned for telling the truth:tsktsk: Our late Pope and current Pope has been slammed for teaching the very same thing and are labled hate mongers:mad:By the extremist.
Yes they did.
In truth, they are partly right though- he could have been much kinder to Catholic Christians. But that was merely an excuse for his firing. The real reason is that he criticized many local denominations who have fallen into a state of regrettable spiritual decay. He was a very argumentative man, perhaps too much so at times- I’ll admit. But WORD FM is a mostly Protestant station (No Catholic focused programming). They wouldn’t have fired him for angering a few Catholics about Mary or talking about the Pope’s position.

No- he bit the local Protestant hands that feed the station $$$$. Many of whom have fallen into moral relativism- and ANYTHING but the gospel of life that your Pope John Paul II advocated. (Marty was a BIG helper in the fight to save Terri, and a HUGE pro-life advocate.)

He often used scripture against the local Protestant churches for their practices (and Catholic too, for that matter.) It’s the first part that got him fired.
 
Welcome Scott, nice to see you here. Since we invaded your forum and all! :o God Bless!
 
Hello scott,
I am one of the invaders, although my guest post didn’t seem to stay on the thread I posted it to.

Happy to talk about underpass virgin mary look alikes.
How come you see activity as idol-latria?

I haven’t seen the reasoning yet, so I didn’t jump into the fray.
 
Welcome, Scott. Leave sarcasm at the door. I am sorry that Marty was fired because he preached against active homosexuality. It does seem as though committed Christians are persecuted today for just telling the truth.

I am still going to urge you to read the Catechism. You can find it on the Vatican website. I am re-reading now, just for myself and for a way to strengthen my daily life. I doubt you will find anything there that goes against your belief in the Holy Scripture, since all of Catholicism is based on the Holy Scripture.

Welcome.
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
I don’t know but the scotth guy os getting mean:nope: Some of the responses that he gives are writing a novel in my sentence:eek: If he says somethis about gold Mary Statues,again:whacky:
Yep. I finally had to call the guy stupid. But it worked he realized that he was out of line. I did respect his request and will not post there anymore. I get the feeling that he can’t take the onslaught from us Catholics. But I do think we got him thinking. I hope!!! I will pray for him…

Peace be with you all…
 
Scott,

With all due respect, in my opinion, Marty was fired for his lack of charity toward Catholics. I listened to that program often–even called in a few times. I heard him insinuate that Catholics were Mary worshipers, that the Eucharist was cannibalism, that the church fathers were irrelevent, etc, etc, etc. He was extremely anti-Catholic, and he could not hide it. He constantly twisted Scripture interpretation to refute Catholicism. I will admit though, he did adhere to some absolute truths such as anti-abortion and no gay marriages. He also probably did offend some liberal and relativistic protestant denominations. But I do believe, when it all was said and done, it was his constant anti-Catholic rhetoric that led to his demise.
 
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ScottH:
Greetings dbrown. That’s not the case at all. (At least for me). It seems your mail verification system doesnt get through to gmail. So, I used an alternate address and it worked.
Welcome. I’m glad your here. Forgive me about my stupid comment please.
 
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dbrown:
Welcome. I’m glad your here. Forgive me about my stupid comment please.
Don’t sweat it. You are forgiven. I help teach creation apologetics (non-denominational). So I’ve been called FAR worse… usually with stunning regularity. 😉
 
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Mickey:
Scott,

With all due respect, in my opinion, Marty was fired for his lack of charity toward Catholics. I listened to that program often–even called in a few times. I heard him insinuate that Catholics were Mary worshipers, that the Eucharist was cannibalism, that the church fathers were irrelevent, etc, etc, etc. He was extremely anti-Catholic, and he could not hide it. He constantly twisted Scripture interpretation to refute Catholicism. I will admit though, he did adhere to some absolute truths such as anti-abortion and no gay marriages. He also probably did offend some liberal and relativistic protestant denominations. But I do believe, when it all was said and done, it was his constant anti-Catholic rhetoric that led to his demise.
I think it was a case of all of the above. His producer was a Catholic, and his immediate boss was a huge fan of Rick Warren’s “Purpose Driven Life” (Which Marty called "Milk & Cookies Christianity).

And Rick Warren’s publisher advertised the book sometimes in commercials during his show.

Plus- tons of local protestant denominations (6th Presby being the biggest) wanted him gone. Of course- that is the same church that had a member of the Jesus Seminar (the member who says Jesus’ body was taken by dogs) during Easter services one year- and a “guest” transexual minister for July 4th’s Sunday services last year.

Marty annoyed, yet did some good too.

Lots of people didn’t like him. He was a very “polarizing” figure. I was annoyed by him at times too. I just wouldn’t have fired him, personally.
 
I have never heard of him before - is he a kind of “Michael Savage” only Protestant Christian?

I know a lot of times people in that industry are going for 'lively and controversial" but sometimes I turn off talk radio because all the yelling gives me a headache:o .
 
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ScottH:
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Marty annoyed, yet did some good too.

Lots of people didn’t like him. He was a very “polarizing” figure. I was annoyed by him at times too. I just wouldn’t have fired him, personally.
I guess we may never know what happened behind the scenes. I can’t say whether he deserved to be fired or not. I just know that I became awful disturbed sometimes after listening to what I felt were gross misrepresentations of the Catholic Church. It seemed that he would often represent the stereotypes of the Church as the truth. Interestingly enough, if you do a search with his name, many of the people coming to his defense, are the professional vitriolic anti-Catholics whom we all know, but I will not state their names because it angers the moderators on this forum. Most of the members here know who they are. That sort of tells you where he stands in regards to the Catholic Church.
 
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