Mary Did You Know???

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Hello Everyone,

It has been almost a day now since the recent Sunday Mass, and I still cannot get my ears feeling clean after hearing what I was subjected to.

Our new music director, who apparently believes that “Sing A New Church” is the international anthem of the Catholic Church, this time put us through ----

Wait for it! -------

“Mary Did You Know?”

(Shudder!)

Now if you all will excuse me, I am going to try and wash again with holy water and then join the Society of St. Pius X 😉
 
No, don’t do that! We have all had to sit through stuff like that. That is our call to martyrdom (i.e. “witness”). Don’t you realise that is what you are being called to do?

At the time of Martin Luther there were many abuses. Some left the Church because of them, others stayed and fought for a true Reformation, and today we revere them as Saints.
 
Hello Eileen,

Don’t worry, I was kidding about the SSPX part (that is why I added a winking smiley face to the end).

I do agree with you, though, that is part of our martyrdom for the faith. Just the pure Protestantism of the song, plus the music director’s obsession with “Sing A New Church,” seriously makes me want to stand up and shout “Nooooooooooooooo!” right in the middle of church!
 
Some day I’m going to make my church sing Sing A New Church just because of the absurdity of the title (I’ve never even looked at the song itself). It’s as silly as Sing a New Song.

“Please join singing our gathering song, Sing a New Church.”

[faceplant]
 
Oh, my. I was also subjected to “Mary, Did You Know” on Sunday. 😦

I think the tune is lovely. I think the song is useful for getting NCCs to think about Mary.

But, start to end, it is contrary to Catholic teaching and should **not **be used in the Mass!

Goodness, I typed that so hard that my desk shook!

Praying for an increase in charity,

Ruthie
 
What about that song that begins “There is Nothing Told About this Woman, but that…” and then proceeds to tell everything that was told about this woman. Just think that we exchanged “Hail Queen of Heaven” and “O Sanctissima” for the likes of this drivel!
 
We didn’t get “Mary Did You Know?” but were instead subjected to “Hail Mary/Gentle Woman.” Which, actually…I kinda like that song, I sing it sometimes while doing housework. Not so great for Mass though, IMO.
 
Ok, I’m not following this.

Why does everyone not like this song?

Here are the lyrics, and they seem to pretty much fit in line with Catholic teaching:

Mary, did you know
That your baby boy will one day walk on water?
Did you know
That your baby boy will save our sons and daughters?
Did you know
That your baby boy has come to make you new?
This child that youve delivered
Will soon deliver you
Mary, did you know
That your baby boy will give sight to a blind man?
Did you know
That your baby boy will calm a storm with his hand?
Did you know
That your baby boy has walked where angels trod?
And when you kiss your little boy
Youve kissed the face of god

Mary, did you know?
The blind will see
The deaf will hear
And the dead will live again
The lame will leap
The dumb will speak
The praises of the lamb

Mary, did you know
That your baby boy is lord of all creation?
Did you know
That your baby boy will one day rules the nations?
Did you know
That your baby boy is heavens perfect lamb?
This sleeping child youre holding
Is the great I am

I’m guessing that the supposed to be orange verses are the ones that are inapproprate (sp.) for Mass?
 
The song goes against the Church’s teachings on the Blessed Mother. Just because a song has a pretty melody, that doesn’t make it appropriate for the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, especially when it contradicts what we believe about the Blessed Mother.

The song was written by a Protestant from Liberty University, the school founded by the late Jerry Fallwell. It pretty much denies the Immaculate Conception and Mary’s divine maternity.

Early this year, I started a thread, which has since been locked, on the song.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=208953&highlight=Mary+did+You+know

Every possible argument for and against this song was raised. I don’t think we need to rehash it anymore.
 
Benedictine said:
Hello Everyone,

It has been almost a day now since the recent Sunday Mass, and I still cannot get my ears feeling clean after hearing what I was subjected to.

Our new music director, who apparently believes that “Sing A New Church” is the international anthem of the Catholic Church, this time put us through ----

Wait for it! -------

“Mary Did You Know?”

(Shudder!)

Now if you all will excuse me, I am going to try and wash again with holy water and then join the Society of St. Pius X 😉
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I love to hate bad music just as much as the rest of you!
I found the lyrics for the song Mary Did You Know? and I see nothing offensive or against Catholic teaching.

Jesus was 100% God and 100% Man. As God, Christ is omniscient.
Mary is 100% woman. She is not God. She was not omniscient.

I think it’s a very reverent song that puts those of of who are willing, right at the scene of the incarnation where God came in the flesh.

While she said “Yes” and spoke the words of the Magnificat,
I don’t see anything contradictory in the song.

Please give us a reason other than, “I don’t like it,” unless that is all you got. It’s okay not to like it.

(I admit when it first came out, I didn’t like it either. It was just to “earthy.” Then again, God became flesh in a barn.

Mary did you know that your baby boy
will one day walk on water?
Mary did you know that your baby boy
will save our sons and daughters?
Did you know that your baby boy has come to make you new?
This child that you’ve delivered, will soon deliver you.

Mary did you know that your baby boy
will give sight to a blind man?
Mary did you know that your baby boy
will calm a storm with his hand?
Did you know that your baby boy
has walked where angels trod?
And when you kiss your little baby,
you have kissed the face of God.

The blind will see, the deaf will hear and the dead will live again.
The lame will leap, the dumb will speak, the praises of the lamb.

Mary did you know that your baby boy is Lord of all creation?
Mary did you know that your baby boy will one day rule the nations?
Did you know that your baby boy is heaven’s perfect Lamb?
This sleeping child you’re holding is the great I am.

The Magnificat
Luke 1:46 And Mary said, “My soul magnifies the Lord, 47* and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, 48 for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; 49 for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name. 50 And his mercy is on those who fear him from generation to generation. 51 He has shown strength with his arm, he has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts, 52 he has put down the mighty from their thrones, and exalted those of low degree; 53 he has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent empty away. 54 He has helped his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy, 55* as he spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to his posterity for ever.” *
 
The statements about Christ are true.

The one sentence about Christ “will soon deliver you” may imply that Mary wasn’t without sin. It would be more accurate to say “has delivered you”.

The problem I think that many people have is the poetic use of “did you know”. Yes, of course she knew, Gabriel told her, etc.

However, as I read somewhere in another thread, one person may say to another mother “Do you know how cute your baby is?” Of course she does, its an expression in order to communicate a compliment. This is music and lyrics…in the form of art, in which it brings different forms of language and expressing ideas. Even the “ask the apologist” thread said that it can be interpreted in different ways.

It probably is not wise to use at Mass because it could be confusing, and not singable. Personally, I think its a bit cheesy and trite, However, I hardly think the absolute disdain some people have isn’t called for either. (Such as joking about joining a schism).

I’ll bet most people that post on these threads are the Sensate type.
 
graceandglory said:
I love to hate bad music just as much as the rest of you!
I found the lyrics for the song Mary Did You Know? and I see nothing offensive or against Catholic teaching.

Jesus was 100% God and 100% Man. As God, Christ is omniscient.
Mary is 100% woman. She is not God. She was not omniscient.

I think it’s a very reverent song that puts those of of who are willing, right at the scene of the incarnation where God came in the flesh.

While she said “Yes” and spoke the words of the Magnificat,
I don’t see anything contradictory in the song.

Please give us a reason other than, “I don’t like it,” unless that is all you got. It’s okay not to like it.

(I admit when it first came out, I didn’t like it either. It was just to “earthy.” Then again, God became flesh in a barn.

Mary did you know that your baby boy
will one day walk on water?
Mary did you know that your baby boy
will save our sons and daughters?
Did you know that your baby boy has come to make you new?
This child that you’ve delivered, will soon deliver you.

Mary did you know that your baby boy
will give sight to a blind man?
Mary did you know that your baby boy
will calm a storm with his hand?
Did you know that your baby boy
has walked where angels trod?
And when you kiss your little baby,
you have kissed the face of God.

The blind will see, the deaf will hear and the dead will live again.
The lame will leap, the dumb will speak, the praises of the lamb.

Mary did you know that your baby boy is Lord of all creation?
Mary did you know that your baby boy will one day rule the nations?
Did you know that your baby boy is heaven’s perfect Lamb?
This sleeping child you’re holding is the great I am.

The Magnificat
Luke 1:46 And Mary said, “My soul magnifies the Lord, 47* and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, 48 for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; 49 for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name. 50 And his mercy is on those who fear him from generation to generation. 51 He has shown strength with his arm, he has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts, 52 he has put down the mighty from their thrones, and exalted those of low degree; 53 he has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent empty away. 54 He has helped his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy, 55* as he spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to his posterity for ever.” *
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The song was written by a Protestant who does not accept, let alone understand, the Catholic teachings regarding the Blessed Mother. Mary knew that the child she was carrying in her womb was the Son of God. St. Gabriel, as we heard in this past Sunday’s Gospel, told her. Furthermore, the song disputes Mary’s Immaculate Conception. Mary was preserved from sin from the moment of her conception because the merits of her Divine Son were applied to her soul beforehand. God needed to create a pure dwelling for His Son. He needed to create the perfect Tabernalce, the new Ark that would be His place of rest.

To compare this song to the Magnificat would be, in my opinion, a misunderstanding of the Church’s teachings on the Blessed Mother and to belittle the important role that she played in salvation history.
 
Theologians have debated and continue to debate when Jesus came to the realization of his mission here on earth. If there was the possibility of him having come to this realization, could there not also be the more likely possibility of Mary not coming to see the full significance of his incarnation and mission?

Sorry, but I don’t see anything here that is contrary to Catholic teaching. 🤷

If the song helps bring people closer to the Almighty, in whatever way, shape or form, I see no problem with it. IMHO, it would better be sung by a choir as an anthom during mass than as a singalong hymn, though.
 
Newbie2 said:
Theologians have debated and continue to debate when Jesus came to the realization of his mission here on earth. If there was the possibility of him having come to this realization, could there not also be the more likely possibility of Mary not coming to see the full significance of his incarnation and mission?

Sorry, but I don’t see anything here that is contrary to Catholic teaching. 🤷

If the song helps bring people closer to the Almighty, in whatever way, shape or form, I see no problem with it. IMHO, it would better be sung by a choir as an anthom during mass than as a singalong hymn, though.
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The song has no place in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass because it contains lyrics that are contrary to the teachings of the Church. The fact that a Protestant wrote it further makes the point, as Protestants do not believe what the Church teaches about Mary.

Mary knew that the child she was carrying, of her own free will, was the Son of God. St. Gabriel told her as much. She agreed to this awesome responsibility, conforming her will to that of God’s. Furthermore, Mary knew full well about her Son. If she did not, why would she have asked Jesus to do something when the wine ran out during the wedding at Cana? Why would she have insructed the waiters to “do whatever He tells you”?

In my opinion,those who do not have a problem with this song may not fully understand the Church’s teaching on Mary. Pretty music doesn’t make a piece suitable for use in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, especially if the lyrics are 180-degrees to the opposite of what the Church teaches.

Furthermore, those “theologians” who have doubts that Jesus knew what His mission was are the same ones who panned the Holy Father’s book, “Jesus of Nazareth.”
 
All hail the martyrs! Jeesh, I think some of you need to go out and feed some poor homeless people instead of sitting around and complaining about your parish. Find something positive to do with your spare time.
benedictgal said:
I don’t think we need to rehash it anymore.
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Good idea, to bad you can’t take your own advice!:banghead:

P.S. Merry Christmas!
 
ac_claire said:
I’ll re-post benedictgal’s thread from last year about this song. We pretty much exhausted the subject back then. Mary, Did You Know?
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Thanks. The reason why I posted responses is that there seems to be a misunderstanding about how this song contradicts basic Marian doctrine in the worst way. A seeminly innocous song winds up being a vehicle for causing confusion, as evidenced, in my opinion, by those who support this song.
 
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