@Telestia,
First of all, Thanx for accepting my apology. Sometimes meaning can be lost on written messages because we have no benefit of watching demeanor, hearing voice, tone, catching nuance etc. It can appear that someone is on the attack when they are really not. Plus, I confess that splashing a lot of !!!s and
s in such media is unwise and doesn’t really help.
Secondly, I’d like to correct you on the motive you suppose for my responses to you. While I love Our Lady entirely and place complete confidence in her, my responses are actually not about safeguarding or defending her, but about Our Lord himself! And our faith. If you look at my responses carefully, they’re all about Our Lord’s nature, not Mary’s.
Thirdly, you say we are human through possessing “human genes”- But what is “human”? You forget that this material is called human because it is possessed by all humans and is common to them- no human gets this material from a non-human source or from the blue! Each of us has material that we got from pre-existing members of the species, and the ultimate source of all of that genetic substance that defines the species Human, is a common ancestor that the scriptures give the name- Adam, a name that literally means mankind! This genetic material is the blueprint or what defines this original man’s biology, and it’s the same nature that his descendants get- A cat does not give birth to puppies or cubs. It’s because we posses this man’s nature that we form an identical species with him- We are mankind- literally Adam!
Fourthly, you speak of God appearing in Human form in OT. However, the scriptures never tell us that God literally took on a physical/material body, but only of appearances witnessed by the men of the times. The only time that the scriptures tell us unambiguously that God did so is at the incarnation of our Lord, the Word became flesh.
Fifthly, the example of the sperm signifying an alien truly misses it, because the underlying reason for calling our Lord’s bodily nature alien as per your theory, was not that you suggested that it happened in an odd/strange/non-natural way…It was that the nature itself of the body, as per that theory, would be alien! Not the manner in which it has come about.
Eve herself had only one source for her humanity, Adam, she is
Adam-kind, not her own special/separate kind- but
Adam-kind/mankind. There’s no
“Eve-kind”, or anything of such sort. Why? Precisely for the reason that God did not create her by a separate act of creation- something God could easily have done if he so willed. But When God made Adam, he meant to make exactly
one kind of being. Adam saw Eve and recognized her as “Adam-kind” of his own nature-
Now here is Flesh of my flesh, bone of my bone- You don’t think he meant,
she kinda looks like me? No, my friend- He meant, she is of
my very own flesh,
my exact nature, we are
one kind-
one species. If this unity of being did not matter, what would be the point of human procreation? Why did God have us come into being by this one way only? Why not Just make Eve completely “fresh” as he had made Adam? Why put Adam to sleep and literally take from him, in order to fashion the second member of Adam’s species, and then command them to be fruitful? Why not create each of us afresh as he did Adam? Come on now, really really think about all this- What would be the point if not to hand down the one nature of humanity to all Adam’s ancestors? What do we really give to our children if not our nature?
Saying that Christ was the only one who actually was not of “Adam-kind” as explained above, that he is of his own kind, and the only member of this new kind, a new being, that cannot call himself in any way the son of Adam, or even “man” which means Adam- A parallel human-like species next to the one species of mankind! This is truly radical and novel- And contradicts scripture, that calls Christ
man,
the son of man,
the 2nd Adam, and tells us that Our Lady conceived him in her womb. Christ may not have had a biological father, and that’s why his conception is not only of divine mystery (incarnation) alone but a bonafide miracle as well, but he most certainly had a biological mother who gave him the humanity that she herself got from her ancestors, who got it from Adam. So, Jesus was not a new act of creation by God apart from his one act of making Adam with all his proper nature, rather he was a
participation by God in that
one family, species, for love alone, in order to redeem it.
I am assuming you are referring to: …all have sinned and fall short of the glory…" to suggest that Jesus is the only sinless human being?
How can that be possible. I guess FULL is not FULL anymore:shrug:
Shoot, the Rangers just hit a home run to win the game. :crying: LOL…