Mary

[eucharist04]

I was wondering something. Could have the early church missed God when it comes to the doctrines of Mary? Jesus warns His disciples not to let anyone to decieve them Matt. 24:4. If it is not possible for them to be decieved, then Jesus would have never given them this warning.

 

[Trishie]

To say that the church was misled is to deny the truth of the promise of Jesus to Peter and to the Church.

Jesus said to Peter the first pope or papa,
"I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven."
Matthew 16:18-19

**Jesus promised the apostles of His new Church that the Holy Spirit would lead them to the truth. **

“When the Advocate comes, whom I shall send you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who issues from the Father, He will be my witness. And you too will be my witnesses.” [John 15: 26-27] “When He comes, He will show the world how wrong it was, about sin…and about judgement” and “about who was in the right: proved by my going to the Father…proved by the prince of this world already being condemned.”

Jesus promised, “I still have many things to say to you but they would be too much for you now. But when the Spirit comes He will lead you to the complete truth…All He tells you will be taken from what is mine.” “You will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you, and then you will be my witnesses not only in Jerusalem but indeed…to the ends of the earth.” [John 16:8-9, 12-13, 15]

Before His ascension, Jesus said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore, make disciples of all the nations; baptise them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teach them to observe all the commands I gave you. **And know that I am with you always, yes even to the end of time.” ** [Matthew 28:17-20]

 

[Trishie]

Jesus loves and values Mary.
Perhaps this love that Jesus has for Mary may help you to feel more comfortable about her place in the Church.

At the Wedding feast of Cana, Mary pointed out to Jesus that the hosts of the wedding feast were running out of wine. It wasn’t a matter of life or death, but certainly one of losing face, embaressment fot the family. Jesus at first protested at the notion of helping in this. He reminded His mother that it was not yet time for Him to begin His public mission.'My time has not yet come." Mary, woman of faith, simply told the servant to do whatever Jesus told them to…and he worked the miracle of changing water into wine anyway, ahead of planned time for public miracles, just because his mother asked Him to. ( John 1:1-12)

One of the last things Jesus did as He hung in agony on the cross, was to provide a carer and a home for His mother. “When Jesus then saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold, your son!” And from that moment the disciple made a place for her in his home” ( John 19:26-27)

God bless you…Trishie

 

[Good_Fella]

I was wondering something. Could have the early church missed God when it comes to the doctrines of Mary? Jesus warns His disciples not to let anyone to decieve them Matt. 24:4. If it is not possible for them to be decieved, then Jesus would have never given them this warning.

*Jesus said to them in reply, “See that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Messiah’, and they will deceive many.” *
Matthew 24, 4-5

I believe our Lord is referring to the founders of schools of thought in humanistic philosophy and scientism who have deceived many theologians and clerics in the Church and are responsible for engendering the great apostasy that is taking shape. The Vatican condemned the Liberation Theology movement in Latin America, for instance, for it leaned on the fundamental principles of Marxism.

PAX :harp:

 

[Randy_Carson]

I was wondering something. Could have the early church missed God when it comes to the doctrines of Mary? Jesus warns His disciples not to let anyone to decieve them Matt. 24:4. If it is not possible for them to be decieved, then Jesus would have never given them this warning.

On Honoring Mary as Imitators of Christ

Jesus was a good Jew who obeyed the Law of Moses perfectly, and a key component of the Law is known as the Ten Commandments. The first commandment that deals with our relationships with others states, “Honor your Father and Mother.”

As a dutiful Jewish son who obeyed the law perfectly, Jesus fulfilled this commandment by honoring His Mother. The Hebrew word for “honor” actually means “glorify”. So, Jesus bestows glory on his mother, Mary.

At the annunciation, the angel of the Lord called Mary “full of grace”. Through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, the Word of God declares that “from now on all generations will call [Mary] blessed”. Consequently, we honor Jesus’ mother in our own generation.

The Catholic Church was not the first to honor and glorify Mary - Jesus was. We simply obey the word of God which calls us to “be imitators of God, therefore, as dearly beloved children.” (Ephesians 5:1)

 

[1ke]

I was wondering something. Could have the early church missed God when it comes to the doctrines of Mary?

No.

Jesus warns His disciples not to let anyone to decieve them Matt. 24:4. If it is not possible for them to be decieved, then Jesus would have never given them this warning.

It is not possible for the Church to be deceived. It is possible for individual people to be deceived.