Mary

[Randy_Carson]

Deception would hardly be very convincing without a little truth mixed in.

I feel the same way about Protestantism.

You’ve definitely identified the crux of the matter. :tiphat:

 

[LilyM]

And God would never say this "Sacrifice yourselves for sinners and say often whenever you make a sacrifice: ‘O Jesus, it is for love of You, for the conversion of sinners, and in reparation for the offenses committed against the Immaculate Heart of Mary.’ " (Our Lady—July 13, 1917).

Notice what comes first - the offering FOR LOVE OF JESUS. He always has primacy, as is right.

Don’t you love your biological mother? Don’t you do things for love of her? Does that mean you’re worshipping her instead of Jesus? No.

There’s no conflict between your love of your own mother and your love of Christ. Neither is there any conflict between our love of Mary and our love of Christ - who surely loves her more than we will ever be able to!

You sure about that quote? Is the Mormon your brother?

A separated brother, an erring, mistaken brother, as we all err and make mistakes, not a demon!

The Holy Spirit lifts up Jesus, only.

The Holy Spirit lifts us all up you goose - Enoch and Elijah to name but two examples in the Old Testament.

And it was the Holy Spirit who inspired Jesus to say to his followers ‘you shall do all that I do - AND GREATER WORKS than these’.

Now you think he’d deny those same followers, his own mother being the chiefest of them, a share in his glory?

 

[Pax]

Could you explain to me what Gospel the “vision” is preaching?

You might read my post #14 over…I think that might be helpful. Likewise, remember the last words in scripture spoken by the mother of Jesus. John 2:5 says, "His mother said to the servants, ’ Do whatever he tells you.’ "

Put that together with the last paragraph of my post #14 and you will know what Gospel the “vision” is preaching.

I hope this helps.

Now, try answering my point about whether or not you have the ability to read the hearts and minds of millions of people. If you do not then please explain the reasoning behind the remark you made.

Thanks and may the Lord’s peace be with you.