Mary's and the serpent

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I have a question about Mary’s role. It seems to me that many pious Catholics have the idea that Mary will in the end crush the head of the serpent. I just wonder where in the Church’s teaching that is found? In the Bible it says that the womans ofspring will “bruise your head” and I am sure the Catholic Church believes that Jesus is the one who deals and dealt with the Serpent once and for all when HE died on the cross.
What is then goin on with this saying?
Hope to get some clarification on this
Amber
 
I have a question about Mary’s role. It seems to me that many pious Catholics have the idea that Mary will in the end crush the head of the serpent. I just wonder where in the Church’s teaching that is found? In the Bible it says that the womans ofspring will “bruise your head” and I am sure the Catholic Church believes that Jesus is the one who deals and dealt with the Serpent once and for all when HE died on the cross.
What is then goin on with this saying?
Hope to get some clarification on this
Amber
New American Bible footnote on Genesis 3:15

[15] He will strike . . . at his heel: since the antecedent for he and his is the collective noun offspring, i.e., all the descendants of the woman, a more exact rendering of the sacred writer’s words would be, “They will strike . . . at their heels.” However, later theology saw in this passage more than unending hostility between snakes and men. The serpent was regarded as the devil (⇒ Wisdom 2:24; ⇒ John 8:44; ⇒ Rev 12:9; ⇒ 20:2), whose eventual defeat seems implied in the contrast between head and heel. Because “the Son of God appeared that he might destroy the works of the devil” (⇒ 1 John 3:8), the passage can be understood as the first promise of a Redeemer for fallen mankind. The woman’s offspring then is primarily Jesus Christ.

Source: vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__P5.HTM

The Catechism of the Catholic Church

410 After his fall, man was not abandoned by God. On the contrary, God calls him and in a mysterious way heralds the coming victory over evil and his restoration from his fall. This passage in Genesis is called the Protoevangelium (“first gospel”): the first announcement of the Messiah and Redeemer, of a battle between the serpent and the Woman, and of the final victory of a descendant of hers.

411 The Christian tradition sees in this passage an announcement of the “New Adam” who, because he “became obedient unto death, even death on a cross”, makes amends superabundantly for the disobedience, of Adam. Furthermore many Fathers and Doctors of the Church have seen the woman announced in the “Proto-evangelium” as Mary, the mother of Christ, the “new Eve”. Mary benefited first of all and uniquely from Christ’s victory over sin: she was preserved from all stain of original sin and by a special grace of God committed no sin of any kind during her whole earthly life.
 
…thanks but I know all that…
I still wonder then why people say that it is Mary who will crush the head of the serpent when to my knowledge Christians believe that Jesus has done it already, He began and He finishes. Right?
Amber
 
…thanks but I know all that…
I still wonder then why people say that it is Mary who will crush the head of the serpent when to my knowledge Christians believe that Jesus has done it already, He began and He finishes. Right?
Amber
From my understanding there appears to be a theological debate over the issue, and hyperbole in spiritual writings don’t help. Some theologians believe Jesus will come to crush the head of the serpent, while others believe Mary will crush the head of the serpent. Pope John Paul II said in his book On Threshold of Hope that Jesus will be victorious over evil through Mary, just as through her He came into the world and gives graces to all souls. And this would seem to reconcile the two different views on the issue too.
 
Where this comes from is the translation of the Latin Vulgate which is the official Bible of the Catholic Church for over 1500 years. A english translation of the Vulgate is read as follows:

Gen 3:14-15: And the Lord God said to the serpent: “Because you have done this, you are cursed among all living things, even the wild beasts of the earth. Upon your breast shall you travel, and the ground shall you eat, all the days of your life. I will put enmities between you and the woman, between your offspring and her offspring. She will crush your head, and you will lie in wait for her heel.” CPDV

Modern translations use “he” or “it”.
 
Thank you Pax. For the weblink. That certainly clarified things. I hope new editions og the Vulgata change this translation mistake since it is of course right to translate correctly from the Hebrew Text and also to protect the faithful from false beliefs about Mary’s role. Through being the mother at the cross she certainly atoned but there is only One that crushes the head of the serpent: Jesus Christ.
 


Through being the mother at the cross she certainly atoned but there is only One that crushes the head of the serpent: Jesus Christ.
Well…yes and no. Check this out:

Romans 16:19-20
For while your obedience is known to all, so that I rejoice over you, I would have you wise as to what is good and guileless as to what is evil; then the God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

God gives us a part in the victory.
 
Dear Pax
Thank you for bringing that Scripture passage to my attention.
Certainly I know that we work WITH God through His grace but obviously He is the one who really does the work, who begins it, ends it and who alone brings about the victory. We have no merit but we only do as we are told to do. And through that and accepting that HE has done it All we have a part in his Victory and inheritance.
I know we human beings are powerful. We can cause other people to be lost or saved, but we can do nothing besides from Him. I believe that includes even the biggest saints.
In Christ:)
Amber
 
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