Masonic Conspiracy Theory

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What? :confused:

The antisemitism aspect is a diversion. It’s deception. There is no connection between Jewish people and Masonic-satanism, and those who try to merge these things are doing so injustly.

Thou shall not bear false witness against his neighbor.
Exactly just because anti-semites mix truth with lies does not discredit the authentic catholic position.
I love semites.
Freemasonry is luciferian.at core
 
I am simply being honest and polite in this forum. I am attempting to have a serious debate on the merits. Buy my Catholic Friends call me “ignorant” and my lodge “putrid.” Because of the passions inspired by religious debate, from simple insults all the way to executions, Freemasonry’s main point is respect for others views and treating all men with respect and in fact, seeing them as brothers. I am Catholic and I believe this.

The Catholic Church once controlled the world. This is not really possible due to our human nature so as such, the Church maintained control by any means necessary. This at best was to deny access to bibles, at worst it included torture, beheading,and execution. The church believed (as Leo XII so eloquently elaborates below) that it had the Divine right to rule over all people.

In this forum Humanum Genus has been referenced a number of times. Since Leo XIII seems to be the favorite here, I decided to post what he actually said. Below are exerpts:

In those matters which regard religion let it be seen how the sect of the Freemasons acts, especially where it is more free to act without restraint, and then let any one judge whether in fact it does not wish to carry out the policy of the naturalists. By a long and persevering labor, they endeavor to bring about this result - namely, that the teaching office and authority of the Church may become of no account in the civil State; and for this same reason they declare to the people and contend that Church and State ought to be altogether disunited. By this means they reject from the laws and from the commonwealth the wholesome influence of the Catholic religion; and they consequently imagine that States ought to be constituted without any regard for the laws and precepts of the Church.

another:

Then come their doctrines of politics, in which the naturalists lay down that all men have the same right, and are in every respect of equal and like condition; that each one is naturally free; that no one has the right to command another; that it is an act of violence to require men to obey any authority other than that which is obtained from themselves. According to this, therefore, all things belong to the free people; power is held by the command or permission of the people, so that, when the popular will changes, rulers may lawfully be deposed and the source of all rights and civil duties is either in the multitude or in the governing authority when this is constituted according to the latest doctrines. It is held also that the State should be without God; that in the various forms of religion there is no reason why one should have precedence of another; and that they are all to occupy the same place.

I won’t even argue the point that he classifies freemasons as “naturalists” even though it is a lie. There is a much more salient point to be made.

This is a Pope making a last gasp to maintain his power. He was the first Pope to not also be a King. This encyclical is a condemnation not only of freemasonry but of freedom of religion. It is interesting that some of the same words of the American Constitution are characterized as evil. It is a lament or even a reminiscence of what was and a deep seated fear of what is or is about to be.

None of us can deny that due to Freedom of Religion the world is in a better place. I only have to worry about being insulted on a Catholic Answers forum, not having my arms tied behind my back and being lifted up by my wrists until my arms come out of my sockets or I “confess.”

Does anyone believe that we would be better off with a Catholic Theocracy again?

God Bless,

R
 
I am simply being honest and polite in this forum. I am attempting to have a serious debate on the merits. Buy my Catholic Friends call me “ignorant” and my lodge “putrid.” Because of the passions inspired by religious debate, from simple insults all the way to executions, Freemasonry’s main point is respect for others views and treating all men with respect and in fact, seeing them as brothers. I am Catholic and I believe this.

The Catholic Church once controlled the world. This is not really possible due to our human nature so as such, the Church maintained control by any means necessary. This at best was to deny access to bibles, at worst it included torture, beheading,and execution. The church believed (as Leo XII so eloquently elaborates below) that it had the Divine right to rule over all people.

In this forum Humanum Genus has been referenced a number of times. Since Leo XIII seems to be the favorite here, I decided to post what he actually said. Below are exerpts:

In those matters which regard religion let it be seen how the sect of the Freemasons acts, especially where it is more free to act without restraint, and then let any one judge whether in fact it does not wish to carry out the policy of the naturalists. By a long and persevering labor, they endeavor to bring about this result - namely, that the teaching office and authority of the Church may become of no account in the civil State; and for this same reason they declare to the people and contend that Church and State ought to be altogether disunited. By this means they reject from the laws and from the commonwealth the wholesome influence of the Catholic religion; and they consequently imagine that States ought to be constituted without any regard for the laws and precepts of the Church.

another:

Then come their doctrines of politics, in which the naturalists lay down that all men have the same right, and are in every respect of equal and like condition; that each one is naturally free; that no one has the right to command another; that it is an act of violence to require men to obey any authority other than that which is obtained from themselves. According to this, therefore, all things belong to the free people; power is held by the command or permission of the people, so that, when the popular will changes, rulers may lawfully be deposed and the source of all rights and civil duties is either in the multitude or in the governing authority when this is constituted according to the latest doctrines. It is held also that the State should be without God; that in the various forms of religion there is no reason why one should have precedence of another; and that they are all to occupy the same place.

I won’t even argue the point that he classifies freemasons as “naturalists” even though it is a lie. There is a much more salient point to be made.

This is a Pope making a last gasp to maintain his power. He was the first Pope to not also be a King. This encyclical is a condemnation not only of freemasonry but of freedom of religion. It is interesting that some of the same words of the American Constitution are characterized as evil. It is a lament or even a reminiscence of what was and a deep seated fear of what is or is about to be.

None of us can deny that due to Freedom of Religion the world is in a better place. I only have to worry about being insulted on a Catholic Answers forum, not having my arms tied behind my back and being lifted up by my wrists until my arms come out of my sockets or I “confess.”

Does anyone believe that we would be better off with a Catholic Theocracy again?

God Bless,

R
Nice Masonic, anti-Catholic/Papal, rhetoric. :rolleyes:
Even though your profile claims you are Catholic. 🤷

"…the roots of modern apostasy lay in scientific atheism, dialectical materialism, rationalism, illuminism,
laicism, and Freemasonry; which is the mother of them all…" (Pope Pius XII, May 23, 1958 A.D.)
 
“The Church’s negative position on Masonic associations therefore remains unaltered, since their principles have always been regarded as irreconcilable with the Church’s doctrine. Hence joining them remains prohibited by the Church.** Catholics enrolled in Masonic associations are involved in serious sin and may not approach Holy Communion.**
Local ecclesiastical authorities do not have the faculty to pronounce a judgment on the nature of Masonic associations which might include a diminution of the above-mentioned judgment, in accordance with the intention of this congregation’s declaration delivered on February 17, 1981 (cf. AAS 73 [1981], pp. 240-241).
The Supreme Pontiff John Paul II approved this declaration, deliberated at an ordinary meeting of this sacred congregation, and ordered it to become part of public law.”

Rome. From the office of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, November 26, 1983.

Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger
Prefect

Jerome Hamer, O.P.
Archbishop of Loria
Secretary

Declaration on Masonic Associations

Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith
November 26, 1983

newadvent.org/library/docs_df83ma.htm

C.
 
“Let us remember that Christianity and Freemasonry are essentially incompatible, to such an extent, that to become united with one means being divorced from the other. Let us, therefore, expose Freemasonry as the enemy of God, of the Church and of our Motherland.” (December 8, 1892, Pope Leo XIII)
 
"The Sovereign Pontiff with his paternal benevolence has accepted the homage of your new study on ‘La guerre Maconnique’ (The Masonic War).

"It is with unerring judgment that in the work which you have undertaken, you have endeavored to project light, by means of documentation and irrefutable proofs, upon the inept and essentially anti-Catholic doctrine of Freemasonry, a doctrine issued from deism born of the Reformation, a doctrine which, as it is today clearly evident, leads fatally to the very denial of God, to social atheism, to irreligious teaching and impiety and is greatly detrimental to nations; it aims at removing from every association every trace of religion and every church mediation.

"Above all, in spite of all lies which oftentimes deceive the Catholics themselves, you have carefully and most particularly clearly shown the identity of Freemasonry evident everywhere and always, and the continuity of the plans set by the Sects and whose master design is the destruction of the Catholic Church.

(From His Eminence Cardinal Gasparri (State Secretary of His Holiness) to Monseigneur Jouin on June 20, 1919.)
 
“It is not the Church who first raised the standard, she did so only because war had been declared against her. For the last 25 years she has only had to bear the struggle. Such is the Truth. Declarations, a thousand times published and republished in the Press, in congresses, in Masonic conventions, in the very halls of Parliament, are proof in themselves that attacks against the Church have been led progressively and systematically. Such facts cannot be denied and against them mere words cannot prevail . . .” (From letter of Pope Pius X to France, January 6, 1907.)

“We all but too well know the dens of darkness wherein those pernicious doctrines are elaborated . . . Clear minds should not be seduced by them.” (From letter of Pius X to the French Episcopate August 25, 1910.)
 
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