Masons

[gh4]

Aside from a few small charities, freemasonry is a worthless waste of people’s time.

St. Jude’s hospital is a small charity in your eyes?
The Cincinnati Burn Hospital is a small charity?

The Shriners have 22 hospitals for children all over the USA. The children who are treated in these hospitals are treated free of charge. These charities are a HUGE deal in my eyes.
Te be a Shriner, one must first be a Master Mason.

 

[thistle]

St. Jude’s hospital is a small charity in your eyes?
The Cincinnati Burn Hospital is a small charity?

The Shriners have 22 hospitals for children all over the USA. The children who are treated in these hospitals are treated free of charge. These charities are a HUGE deal in my eyes.
Te be a Shriner, one must first be a Master Mason.

The bottom line is that Freemasonry’s mission is to destroy the Catholic Church, and it is totally incompatible with Catholicism. Pope Benedict XVI, while Cardinal Ratzinger as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith publicly declared that any Catholic who is a Freemason is in a state of mortal sin and may not receive Communion.

It makes me smile when people try to defend the Freemasons by talking about the good things they do for people. How can anyone be so naive.
The drug cartels do good deeds like building schools and hospitals for the poor. The purpose is to deceive and manipulate people into supporting and defending them. This is exactly the same as the Freemasons.

 

[TEPO]

St. Jude’s hospital is a small charity in your eyes?
The Cincinnati Burn Hospital is a small charity?

The Shriners have 22 hospitals for children all over the USA. The children who are treated in these hospitals are treated free of charge. These charities are a HUGE deal in my eyes.
Te be a Shriner, one must first be a Master Mason.

The Holy Roman Catholic Church has 611 hospitals compared to the measly 22 that the “Shriners” constantly brag about. Catholic Charities helps more people in need than any other charity…

Now tell me, what good are the masons really? What have they done for the greater good of mankind aside from a few small charities… Oh yeah I forgot, George Washington was a mason. They’ve done NOTHING…!!!

 

[TEPO]

on a global scale, the Church does an even better job of caring for those in need -more than most Catholics are aware of.

" According to a press release, the Church has “117,000 health care facilities, including hospitals, clinics, orphanages,” as well as “18,000 pharmacies and 512 centers” for the care of those with leprosy."

catholicnewsagency.com/news/catholic_hospitals_represent_26_percent_of_worlds_health_facilities_reports_pontifical_council/

 

[JimR-OCDS]

The History channel has had a number of programs on masons and also seems to provide a fair explanation of their origins. The history and affiliations of the masons has been checkered throughout history - especially here in the States during the 20th century. But membership seems to be fading in contrast to the KC which grows in strength.

I have also heard it said (I’m a 26 yr KC member) that the KC initiation is very similar to the master masons degrees - has anyone else heard this ???

The History Channel has a reputation for being inaccurate when it comes to Church history, and in fact, they are often hostile toward the Church.

I prefer to get books on the history by reputable historians

Jim

 

[JimR-OCDS]

lewrockwell.com/mcmaken/mcmaken58.html
credo.stormloader.com/Reviews/poweglor.htm
amazon.com/Triumph-Catholic-Church-000-Year-History/dp/0761529241

It certainly appears to be an interesting read and if the origins of the masons are from the confessions obtained through the torture of templars, I think it would help people to better understand the history of the templars, which could lead to a better understanding of the history of the crusades and time period as a whole…I don’t know, maybe its just me but it always seems like the crusades are painted as a one sided act of aggression or as some form of european Colonialism trying to install theocratic rule, it’s like people forget what led up to the crusades or the formation of catholic military orders like the templars to begin with…anyway, it certainly would be interesting to find out more about the origins of this mason organization especially since the church prohibits membership.

Not the origins of the Masons, but some of their rites come from the documents found, which were obtain through the torture of Knights Templar.

Some of their other rites, come from other pagan sources.

Jim

 

[JimR-OCDS]

St. Jude’s hospital is a small charity in your eyes?
The Cincinnati Burn Hospital is a small charity?

The Shriners have 22 hospitals for children all over the USA. The children who are treated in these hospitals are treated free of charge. These charities are a HUGE deal in my eyes.
Te be a Shriner, one must first be a Master Mason.

Uh, people are not treated free of charge at Shriner,s hospitals. It goes according to income.

A guy tried to get us help with my son’s cerebral palsy needs through Shriner s. The application form inquired all of your income, savings accounts and assets.

I didn’t qualify.

Jim

 

[gh4]

Uh, people are not treated free of charge at Shriner,s hospitals. It goes according to income.

A guy tried to get us help with my son’s cerebral palsy needs through Shriner s. The application form inquired all of your income, savings accounts and assets.

I didn’t qualify.

Jim

Yes, I’m sure you are correct. I’m sorry. I guess the people I knew had no money as their child was treated at the burn hospital for free. But hey, the local hospital doesn’t do that. The Catholic hospital doesn’t do that. As a nurse who had lousy insurance all her working life, I paid off many hospital bills 25$ a week until they were paid in full.

 

[drfye]

Not the origins of the Masons, but some of their **rites **come from the documents found, which were obtain through the torture of Knights Templar.

Some of their other rites, come from other pagan sources.

Jim

rites? they have different rites?

when you say rites do you mean the different chapters in different countries but with the same practices and rituals or do you mean similar to catholic rites where the organization is the same but in different areas there are different traditions upheld because of the culture of that particular area/diocese?

 

[drfye]

Just one of those things where we have to be discerning in the show sand what they contain. Agree a lot of their shows are lacking, but the older recycled ones still are interesting.

Peace

Oh, actually I just realized , your in the US, Our history channels are a little different to each other. you have the " history channel ’ we have “history television” which is suppose to have more programms on canadian history and perspective but we still get a lot of the same shows including the ones that are not really history based…swamp people, ancient aliens, Ice road truckers. Hahaha, don’t get me wrong these shows seem fine but on a channel thats suppose to be based on history:shrug:…

history.com/
history.ca/

 

[JimR-OCDS]

rites? they have different rites?

when you say rites do you mean the different chapters in different countries but with the same practices and rituals or do you mean similar to catholic rites where the organization is the same but in different areas there are different traditions upheld because of the culture of that particular area/diocese?

Well, the one rite I’m aware of, because by brother-in-law is a Mason and his father was the highest level of Mason, when I attended his funeral, they did a rite called the Tree Ceremony, for the dead.

I understand that this comes from Egyptian paganism, but I’m not sure.

Jim

 

[drfye]

Well, the one rite I’m aware of, because by brother-in-law is a Mason and his father was the highest level of Mason, when I attended his funeral, they did a rite called the Tree Ceremony, for the dead.

I understand that this comes from Egyptian paganism, but I’m not sure.

Jim

interesting, but I wonder if that is a tradition that is particular to the chapter that your brother-in-law’s father belonged to or if that is a universal mason tradition that all mason chapters implement all over the world or in particular countries?