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I’m struggling a lot right now trying to comprehend some things in faith right now. I’m a Catholic and I go to Mass every week. A few months ago a friend invited me along to her church which is non-denominational. I tagged along just for the sake of tagging along. I went to Saturday Mass to fulfill my weekly obligation as well. Anyhow, my dad, a Baptist who has been away from the church for about 30 years decided to check this church out. He loved it and has been going ever since. I have been tagging along with him after first having gone to Mass (either Saturday or early Sunday morning). My mom, became curious as to why my dad was suddenly going to church again. She tagged along with us this morning after going with me to Mass. She loved it there. I’m almost frightened that she’s going to try and switch churches. If she does, I’ll be the only Catholic in my household. She says she is a Catholic but she used to miss Mass for months at a time and she doesn’t believe in confession. Well, I firmly believe in going to mass every Sunday. I, well, a question that popped into my mind is, is it a sin to miss mass or to miss church period? For example, if someone who is a Catholic goes to Mass but one weekend ends up going to a church where it isn’t Mass… I guess what I’m trying to ask is why must if be Mass we attend, why can’t it be a church service where we worship God? Some people say it doesn’t matter where you go to church as long as you’re praying and worshiping the Lord. They don’t get why it has to be mass and not just service. I have been asked this question by a friend and I found I didn’t have a clear answer. Could you please help? Thank you!!!
 
There are many good, prayerful, Christ-loving people and beautiful, emotional services in non-Catholic churches, but there is something that none of them have: the Holy Eucharist. Episcopalians/Anglicans and most Lutherans have bread and wine at their services and even believe that Jesus enters into those elements, but they don’t have a validly-ordained priesthood for the sacrament to be valid, so it remains bread and wine. Baptists and most other Protestant denominations regard Communion as completely symbolic, having only spiritual value. The Holy Eucharist is the epicenter of Christian faith and worship, and you have the opportunity to receive Jesus’ literal Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity every Sunday (every day, in fact), but only in a Catholic Church.

Just a note that the Sacraments of the Orthodox Churches are valid, but those Churches are not in complete union with the Catholic Church, the original Church founded by Jesus on the Rock of Peter.
 
The obligation is to assist at Mass, not merely to attend a church.
 
I’m struggling a lot right now trying to comprehend some things in faith right now. I’m a Catholic and I go to Mass every week. A few months ago a friend invited me along to her church which is non-denominational. I tagged along just for the sake of tagging along. I went to Saturday Mass to fulfill my weekly obligation as well. Anyhow, my dad, a Baptist who has been away from the church for about 30 years decided to check this church out. He loved it and has been going ever since. I have been tagging along with him after first having gone to Mass (either Saturday or early Sunday morning). My mom, became curious as to why my dad was suddenly going to church again. She tagged along with us this morning after going with me to Mass. She loved it there. I’m almost frightened that she’s going to try and switch churches. If she does, I’ll be the only Catholic in my household. She says she is a Catholic but she used to miss Mass for months at a time and she doesn’t believe in confession. Well, I firmly believe in going to mass every Sunday. I, well, a question that popped into my mind is, is it a sin to miss mass or to miss church period? For example, if someone who is a Catholic goes to Mass but one weekend ends up going to a church where it isn’t Mass… I guess what I’m trying to ask is why must if be Mass we attend, why can’t it be a church service where we worship God? Some people say it doesn’t matter where you go to church as long as you’re praying and worshiping the Lord. They don’t get why it has to be mass and not just service. I have been asked this question by a friend and I found I didn’t have a clear answer. Could you please help? Thank you!!!
It is not recommended for the Catholic to go to other churches at all. As a Catholic, you are required to attend the Catholic church which offers the Eucharist, body and blood of Christ. Other Churches not in union with the Catholic church do not have that at all. so if your listening to people who are saying off the cuff “well is doesn’t matter as long as you go to Church” are wrong and don’t know what they are talking about. I am not sure how old you are but if you can drive yourself , take yourself to the Catholic church and stop attending this one. It may be lively and fun and exciting but in the long run, you will end up confused about the Catholic Church and it’s teachings, plus you will not be receiving Christ in the Eucharist which is the source and summit of our faith. I am not sure what to say about your mom but make sure for yourself that you keep Catholic and keep going to Mass.
 
The obligation is to assist at Mass, not merely to attend a church.
Is the obligation actually “to assist” or by this do you mean to participate in the universal prayer of the Church?

I understand that while we are free to worship with Christians, our “obligation” is to the Catholic Church.
 
Is the obligation actually “to assist” or by this do you mean to participate in the universal prayer of the Church?
Assist is an old word that means to attend. You needn’t be serving the Mass or reading or anything like that in order to fulfill the obligation.

-ACEGC
 
Assist is an old word that means to attend. You needn’t be serving the Mass or reading or anything like that in order to fulfill the obligation.

-ACEGC
Thanks for the clarification.

My wife and I both serve at Mass and I can say doing so only amplifies the experience.
 
I hold strong in my faith. I go to Mass every week. I do not skip to go with my dad. I occasionally tag along. My obligation is not to his church. At this church they do not speak against the Catholic faith nor do they directly praise it. It’s teachings are centered on God alone, on His Holy Word. God has actually used a few sermons there to guide me down the right path in my life as well. I can’t see how this could be ruinous. Is it truly bad to attend another church’s service on top of Mass? God has worked through people at both places in my life. I mean…I guess I don’t see how it could be so bad… Please don’t yell at me, or go “you don’t truly believe! You don’t understand your faith!!” I’m still growing. Isn’t everyone? I just need a little help along the way.
 
It matters where you go. It’s a sin to miss mass, and it is not a good idea to attend other denominations, except for, say, a wedding or funeral.

As Catholics, we believe we have “the fullness of truth”. The Catholic Church has all 7 sacraments.

Further, we are in full keeping with scripture. For example, some demoninations do not have any communion of any kind! We are keeping Christ’s** command.**…“Do this in memory of me!” Some believe this is symbolic, at most. Yet, there is another part of the Bible which says if you eat Christ’s body and drink his blood, unworthily, you are drinking a cup of condemnation. biblehub.com/1_corinthians/11-29.htm

Yet, if it’s at most, “symbolic”, how could you condemn yourself for it? Also, Christ assured us his body was “REAL” (his wording, not mine), that those who did not receive it would have **NO **life within them! Yet, many ignore this command, don’t receive at all, or even if they do, do not believe any of this is “real”.

Further, we obey the descendents of Peter. After the resurrection, Christ said that he had ALL authority on heaven and earth. Before Christ ascended, one of the last things he did was to give authority to Peter. Christ said he was giving Peter the keys to the kingdom, that what he held bound on earth would be bound in heaven! What he loosed on earth would be loosed in heaven! Christ said to Peter, and him alone, to shepherd his flock (3 times!). He called Peter, the “rock” on which he was going to build his Church.

Further, when we reject Peter, or any of the Church’s representatives, we are rejecting Christ, himself! Peter, held an office. Then, authority was given to the next descendent of Peter. Christ was the church’s leader. In his absence, he gave authority to Peter, who in turn gave authority to others.

Now, many denominations have replaced these representatives with whomever they wanted, really, saying it makes no difference who officiates or what is believed.

A lot of other denominations believe in individual interpretations of scripture. Last time I checked, we had some 28,000 kinds of Christianity! Each has its own leader, beliefs, rules, and they are not all the same. Each has split from the Church, is in “schism”.

Some believe that Jesus is God. Some don’t even believe that!

I think some people are “happy” at church if it’s got a strong means of socializing and modern music. However, maybe there are other, more important considerations, like…what’s actually true!
 
So you’re basically telling me to get the heck out of that place and stay far away? Kind of? That’s what it sounds like I think, right? Also, something you mentioned there is kind of frightening me. A bit of Scripture that had slipped my mind… the part of not having life within you if you do not participate in the Eucharist… Does that mean that only Catholics can truly ever have the life of Christ in them? What happens to those who aren’t? I have dear friends who aren’t and after reading that, I feel worried for them. What happens to those who don’t recieve the Eucharist? Will their spiritual life die? I’m sorry for asking so many questions. I’m just worried now.
 
reread John 6 because that is what the Catholic Church teaches and you are demonstating why it isn’t a good idea for a Catholic to attend on a regular basis other non-catholic churches because you will be taught otherwise. I would suggest you make an appointment with the priest and discuse these issues with him.
 
Quite honestly, I’ve heard the whole “it doesn’t matter where you go” and stuff like that from people who claim to be Catholic and from folks at school and other places. It is not a lie specifically originating from the church my dad goes to.
And I re-read John 6. Basically, if you do not recieve the Eucharist then you have no life and such. What will happen to those who don’t?! Will they end up condemmned? I mean, surely you don’t mean… Please, for the love of all that which is good don’t tell me it means they will be condemned!! Should all but Catholics end up separated from God for eternity because of it? I’m scared for many I know now!! What of my dad?! What of my dearest friend!? I’m scared for them now!!
 
Your first priority is to attend Catholic Mass every Sunday/Saturday evening.

Your mother should too, but worry about yourself first. Your father is not Catholic, so he may attend the non-denominational service if he wishes. You may visit the other church occasionally during special events if invited by your friend or father, but attending mass should be your first priority.
 
Quite honestly, I’ve heard the whole “it doesn’t matter where you go” and stuff like that from people who claim to be Catholic and from folks at school and other places. It is not a lie specifically originating from the church my dad goes to.
And I re-read John 6. Basically, if you do not recieve the Eucharist then you have no life and such. What will happen to those who don’t?! Will they end up condemmned? I mean, surely you don’t mean… Please, for the love of all that which is good don’t tell me it means they will be condemned!! Should all but Catholics end up separated from God for eternity because of it? I’m scared for many I know now!! What of my dad?! What of my dearest friend!? I’m scared for them now!!
I know…scary stuff. I’m also sorry if you thought I was one who yelled at you. I sometimes get a little wound up, but I can only assure you, I mean you no harm.

Also, try to calm down. The saints have told us it does not good to panic. They have told us to do all we can…pray, lead good lives, live by good example.

Then, they all…Christ included, told us we must not worry. Christ asked us what possible good worry would do. He said we couldn’t change one hair by doing it, so he recommended against it.

I know the feeling, though. I have a HUGE family, and I have a ton of people in my family who have left for all kinds of denominations. I don’t know how they expect to get to heaven without the sacraments.

Equally though, I worry about those who are Catholic, as well. My worries are not limited to the non-Catholics.

HOWEVER, equally, we are told God can also be merciful! So, when you do pray for your family, there are many prayers to use. One is called, “Divine Mercy”. Also, pray for their conversion.

I think one of the best ways to work on this is to pray frequently for your family and you go to a Catholic Church, even if nobody else is.

Now, didn’t you say your mother was “Catholic”? Well, can you get your hands on a copy of the “Catechism of the Catholic Church”? If it is true she’s Catholic, go to the points where she differs from the faith. Read her what the Catechism says. If she cares, she will begin to consider this.

Tell her what the catechism says on…confession, say…on church attendance.

There are only 5 commandments of the Church. One is to attend weekly and Holy Days of Obligation. Another is to go to confession at least once a year. Another is to receive communion at least once a year, during Easter.

As Catholics, we are to believe in all of this, not say…well…I am “Catholic” but don’t believe…x…y…and z. You can’t be a good Catholic and do that, though I know some people, mistakenly, think you can.
 
Thank you so much clearwater. I didn’t mean you were yelling at me. It’s just sometimes when I ask questions I feel like people accuse me of being sinful in doubting Church teaching and such. It hurts when people do that. You talked about God’s mercy and the chaplet of Divine Mercy. If it isn’t too much to ask, the next time you pray it, would you keep my family in mind and my dearest friend Nicholas. Especially Nicholas. He is the closest friend in the Lord that I have. He loves the Lord more than anyone I know and the very thought of him not going to Heaven because he never had the sacraments… that thought hurts more than all the torment I suffered my whole life. Without him, I never would have gotten to this point in my faith. If it weren’t for the long crazy story of our broken and healed friendship, I would not be here today in faith. I would still be lost in the darkest reaches of the world. He is also the one God placed in my life as a partner in ministry. I can’t bear the thought of him not having God. And my family, dear God, my family, please, if you will, pray for them. My mom lost her way and my dad loves the Lord and finally got back to church but he’s baptist. I can’t even stand to think of them eternally separated from God. It brings too much pain. Please pray for them.
 
😉 It’s okay. I already know I can accidentally hurt someone if I’m not careful, just wanted to make sure I wasn’t doing that. Online, you can’t hear someone’s voice. So, if I put an exclamation point, you have no real way of knowing if I’m angry…or just passionate about the topic!

You know what? I’m going to pray a Chaplet of Divine Mercy now and include your prayer intentions in it.

ewtn.com/devotionals/mercy/dmmap.htm

Also, look on the right hand of your screen…on “Let’s empty purgatory”…it tells ways how to do just that! There are a LOT of things we can do. 🙂 And, they can also answer questions you might have.

God bless!

:gopray:
 
You know “asistir” in Spanish means “attend”.
Yep. And that “attend” comes from an old word, also in Latin, that means “to listen.” Typically in Spanish you use “escuchar,” but “atender” can mean listen too. You see it in Latin in the hymn Atende Domine, which we sing during Lent, based on Psalm 51.

-ACEGC
 
Quite honestly, I’ve heard the whole “it doesn’t matter where you go” and stuff like that from people who claim to be Catholic!
We have to be VERY careful what we believe. I know that a lot of faiths, even some Catholics have been saying it “doesn’t matter” where you go. They are mistaken. They couldn’t be more wrong.

Well, I know of at least one faith that says to people, “if you just say this one prayer” that they came up with, “once saved always saved”. That is not only wrong, but downright dangerous!

The Bible says that we need to “persist to the end”. Nowhere in the Bible is that prayer.
It says again and again that you can have salvation and then lose it.

Further, a lot of denominations have at least 5 beliefs we, Catholics, believe are wrong. Was it Martin Luther who came up with these?

We call them the 5 “Solas”.

Sola Scriptura (Scriptura alone)
Sola Fide (Faith alone)
Sola Gracia (Grace alone)
Solo Christo (Christ alone)
Solo Deo Gloria (Glory to God alone)

Did you realize there are FIVE solas? (sola means …only). So, some say …ONLY through faith…or ONLY through grace…or ONLY through scripture, etc. First of all, how can we have FIVE onlys? I thought you could have only one “only”.

One website which debunks all five is: catholicbible101.com/thefivesolas.htm .

Well, we are told ALL these ways help us reach God…through scripture, through faith, through Christ AND there are yet more ways, which we can prove, using the Bible, itself, as evidence.

Now, we Catholics, think faith is good, but do we believe faith is the ONLY way to God? No. We believe grace is, likewise, good, but is it the ONLY way to God? Again, no. We believe in scripture, but again, is it the ONLY way to God? No…because you can get to God through faith…through grace, but these are not the ONLY ways.

Have you ever studied logic? I’m not perfectly logical all the time, myself, but as you can see, it almost seems to be a problem with logic.

I’m trying to think of an adequate analogy.

Logic will teach you true forms of logic versus false forms

One true form of logic would say, “If the statement…all cars are blue WERE true, then would it be true that my car would also be blue would be true?” The answer would be, “yes”.

However, Martin Luther seemed to do what I think is called inductive reasoning…taking one specific and trying to generalize.

It’s be like saying…“My car is blue…therefore…ALL cars are blue!” While it can be possible that my car is blue, it doesn’t necessarily follow that ALL cars are blue.

Now, another issue I have with some other denominations is how from Martin Luther on that the Bible, itself, was modified. Specifically, Martin Luther removed 7 BOOKS of the Bible! By whose authority did he do that?

I don’t believe it was by divine authority.

We used to have 73 books of the Bible. After Martin Luther, we only had 66. Further, look at the symbolism of it. 7 has been used throughout the Bible to mean…completeness…perfection. Three has been used to symbolize a lot of good things. Six has been associated with incompleteness and worse.

Now, for me, some Bibles have the antichrist’s signature all over them! 66 books as opposed to 73?

We had people who had their own churches, such as Henry VIII! He had his own church rather than accept the scriptural passage that we are not to divorce our spouses! He pretty much tried to make up his own rules. He not only got into divorce, and encouraged others to do the same, but killed his wives! Yet, people follow his “church” to this day!

We’ve had some martyrs who stood up to him rather than compromise! One of them was St. Thomas Moore. He preferred to be thrown in the tower and eventually beheaded rather than compromise one iota on divorce.

Now, I’ve noticed that some Catholics even leave the Church when they want to, say, divorce. Many prefer to seek another denomination that will tell them divorce is “okay” rather than accept Christ’s own’s words!

Why? The Catholic faith is HARD. It’s easier to just give in.

So, I’ve seen people who will look around to find churches to go along with whatever they want! For example, do you realize there are churches who will tell you it’s okay to be gay, lesbian, transgender, and bisexual?

These churches make up their own rules as they go along, telling us whatever we want to hear rather than the truth!

So again, it matters where you attend church. Some have teaching which go AGAINST what Christ taught! Some teach that divorce is okay! Some teach that homosexuality is fine!

I tried a bunch of churches before I came to the truth. I went to the Unitarian Fellowship. Later, I once saw them put up a sign which said. “LGBT…get over it!” This is a CHURCH contradicting Christ!
 
From the Directory on Ecumenism (at vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/general-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_19930325_directory_en.html )

“115. Since the celebration of the Eucharist on the Lord’s Day is the foundation and centre of the whole liturgical year, Catholics—but those of Eastern Churches according to their own Law—are obliged to attend Mass on that day and on days of precept. It is not advisable therefore to organize ecumenical services on Sundays, and it must be remembered that even when Catholics participate in ecumenical services or in services of other Churches and ecclesial Communities, the obligation of participating at Mass on these days remains.”

Youth Catechism of the Catholic Church has:

“365 How do Christians make Sunday “the Lord’s day”?
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A Catholic Christian attends Holy Mass on Sunday or on the vigil of Sunday.** … One is exempted from it only by urgent family duties and important responsibilities in society. Because participation in the Sunday Eucharist is fundamental for a Christian life, the Church explicitly declares that it is a serious sin to stay away from Sunday Mass without good reason.”

(From YOUCAT, published by Ignatius Press, published in Australia by Freedom Publishing, 2011, ISBN 9781586175160 , page 201.)

More on the Sunday Obligation is in the Code of Canon Law, canons 1244-1248, at vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/_P4M.HTM and vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/_P4N.HTM .

The Catechism of the Catholic Church is similar:

"The Sunday obligation
2180 The precept of the Church specifies the law of the Lord more precisely: "On Sundays and other holy days of obligation the faithful are bound to participate in the Mass."117 "The precept of participating in the Mass is satisfied by assistance at a Mass which is celebrated anywhere in a Catholic rite either on the holy day or on the evening of the preceding day."118
2181 The Sunday Eucharist is the foundation and confirmation of all Christian practice. For this reason the faithful are obliged to participate in the Eucharist on days of obligation, unless excused for a serious reason (for example, illness, the care of infants) or dispensed by their own pastor.119 Those who deliberately fail in this obligation commit a grave sin.
2182 Participation in the communal celebration of the Sunday Eucharist is a testimony of belonging and of being faithful to Christ and to his Church. The faithful give witness by this to their communion in faith and charity. Together they testify to God’s holiness and their hope of salvation. They strengthen one another under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
2183 "If because of lack of a sacred minister or for other grave cause participation in the celebration of the Eucharist is impossible, it is specially recommended that the faithful take part in the Liturgy of the Word if it is celebrated in the parish church or in another sacred place according to the prescriptions of the diocesan bishop, or engage in prayer for an appropriate amount of time personally or in a family or, as occasion offers, in groups of families.“120”
 
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