The mass is generally the same though posture after the Agnus Dei may be different - in some places they remain standing.
I know that it hurts that was always in Latin, but I think with it being in a persons native tongue it allows us to defend our faith better. Yes, ppl will get offended and hurt about it, but it was a good thing that it did change.
We still do that in English or Spanish or Portuguese or German or French. The worship of god is still the same. Yes, you say the faith was successfully defended but how many of those individuals who were catholic really knew the faith. They went to church, confessed, received holy communion, yes they were involved, but how many like today were able to defend their faith from Protestants.
How many people today can defend the Faith purely from attending Mass? How many people today even believe the Eucharist is the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ? (less than 1/3, btw). How do you account for the vast increase in conversions away from the Church by Catholics into Protestant communities after the language change? If Catholics are so much more equipped to deal with attacks on the Faith we’d expect to see the opposite. (n.b former Catholics make up the second largest group of Christians in the USA).
b/c less ppl believe that the Eucharist is the actual blood and body has nothing to do with the change of mass format. It has to do with ppl not trusting the faith that was handed down to us. They can simply look at John 6 and see that Jesus was talking straight forward. But in no way shape or form did the disbelief begin when the mass when to native tongues.
Yes, there are converts coming into the Faith (Deo Gratias), but none of those mentioned became Catholic solely b/c they attended English language Masses. They did so b/c they realized the Truth of the Church through extensive study and debate - OUTSIDE of Mass. There also is an exodus, even greater in number, of Catholics out of the Church - Catholics whose entire religious education, post 8th grade, is the Mass. If the Mass was equipping them to be apologists, it’s doing a bad job.
Look at what you said about why Protestants come in, bc they see the truth. Those who leave do it out of ignorance. Ppl need to understand that Christ instituted the Eucharist and mass not for entertainment but for salvation. All these ppl say that the Holy Spirit is talking to them and telling to start their own Church, but if that’s the case Jesus contradicted himself when he said he wanted us to be 1. Jesus even had ppl walk out on him, once again John 6 tells us that, they didn’t believe what he said. So if Jesus had this happen, then us as humans would suffer even more.
I agree with all of this, but none of it supports the translation of the Mass into the vernacular nor does it show that the vernacular Mass is equipping Catholics for apologetics.
The reason why I say its good that the mass changed bc ppl who are not Catholic, I have heard this would say, well they spoke in another language they were saying bad things, or they weren’t reading from the bible. Look at the end off the day you can go to 24 hours of mass, one after another after another, but just go to go. You have to understand that if ppl don’t understand that the Eucharist is not the real body and blood of Christ that’s for them to have to deal with God.
Thank you very much - I hadn’t thought about whether there might be a translation available, I was just concerned that I not cause offense by sitting at the wrong times
I would recommend bringing along an little English Missal to help you follow the readings for the days you will be there. When I attend Mass in a different language, I still use the English responses, although I try to follow along in their language. The great thing is that despite language, it still conveys the same meaning. To use the phrase, “We are many parts, but we are all one body of Christ.”Thank you very much - I hadn’t thought about whether there might be a translation available, I was just concerned that I not cause offense by sitting at the wrong times
Even if I can’t understand the homily, God’s Word is always good for my soul.
Sorry, not exactly true. At least 5% of the Catholic Church, the Eastern Catholics, did not use Latin in their mass and their mass is every bit as valid as the Latin mass.