Mass at home with regular bread

[Nick_P]

Here’s a dilema. I know of an annual memorial mass that is held at the house of a friend of my Aunt’s. The woman’s daughter passed away due to medical negligence.

Unfortunately, the priest who says the mass has apparently used regular bread instead of unleavened bread at this mass. I have never been present at these masses, but my cousin confirmed these facts.

What does one do about this?

Nick

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

Here’s a dilema. I know of an annual memorial mass that is held at the house of a friend of my Aunt’s. The woman’s daughter passed away due to medical negligence.

Unfortunately, the priest who says the mass has apparently used regular bread instead of unleavened bread at this mass. I have never been present at these masses, but my cousin confirmed these facts.

What does one do about this?

Nick

I would decline the invitation and advise other to do so.
There is absolutely no reason why the priest could not bring the proper hosts and wine with him.

 

[DJJG]

I do not believe that REGULAR bread whould be valid matter, due to all the extra stuff added to it: yeast, preservatives etc. Therefore the bread would not be trasubstantiated into the body of Christ, and it would be just bread. This is gravely wrong and sacraligious. I definatly would not attend, as well.

I sure hope that that priest went to confession before he offered another mass.

 

[asquared]

this is so 70s, how retro. let us be kind, perhaps he was an Eastern Rite priest, where leavened bread is permissible. Also, if you did not witness it yourself it is not your problem, and may be the liturgical version of an incipient urban legend. By the way, if the priest did err I also hope he goes to confession, by even if he does not that will not effect the validity of his priestly actions in confecting the Eucharist, forgiving sins etc.

 

[Brendan]

From the context of your question, it is unclear if you mean “regular bread” in the sense that it is all wheat, but leaven, or “regular bread” in the sense that the priest is using commercial bread from the grocery store.

If the bread is made from only wheat and flour, but is leaven, it is an actual Mass, but not licit. Meaning that a Mass is offered but it is done against the teachings of the Church (and likely a sin for the priest)

If the priest is using store bought bread (even the kind that says “wheat bread”, there are too many other ingredients for it to be valid. In which case, it isn’t even a Mass.(again, most likely a sinful act)

 

[rwoehmke]

I AM JUST CURIOUS. WAS THE BREAD JESUS USED AT THE LAST SUPPER JUST WHEAT FLOUR AND WATER? NO SALT EVEN. PRETTY AWFUL. DOES THE UNLEAVENED BREAD OF THE EXODUS HAVE A PLAY IN THIS?

 

[Irish_Melkite]

One has to wonder why an annual memorial Mass is being celebrated in a home since, as I recollect (although I don’t have time to look it up right now) that practice is generally frowned upon and irregular without explicit permission of the ordinary - usually only granted in special circumstances.

Many years,

Neil

 

[BLB_Oregon]

rwoehmke:

I AM JUST CURIOUS. WAS THE BREAD JESUS USED AT THE LAST SUPPER JUST WHEAT FLOUR AND WATER? NO SALT EVEN. PRETTY AWFUL. DOES THE UNLEAVENED BREAD OF THE EXODUS HAVE A PLAY IN THIS?

Remember that Jesus and the Twelve were celebrating Passover at the Last Supper. If you are still curious, go get some matzah, kosher for Passover… not the sesame seed or onion stuff. You’ll get the idea. It’s different from hosts in that it shatters in about a billion pieces when broken, as a cracker would.

If you don’t know what to do with the box of it once you get it home, soak it in some eggs and cook as you would french toast. It isn’t the same dish, but it is comfort food to lots of Jewish kids.

 

[rwoehmke]

Irish Melkite:

One has to wonder why an annual memorial Mass is being celebrated in a home since, as I recollect (although I don’t have time to look it up right now) that practice is generally frowned upon and irregular without explicit permission of the ordinary - usually only granted in special circumstances.

Many years,

Neil

For a few years after vatican II in the late sixties our pastor would have additional masses outside of the daily schedule in peoples homes. Usually never the same home twice. This stopped a long time ago now as I thought our Bishop decided not to continue the practice.

 

[tee_eff_em]

BLB_Oregon:

If you don’t know what to do with the box of it once you get it home, soak it in some eggs and cook as you would french toast. It isn’t the same dish, but it is comfort food to lots of Jewish kids.

(Aside:
We always like to pick up a box at Passover/Easter, and spread it with ham salad made from Easter dinner leftovers. Likely not Jewish-kid-comfort-food, but still danged tasty )

tee

 

[BLB_Oregon]

(Aside:
We always like to pick up a box at Passover/Easter, and spread it with ham salad made from Easter dinner leftovers. Likely not Jewish-kid-comfort-food, but still danged tasty )

tee

Another good use for matzah… of which there are many. Yours does not sound like one that would be found in a Jewish cookbook, though!