Mass celebration

[ngoyaemjukuu]

NOTE: In Developing countries.

when in mass kit the chalice is forgotten while your at Outstation far from parish in Easter Vigil may a priest celebrate mass using another utensil apart from chalice?

 

[TheDoctor]

Yes. In developed countries also. A chalice made of precious metal is preferred but in a pinch any vessel will do. Think of priests who have celebrated Mass in POW camps and prisons.

 

[PJM]

NOTE: In Developing countries.

when in mass kit the chalice is forgotten while your at Outstation far from parish in Easter Vigil may a priest celebrate mass using another utensil apart from chalice?

YES with JUST cause

 

[FrDavid96]

Yes. In developed countries also. A chalice made of precious metal is preferred but in a pinch any vessel will do. Think of priests who have celebrated Mass in POW camps and prisons.

That’s not how it works.

All of the necessary liturgical items are required for the celebration of Mass. They aren’t rendered optional because of examples of persecution where such items were impossible to obtain.

If you went to the dentist office and the dentist pulled out an old rusty pair of electrician’s pliers to work on your teeth and said to you “just think of the dentists who worked with tools like this in the WWII camps.” Would you find that acceptable? Or would you rather that the dentist make every possible effort to use the proper implements?

The standard is not “in a pinch” (whatever that might mean) but instead “in an impossible situation.”

 

[TheDoctor]

All of the necessary liturgical items are required for the celebration of Mass. They aren’t rendered optional because of examples of persecution where such items were impossible to obtain.

Agreed, of course.

If you went to the dentist office and the dentist pulled out an old rusty pair of electrician’s pliers to work on your teeth and said to you “just think of the dentists who worked with tools like this in the WWII camps.” Would you find that acceptable? Or would you rather that the dentist make every possible effort to use the proper implements?

If it was a dentist in a situation where the proper tools could be obtained or I could come back, of course not. However if I was wounded on a battlefield and the corpsman had only an old rusty pair of electrician’s pliers to stop the bleeding from the femoral artery wound, I would most certainly want him to use it.

The standard is not “in a pinch” (whatever that might mean) but instead “in an impossible situation.”

I believe I said a chalice made fo precious metal is the “standard”. “In a pinch” I have always used to mean in a situation where no other option is available.

 

[TheDoctor]

Agreed, of course.

If it was a dentist in a situation where the proper tools could be obtained or I could come back, of course not. However if I was wounded on a battlefield and the corpsman had only an old rusty pair of electrician’s pliers to stop the bleeding from the femoral artery wound, I would most certainly want him to use it.

I believe I said a chalice made of precious metal is the “standard”. “In a pinch” I have always used to mean in a situation where no other option is available.