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[Damascus]

This verse says nothing about this happening from the very moment. It describes a process–and the process can take time.

You quoted lots of scripture, but I don’t see any scripture that overtly says “God looks at us through Jesus blood so He doesn’t see our sin” or something similar. Where does the Bible say that specifically. I don’t think it does. Again, I could be wrong as I don’t have the whole Bible memorized, but I’m interested if you can provide a verse that supports that fully.

You are not wrong. The problem is hes looking for verses that justify his position and using personal interpretation to tell us all what those verses mean.

 

[gardenswithkids]

How can it be sufficient if we can not fully recieve it, would you give someone a gift he was not able to use and then say it was the perfect gift?

Yes, often! We give our children golf clubs, bikes, baseball mitts, and all other kinds of sporting equiptment at Christmas when it’s snowy and cold outside. Golf clubs were a great gift for one of my son’s, but he couldn’t use them right away and when could he wasn’t very good at golf. He practiced putting indoors, used the rest of the clubs when the weather got warmer; he eventually got pretty good at golf.

It’s not that we can’t ever fully recieve the gift from God; it’s that we need to sometimes wait and develop our skills to fully utilize His most perfect gift.

 

[gardenswithkids]

You are not wrong. The problem is hes looking for verses that justify his position and using personal interpretation to tell us all what those verses mean.

I dislike speculating on people’s motive, but I dont think he doing that from reading his older posts. I think he’s trying to figure out our whole Catholic theology, and he’s having a hard time reconciling it with what he thinks the Bible says. That’s why I think it’s really important for the op (and all of us) to read what a Bible passage actually says and not add to it based on what we’ve been told it says. We read the Bible verse in context with the surrounding text, the rest of the Bible and with sacred tradtion. I think it’s important distinguish what protestant traditions have taught some about the Bible and salvation, which somtimes differs from what the Bible really says.

 

[nasb]

How do you explain Philippians 2:12-13 then, Damo?

"Wherefore, my beloved, … work out your own salvation **with fear and trembling’ **

I agree with Damo73. The verse says to work OUT, not to work FOR your own salvation.

Sorry don’t have more time to comment.

Soli Deo Gloria

 

[LilyM]

LilyM;1590532:

How do you explain Philippians 2:12-13 then, Damo?

"Wherefore, my beloved, … work out your own salvation **with fear and trembling’ **

I agree with Damo73. The verse says to work OUT, not to work FOR your own salvation.

Sorry don’t have more time to comment.

Soli Deo Gloria
The first operative word being 'WORK" regardless of whether it’s WORK OUT or WORK FOR - point is we don’t just sit there passively and ‘get’ saved.

Second point being ‘FEAR AND TREMBLING’ - as I said when I first quoted this, what is there to fear and tremble about unless our salvation is uncertain?

 

[Damascus]

I dislike speculating on people’s motive, but I dont think he doing that from reading his older posts. I think he’s trying to figure out our whole Catholic theology, and he’s having a hard time reconciling it with what he thinks the Bible says. That’s why I think it’s really important for the op (and all of us) to read what a Bible passage actually says and not add to it based on what we’ve been told it says. We read the Bible verse in context with the surrounding text, the rest of the Bible and with sacred tradtion. I think it’s important distinguish what protestant traditions have taught some about the Bible and salvation, which somtimes differs from what the Bible really says.

It has nothing to do with motive.
It has to do with personal interpretation.
“what he thinks”