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Margaret_Ann
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Could you please post the guidelines or PM them to me? I’d love to see our Archeparchy adopt them. It really irks me when brides/maids wear sleeveless/spaghetti strap dresses.
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PennyinCanada
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I’m in Canada. The folks are told not to sing to minimize making droplets inside the church.
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TheLittleLady
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That is not for weddings, only for Confirmation. Our parish uses the same dress code for First Communion.
Weddings are at the discretion of the pastor. We do not have wedding dress code in place
I will get yib a copy, but, won’t be back at work for another 10 weeks. Recovering from major surgery
Weddings are at the discretion of the pastor. We do not have wedding dress code in place
I will get yib a copy, but, won’t be back at work for another 10 weeks. Recovering from major surgery
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Margaret_Ann
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In our parish we sing with our masks on. As I posted on another thread/forum: Commas, semicolons and periods are your best friends. 
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Margaret_Ann
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Oh I’m so sorry! Sending you 
and :hugs:.
and :hugs:.
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Reverent_Howler
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Last week at Mass there was a woman wearing a cartridge filter mask. The sort one wears when applying paint or pesticides. With hubby and two small unmasked children.
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Poet
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It’s sad when we’ve come to a place in this country where we’re considered to be ‘setting a good example’ by doing something that’s absolutely worthless.Anesti33:
Hey, at least you’re setting a good example for those around you.
It would be setting a better example to teach our children critical thinking, to determine whether an action actually has any benefit. Throw in that we should be analyzing whether that same action might have some detriment and then balance the pros and cons.
People all over the web are reporting a plethora of problems from wearing masks–fatigue, lethargy, skin rashes, headaches, faintness, blacking out, increased respiratory problems, strange swellngs from places aggravated by the mask elastics. One man reported that his lungs ‘burn’ after being forced to put one on to do his grocery shopping and that the problem lasts for a couple of days.
And as others have said: there’s growing evidence that these masks do just about zero to actually protect anyone, in part because they now know asymptomatic people do not spread this virus and virtually NO ONE is going into a store coughing and hacking on others anyway.
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Poet
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Being forced to cover one’s airway for many hours a day (or at all really) is 1. not asking, it’s forcing and 2. it’s not relatively painless. It’s causing MANY physical and psychological problems for millions of people. I’m seeing the reports, first hand, all over the web–breathing problems, respiratory issues, headaches/migraines, lethargy, fatigue, trouble thinking clearly, skin rashes, skin irritations, overheating, heat stroke, onset of asthma, and the report of 2 Chinese boys dying while forced to run wearing masks, along with one person whose friend’s father also died while wearing a mask.
Moreover, as more knowledge accumulates–such as that asymptomatic people are NOT passing this on, that the death rate is actually quite low compared to what we were first told (about .03%) and that you cannot catch this just from walking by someone (you need to spend 20 or 30 minutes near someone with the virus to get it), it becomes more apparent that forcing everyone to put on a muzzle isn’t doing much at all to reduce the spread.
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Montrose
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In a public health crisis as grave as this the rights of society must take priority over individual rights.
What do we have instead - these cry babies about their rights because as long as they get their way they don’t care if they infect other people.
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Beryllos
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I see a contradiction between the above two quotations.
Much of what people all over the web report is fashionable nonsense.
There have been so many cases of asymptomatic spreaders, I frankly don’t see how you can write this. Could you tell us who “they” are who “now know” this?
Let’s compare covid-19 cases in states where most people wear masks to those where they don’t. What’s the difference?
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pnewton
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This is the danger of the internet today. There is more misinformation from everyone who thinks he is an expert. Those that seek confirmation of any position will always find it.
BTW, this fallacy is appeal to common knowledge. “People” and “there’s” as opposed to actionalble evidence. To teach our children critical thinking we must first have that knowledge.
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Peeps
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We do have to be careful not to misjudge people, though.
My husband saw a young lady this weekend who had obviously had an allergic reaction to a mask. The skin of her face around her chin, cheeks, and nose-the areas that a mask would cover–were bright red, raw, and weeping, and above the line that the mask would cover (including the skin around her eyes and her forehead) were clear from any redness or weeping.
She was NOT wearing a mask. I don’t blame her, and I hope no one else does.
There are plenty of people who have various contact allergies. It’s possible that if the young lady wears a mask made of a hypo-allergenic fabric, she might be OK. And…it’s also possible that she has such sensitive skin (perhaps due to a med that she has to take for another condition) that she is not able to wear a mask ever.
Another possibility is that she could wear a mask if she takes powerful antihistamine meds–but these usually make a person so woozy that you can’t drive or do any work that requires concentration. In other words, you have to stay home and lie on the sofa! I know, because I have several allergies that cause tongue and throat swelling, and when I am exposed to something that causes my tongue to swell, I immediately take benadryl and prednisone, and both of these knock me for a loop!
So let’s not judge anyone, please.
There are also people like me who experience panic reaction just looking at people wearing masks above their nose! I’ve tried…but I still wear the mask below my nose. I wish I could pull it up, but…
My husband saw a young lady this weekend who had obviously had an allergic reaction to a mask. The skin of her face around her chin, cheeks, and nose-the areas that a mask would cover–were bright red, raw, and weeping, and above the line that the mask would cover (including the skin around her eyes and her forehead) were clear from any redness or weeping.
She was NOT wearing a mask. I don’t blame her, and I hope no one else does.
There are plenty of people who have various contact allergies. It’s possible that if the young lady wears a mask made of a hypo-allergenic fabric, she might be OK. And…it’s also possible that she has such sensitive skin (perhaps due to a med that she has to take for another condition) that she is not able to wear a mask ever.
Another possibility is that she could wear a mask if she takes powerful antihistamine meds–but these usually make a person so woozy that you can’t drive or do any work that requires concentration. In other words, you have to stay home and lie on the sofa! I know, because I have several allergies that cause tongue and throat swelling, and when I am exposed to something that causes my tongue to swell, I immediately take benadryl and prednisone, and both of these knock me for a loop!
So let’s not judge anyone, please.
There are also people like me who experience panic reaction just looking at people wearing masks above their nose! I’ve tried…but I still wear the mask below my nose. I wish I could pull it up, but…
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pnewton
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I am pleased to announce we will be having Mass again this weekend, for the first time since June. My priest has recovered from a difficult illness. While he was older, he was also a life-long runner. This has been the longest in his life he has not ran, nor said Mass.
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dochawk
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sure, except for all fo the actual scientific evidence.
The use of masks to prevent the spread from an infected person (in general, not just this particular virus) is long established, kind of like the earth going around the sun.
I’ll acknowledge being surprised, though, at the finding (from real scientists, not the nutcases) that there is an apparent 2/3 reduction in chance of infection from wearing one, given that the eyes (nice an moist) are generally the best vector for catching something in the air
Yes, there are complications from masks. Tgat’s in the same category as the class of car accidents in which people die grin wearing a seatbelt that would have survived without one. They exist, yes, but are the exception. (and my daughter is one of the ones who has difficulty breathing with a mask, and is at particularly high risk if she catches anything affecting the lungs, due to having had one collapsed for a surgery a decade ago).
Personally, I generally wear a bandana over nose an mouth and past the chin. It’s all cotton, doesn’t bother allergies (I can’t even wear a blended sweater over a turtleneck), and does the job. It also happens to be more comfortable than elastic over the ears. [OK, and Im covered if I need to rob a stagecoach. . . . :crazy_face
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EXdrinker
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Let’s look at logic…
90+% of the people are not sick so 90% of mask wearing is entirely useless.
Masks worn and handled properly may offer some protection from spreading the virus from the remaining less than 10%, let’s say they are 80% effective and handled properly by 50% of the people (both way high estimates). This puts us down to less than 4% impact by all people wearing a mask. Assuming 25% of people are social distancing enough for masks not to be needed (probably low end) we are down to well less than 3% of mask wearing to impact spread on any way. Combine that with a mortality rate of less than 1% and we are talking a
.0003% affect on death rates of those around them. For this we must all wear a mask?
We are forced to wear masks because of election year politics, period.
90+% of the people are not sick so 90% of mask wearing is entirely useless.
Masks worn and handled properly may offer some protection from spreading the virus from the remaining less than 10%, let’s say they are 80% effective and handled properly by 50% of the people (both way high estimates). This puts us down to less than 4% impact by all people wearing a mask. Assuming 25% of people are social distancing enough for masks not to be needed (probably low end) we are down to well less than 3% of mask wearing to impact spread on any way. Combine that with a mortality rate of less than 1% and we are talking a
.0003% affect on death rates of those around them. For this we must all wear a mask?
We are forced to wear masks because of election year politics, period.
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pnewton
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Just to be clear, this thread is on wearing masks at Mass, you know, what the bishops are in charge of.
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EXdrinker
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Just to be clear bishop’s decisions are heavily affected by politics, especially during this election year.
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pnewton
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If you think so. I know here they were required before any order for public safety. The only factor was the pro-life moral teaching of the Church, at least that was here, and that was my bishop.
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EXdrinker
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I hope you are correct about your bishop’s reasoning.
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puer.dei
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Mine as well. I’ve never seen him do anything because of “politics.”
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