Mass on January 1

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It’s cool adam…I was just playing. I don’t think you are judging since you said you didn’t know the particulars. I think it’s good you are comcerned about your fellow Catholic’s soul. More should be like you and attend to the spiritual works of mercy.

Boy those little words by Pope Francis really have some long legs…
 
I am from the US, but I will actually be in Mexico over new years. What is the rule there?
 
No.

Two obligations = two masses. This also applies to the 4th Sunday of Advent and the Christmas obligation. Two obligations, two masses.

Depending on where you live Jan 1 this year may not be a holy day of obligation. In the US it is not but in Canada it is.
 
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You will have to check when you get there but I believe Mary Mother of God is a holy day of obligation in Mexico.

You cannot fulfill two obligations with one mass.
You will need to attend one mass for Sunday and one mass for the holy day.
 
Interesting.

I’m in the Diocese of Fort Worth. Here’s a chart of our Holy Days of Obligation. It says:
January 1st (Mary, Mother of God), August 15th (Assumption of Mary), and November 1st (All Saints) are Holy Days of Obligation unless they fall on Saturday or Monday. In this case, in the diocese of the United States, the Obligation is dispensed.
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Looking next door at the Diocese of Dallas, they have the same thing:
Whenever January 1, the solemnity of Mary, Mother of God, or August 15, the solemnity of the Assumption, or November 1, the solemnity of All Saints, falls on a Saturday or on a Monday, the precept to attend Mass is abrogated.
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It would be interesting to hear why Saturday or Monday makes a difference-- like it’s somehow weird to go to church two days in a row? --but it’s such a habit, it would be weirder to stay home. 🙂
 
midori said:
It would be interesting to hear why Saturday or Monday makes a difference-- like it’s somehow weird to go to church two days in a row?
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I think when this has been discussed before, it was a combination of workload for the priests and people in areas of the country where a church is at some distance not being motivated to attend Masses two days in a row.

I tend to think it is not a big deal, but then I have always lived in areas where a Catholic Church was at most a couple of miles away and usually much less (like walking distance). I understand this is not the case everywhere in the USA.
 
adamhovey1988 said:
Not sure you should really be partying, especially if you’re a Catholic because of what that implies, and that heavily implies that you’ll be indulging in things that may be mortally sinful.
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The word “partying” does not imply mortal sin. Many of us are capable of attending New Year’s Eve parties without needed immediate confession. 🙂
 
Sorry – since I was replying to someone in the U.S., I presumed that’s what he was talking about.
 
Phemie said:
Always clarify that you are speaking for a specific country. Mary, Mother of God is definitely a Holy Day of Obligation in Canada.
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I believe you that you know the calendar for your own country. I don’t see anything from the Canadian bishops on Holy Days of Obligation. I see the annual calendars for this year and last year, but I don’t see anything on their website that specifically addresses this issue. I’ve read the calendars and I’ve searched the newsletters.

Do you have a link to anything official from the Conference? I’m just curios to read it.
 
On their website I can only find a reference in a 2006 commentary on the Christmas season but what you can find is a pdf of the entire Complementary Norms to the 1983 Code of Canon Law from which I got this screen shot(Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.)
 
Phemie said:
On their website I can only find a reference in a 2006 commentary on the Christmas season but what you can find is a pdf of the entire Complementary Norms to the 1983 Code of Canon Law from which I got this screen shot!
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1ke said:
Canadian complementary norms:
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Thanks to both.

I was curious how it was worded.
 
And for the record, I’ve often seen Jan 1 listed as an obligation in parish bulletins or announced from the pulpit.
 
While it does allow for a bishop to dispense from the obligation for his diocese I’ve never known it to happen. OTOH, that Mary, Mother of God is a HDO has not been mentioned in my parish since 2010, the last year I worked as parish secretary and did the bulletin.

The reverse has happened when it comes to penitential days. When we were told that we no longer had to abstain from meat on Fridays, there was never any mention that according to the norm the obligation to abstain remained but that other things could be substituted for it. And there certainly wasn’t, as is the case in the US, an imposition of abstinence on all Lenten Fridays. A few years ago the Archbishop of Ottawa decreed that all his flock must abstain from meat on Lenten Fridays. The law as it reads presently:
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It won’t kill you to go to Mass two days in a row. Why be so stingy with God - especially after He’s been so generous to you?
 
I just pray for the Virgin Mother to protect me from the spirit of this world , and from the ‘maquinaciones’ of the enemy on those days as I visit my family, and I pray that we as a family, forgive and love one another in the spirit of God, amen.
And I wish you all forum users the same in the name of Jesus Christ. (As I pray a our father for pope Francis’
 
1ke said:
You will have to check when you get there but I believe Mary Mother of God is a holy day of obligation in Mexico.

You cannot fulfill two obligations with one mass.
You will need to attend one mass for Sunday and one mass for the holy day.
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Nope. Presuming that @ajac isn’t setting up domicile or quasi-domicile in Mexico, his/her obligation is the obligation that exists in his/her domicile, per canon 12.3. So, if 1/1 is a holy day of obligation at home, then it’s an obligation where @ajac finds him/herself that day. If it is not, then it’s not an obligation where @ajac happens to be that day. (Nevertheless, it’s still a good opportunity to attend Mass, to give glory to Christ by honoring His mother!)
 
Boy_Wonder said:
It won’t kill you to go to Mass two days in a row. Why be so stingy with God - especially after He’s been so generous to you?
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I’d love to go to mass for the Solemnity of Mary, the Mother of God.

But since the obligation is removed in my diocese, there are very few masses being offered that day.

We may use that as our excuse, however, to drive downtown to go to mass at the cathedral at noon. 😄
 
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