Yes.Tomorrow night I will be going to a 5 PM mass as I will be travelling all day Sunday. The mass is actually scheduled as a daily Saturday mass (readings / propers for Saturday), but despite the intention of the priest celebrant, I think 5 PM falls well within the window of an evening mass on the preceding evening…so I should be covered obligation wise?
Even though it’s already been answered, I’ll chime-in with another “yes.”Tomorrow night I will be going to a 5 PM mass as I will be travelling all day Sunday. The mass is actually scheduled as a daily Saturday mass (readings / propers for Saturday), but despite the intention of the priest celebrant, I think 5 PM falls well within the window of an evening mass on the preceding evening…so I should be covered obligation wise?
Father,Even though it’s already been answered, I’ll chime-in with another “yes.”
The working definition of an “evening Mass” has been 4:00 PM since about WW II.Father,
Can “evening” be universally defined (as in 5 PM will always be considered “evening” for the purposes of canon law in all countries…), or can the local Ordinary determine a more precise time frame? This was in the tropics (I reside in two dioceses in two countries) and sundown will never be until 7 PM no matter what time of year it is. In my Canadian diocese, any 5 PM Saturday evening mass would be celebrated as a Sunday anticipation mass.
Thanks Father. To be clear it was a Saturday mass celebrated at 5 PM on a Saturday, not a Sunday mass, but I understand your point. It still falls within the “evening of the preceding day”.The working definition of an “evening Mass” has been 4:00 PM since about WW II.
I would say that 5 PM is certainly evening, since all the popes since Pius XII have accepted 4 PM as an acceptable time.
We just cannot translate the ancient Roman method of telling time (12 equal hours of each day and night) into our modern clock. We could follow it, but in our world that would be so impractical as to be burdensome. Parishes would have to either have Masses so late (to guarantee after sunset) or else would have a different time every Saturday.
As to your question, again I’ll say that I have no doubt that the Sunday Mass celebrated on Saturday evening at 5 PM or anytime later would satisfy the requirement of an evening Mass.
Out of curiosity, was there a reason given for using the Saturday readings, etc?Thanks Father. To be clear it was a Saturday mass celebrated at 5 PM on a Saturday, not a Sunday mass, but I understand your point. It still falls within the “evening of the preceding day”.
That’s odd. I know it can happen sometimes, but it’s still rather odd.Thanks Father. To be clear it was a Saturday mass celebrated at 5 PM on a Saturday, not a Sunday mass, but I understand your point. It still falls within the “evening of the preceding day”.
Yea this seems to be missed in the responsesThanks Father. To be clear it was a Saturday mass celebrated at 5 PM on a Saturday, not a Sunday mass, but I understand your point. It still falls within the “evening of the preceding day”.
To help in understanding some of the history which lead to the current norm, read this from 1967 the Instruction On Eucharistic Worship of the Sacred Congregation of Rites:28. Anticipating the Sunday and Feast Day Masses on the Previous EveningYea this seems to be missed in the responses
Sunday Mass is obviously different from Saturday Mass and you’d think this would not count as a Sunday Mass.
Curious…
El Paso
Where permission has been granted by the Apostolic See to fulfill the Sunday obligation on the preceding Saturday evening, pastors should explain the meaning of this permission carefully to the faithful and should ensure that the significance of Sunday is not thereby obscured. The purpose of this concession is in fact to enable the Christians of today to celebrate more easily the day of the resurrection of the Lord.
All concessions and contrary customs notwithstanding, when celebrated on Saturday this Mass may be celebrated only in the evening, at times determined by the local Ordinary.
In these cases the Mass celebrated is that assigned in the calendar to Sunday, the homily and the prayer of the faithful are not to be omitted.
What has been said above is equally valid for the Mass on holy days of obligation which for the same reason has been transferred to the preceding evening.Not really, other than the fact that their daily mass is always at 5 pm (Monday to Friday as well). It struck me as odd as well. This is in the Archdiocese of Santo Domingo. I have a domicile in a Canadian diocese and, until last week, a quasi-domicile in Santo Domingo.Out of curiosity, was there a reason given for using the Saturday readings, etc?
It does “count.”Yea this seems to be missed in the responses
Sunday Mass is obviously different from Saturday Mass and you’d think this would not count as a Sunday Mass.
Curious…
El Paso
So, in order for the Saturday evening Mass to count for Sunday, the Mass has to go until after midnight?It does “count.”
The reason is that we are obligated to attend Mass----any Mass. The choice of readings and/or proper prayers does not effect that. If it’s a Mass (yes, a Catholic one) it fulfills the Sunday obligation.
The only requirement is that it be from evening on Saturday until the end of Sunday (Midnight, which is the start of Monday).
i think he ment mass at anytime during that time period.So, in order for the Saturday evening Mass to count for Sunday, the Mass has to go until after midnight?
Thanks for the clarification.i think he ment mass at anytime during that time period.