Masses in Spanish Churches

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My parents have just come back from a cruise and stopped off at a Spanish island on Sunday to attend Mass, they said that it was different to our Mass back home, for one it was in Spanish :rolleyes: and it lasted longer than the Traditional Latin Mass and there was no Communion (although they had to leave after over an hour because my father was not feeling well that day) so maybe Communion was offered later.

Does or has anyone attended a Mass in Spain’s Churches and are they different to the Traditional Latin and N.O Masses.

I just hope they did not mistakenly go to a non-Catholic Church.

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I cannot say for sure, but I bet it was not a Catholic church. We are one holy Catholic and apostolic church. If they attended a mass, it would always be offered whether it was a novus ordo or a tridentine mass.
 
I don’t know about Spain, but I would expect it to be the same there also. I have gone to a few services in Mexico, just across the border, down about 8 hours and close to Mexico City. The mass is really all the same except for the language. It really is fascinating to see how anywhere I go it is universal.I bet it wasn’t a Catholic Church, some spinoffs in more traditional countries don’t deviate so much in appearance from Catholic Churches.
 
Thanks for the info, my initial thoughts was this was not a Catholic Church :nope:

My parents thought that because Spain is mainly Catholic that the Church would be to, seems they unknowingly enterd the wrong Church :tsktsk:

Yours in the Spirit

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. . .it lasted longer than the Traditional Latin Mass and there was no Communion (although they had to leave after over an hour because my father was not feeling well that day) so maybe Communion was offered later.
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The fact that it was over an hour long causes one to presume that it wasn’t Catholic. :rolleyes:
 
Simply because it lasted over an hour does not mean it wasn’t Catholic. One of the local parishes I attend regularly celebrates Mass for about 75 minutes. Sometimes Holy Communion does not take place until after the hour mark.

Also, I have been to a Catholic Mass (Easter Sunday, no less) near Madrid. Unfortunately, it was over twelve years ago and at the time I was not even Catholic so I do not remember much about it. From what I can recall, it was very similar to what one might experience in a typical modern American parish. Regretably, that also includes our drab architecture!
 
Being that last Sunday was Palm Sunday I bet they read the Passion in that church which can take a long long time if done well.
 
Joe Kelley:
The fact that it was over an hour long causes one to presume that it wasn’t Catholic. :rolleyes:
If I had been with them I would have asked the Priest or parishioners if the Church was Catholic, but they said it was very Catholic inside. :confused:

Yours in the Spirit

Pious
 
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Being that last Sunday was Palm Sunday I bet they read the Passion in that church which can take a long long time if done well.
I suddenly thought of that last night, so I mentioned it to them this morning, but they said it was still very long and was continuing after they left; but as they are old and the service was in a foreign language, it may have seemed longer to them.

I aked if they recieved any palms and they said they were all given the palm leaves and something that resembled a willow branch :ehh: they thought they had put it in with their luggage to bring home and show me, so I can not say what it was.

Next time they decide to go on holiday I will get in touch with the Catholic diocese of the area and ask them for a list of Churches.

Yours in the Spirit

Pious
 
I am Puerto Rican and all Catholic masses are celebrated just like in the states, so I’m gonna have to say that they did not go to a catholic church. Spanish masses do tend to run a little bit over as some spanish priests like to talk a lot, so the homily itself can last up to 45 minutes. Also, if you go to a spanish church for the Virgen de Guadalupe celebration, expect to be in church for at least 2 hours. The parish that I used to attend was a spanish parish and the mass started at 10 and it didnt end until about 11:30.

If there was no communion given, then it wasnt a catholic curch. Everything is the same anywhere you go.
 
I think they forgot it was palm Sunday (elderly) so it would have been longer and in another language it would seem longer as they would not understand the words.
 
I aked if they recieved any palms and they said they were all given the palm leaves and something that resembled a willow branch
Fascinating – handing out willow branches on Palm Sunday is a Russian custom. I’m wondering what kind of church this was – is there any way they could have stumbled into an Eastern-rite parish?
 
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Fascinating – handing out willow branches on Palm Sunday is a Russian custom. I’m wondering what kind of church this was – is there any way they could have stumbled into an Eastern-rite parish?
Anything is possible with my family 😃
 
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My parents have just come back from a cruise and stopped off at a Spanish island on Sunday to attend Mass, they said that it was different to our Mass back home, for one it was in Spanish :rolleyes: and it lasted longer than the Traditional Latin Mass and there was no Communion (although they had to leave after over an hour because my father was not feeling well that day) so maybe Communion was offered later.

Does or has anyone attended a Mass in Spain’s Churches and are they different to the Traditional Latin and N.O Masses.

I just hope they did not mistakenly go to a non-Catholic Church.

Yours in the Spirit

Pious
Sorry to tell you: it was not a CATHOLIC CHURCH. If anything, if it were in Spanish or Spain, then by all means believe me the rubrics are more closely followed than here in the USA, if it is Novus Ordo. If anything the SPANISH is closer to LATIN.
 
Sorry to tell you: it was not a CATHOLIC CHURCH. If anything, if it were in Spanish or Spain, then by all means believe me the rubrics are more closely followed than here in the USA, if it is Novus Ordo.
Now, we don’t know that. If it were running longer than a typical mass here in the US (for example, if the ordinary was being sung rather than spoken as it usually is here), and his parents left after an hour, and they didn’t understand what was being sung anyways, it’s perfectly possible that they might have gone away not thinking communion was being offered. And if they were in fact in an Eastern-rite church, not only would it be running much longer than a typical Roman-rite mass, but they would likely be fairly confused about what was going on.
 
This may have been a SSPX church or even an authorized celebration of the former Mass.

Prior to the liturgical renewal, while in theory any Catholic was free to present himor herself for communion, generally people receieved once a month or less and at an early morning Mass while at the principal service few and sometimes no lay people went to communion. The priest may have given the briefest possible glance at the assembly and then just proceded assuming no one was presenting themselves.
 
It could not of been an SPPX church as my father grew up with the Traditional Latin Mass, so he would have noticed; I think it was because of the fact that it was Palm Sunday and in a foreign language that it confused them a bit.
 
A Spanish island?

Which Spanish island?

Were there missals?

If your parents did not stay the entire service, and it seems that they have little or no understandingof Spanish, then there is no way to determine if the service was La Santa Misa en español.

Believe it or not, the Mass in Spanish is celebrated in Pittsburgh. My esposa, who is from Colombia, and I have attended Mass there several times.

Mass always starts late and ends even later. Such is the way of Latin life.
 
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A Spanish island?

Which Spanish island?

Were there missals?

If your parents did not stay the entire service, and it seems that they have little or no understandingof Spanish, then there is no way to determine if the service was La Santa Misa en español.

Believe it or not, the Mass in Spanish is celebrated in Pittsburgh. My esposa, who is from Colombia, and I have attended Mass there several times.

Mass always starts late and ends even later. Such is the way of Latin life.
I have been to Mass in Spain (many, many years ago), in Dominican Republic, in Puerto Rico, and in Venezuela, and I have never experienced any difficulty in determing whether it was, in fact, Mass, or where in the celebration the priest has reached.

I have been (still am) in Venezuela since last Monday (May 16th). I usually go to daily Mass, and, to my delight, I discovered that the local parish church is 5 minutes walk from my hotel, and that it has Mass each evening at 6.00 pm. I was able to attend the daily Masses on Tuesday, Thursday and Friday. I also went to the 5.30 Mass on Saturday evening. Well, this Mass was truly Latin - it started at 6.10 pm!! Actually, that was because they were waiting for the arrival of what appeared to me to be a bishop, although they refered to Monsignor.

I always take my Missal with me - these days, I have a Daily Roman Missal - so that I can follow along. There is no way that I will not know what part of Mass is being celebrated between that Missal and simple observation.

But, even if I did not have my Missal, and I had even less knowledge of Spanish than I have (and that is minimal), I believe I would be able to tell where in the celebration we were. You can usually recognize the confetior, the Gloria, the readings, the Gospel, at least the Holy, Holy, Holy, if not the Preface, and, of course, the Consecration. After that, it is impossible to miss the Amen, the Our Father, and the sign of peace.

Although foreign languages can be confusing, the Mass is truly univeral, and with careful attention, it should be possible to figure out what is going on.

It is always interesting to see the local cultural differences - some I like, some I do not. Here in Venezuela, the noise in the church before and after Mass is horrendous! It is, to me, like before the cinema show!! But apparantly it is when and where everyone who knows others greet and catch up.

Some hold hands at the Our Father, but no one seems to push anyone to do so. (So, this seems to have spread throughout the world??!!)

At the sign of peace, there is much embracing, even of total strangers, and even of women by strange men!! They also walk all over the church to embrace and/or kiss everyone they want to, and this continues to some extent during the Lamb of God.

I’ve noticed that, in the parish I am visiting, although there are kneelers, those who kneel are in the minority. Most seem to stand for the entire Eucharistic Prayer, while those who kneel stand up after the response to the “Mystery of Faith.”

Perhaps half of those at Mass do not receive Communion, and about half of those who do receive on the tongue.

On Sunday, while one priest celebrated Mass the other was kept busy in the confessional. He came to the altar in time to distribute Communion. There were no EMHCs - I have not seen one there at all, although there was rather a large congregation at the Friday, Saturday and Sunday Masses.

None of the above is meant as criticism, just my observations from the past week. The priests who serve this parish are young men (two of them) and appear to be enthusiastic and, from what I have gleaned with my smattering of Spanish, are doing their utmost to catechize the faithful.

It always comforts me that, no matter where you are, the Mass is always the same, in spite of any liturgical abuses that may happen - more often than not, in my local diocese…
 
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