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It’s reasonable to conclude that since few females can achieve an orgasm through vaginal intercourse, that the belief of the Church is deficient. God’s intricate design of the female created her medically incapable of internal pleasure, but according to His nature, He made her capable of external pleasure.

Why would God create her with the ability to achieve orgasm, but deem her means to that end unnatural?

The reasonable conclusion is that God did not make a mistake during His creation; and therefore it’s unnatural to deny the female the mutual enjoyment in the union for which she was created … in the beginning.
 
11Rebekah22 said:
It’s reasonable to conclude that since few females can achieve an orgasm through vaginal intercourse, that the belief of the Church is deficient. God’s intricate design of the female created her medically incapable of internal pleasure, but according to His nature, He made her capable of external pleasure.

Why would God create her with the ability to achieve orgasm, but deem her means to that end unnatural?

The reasonable conclusion is that God did not make a mistake during His creation; and therefore it’s unnatural to deny the female the mutual enjoyment in the union for which she was created … in the beginning.
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The Church does not deny the stimulation of the woman in sexual intercourse. The process simply must be finished inside the woman. Masturbation, regardless of gender, is an intrinsically and gravely disoredered act of self-pleasure. It dismantles the virtue of charity within the person and denies God the opportunity to express his awesome creative power. You see, sexual pleasure is a medium of expressing intimate love between spouses; NOT an opportunity to give pleasure to oneself, just with some pesky restrictions and hoops to jump through.
 
I’m sorry I might be mistaken I was under the impression that the ideas of Pope John Paul II when he wrote Theology of the Body in 1979 had been one of the first, if not the first, to have explored the sacrament of marriage to this extraordinary level comparative to creation.

Bear with me, I’m not making an effort to avoid or get around a rule, but I think that even stimulating the wife in the marriage bed is intrinsically evil. The idea that it only has to “End” with copulating internally I’d heard was a grave era. ALL sexual acts MUST be ordered to procreation.

I’m reminded of evolution, we can advance as a religion without remaining stagnant to mid-century doctoral teaching (i.e. The Earth is flat) and until John Paul II made the statement: “New knowledge has led to the recognition of the theory of evolution as more than a hypothesis …” (Address of Pope John Paul II to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences October 22, 1996). During this address, he made my favorite point: “In order to delineate the field of their own study, the exegete and the theologian must keep informed about the results achieved by the natural sciences.”

So in conclusion, natural sciences have advanced the knowledge of women’s reproductive inner (outer) workings, so let us move forward as well.
 
11Rebekah22 said:
It’s reasonable to conclude that since few females can achieve an orgasm through vaginal intercourse, that the belief of the Church is deficient. God’s intricate design of the female created her medically incapable of internal pleasure, but according to His nature, He made her capable of external pleasure.

Why would God create her with the ability to achieve orgasm, but deem her means to that end unnatural?

The reasonable conclusion is that God did not make a mistake during His creation; and therefore it’s unnatural to deny the female the mutual enjoyment in the union for which she was created … in the beginning.
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I’m sorry if that’s a problem for you, I’ll pray for you, but that’s completely untrue.
 
It’s a medical fact! Look it up. Ask your doctor. Most women (80%) can only achieve orgasm through direct stimulation, which means 80 out of 100 Catholic wives are lying 😉

Pay that debt and smile!
 
should i confess this and if so how would i tell the priest wording it wise
 
werstrng said:
should i confess this and if so how would i tell the priest wording it wise
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Welcome to the forums werstrng.🙂
Yes
If married tell the priest you committed the sin of adultry by yourself,
If single tell the priest you fornicated by yourself.
Include if viewing porn was involved in committing this sin.
 
Perhaps you should lower your vitamin B and or potassium intake; having too much of either of those can make your hormones go crazy. Also, I read that avoiding grains can help to lower the sex drive.
 
All the advice I’ve read in this thread is wonderful and good.
  1. MANDATORY Confession for serious sin .
  2. Go to communion as often as possible if not daily.NEVER RECEIVE IF YOU ARE NOT WORTHY. .This should be your goal of life as you have read many who have advise you here. They are building themselves treasure in Heaven…the treasure…the vision of the Infinitely beautiful God to the degree of their holiness…EVERYONE IN HEAVEN IS PERFECTLY HAPPY BUT NOT EQUALLY HAPPY!!!
  3. Use the Brown, Green scapular and the Miraculous medal. Faith and its fruits takes time and patience to grow.
  4. The Divine Office, Rosary, Divine Mercy Chaplet.
    5)Offer Mass for Holy Souls and alms giving - acts of mercy.
    The above are the foundation of a serious spiritual life…
    also…
  5. Image of the Divine Mercy,
    7)15 prayers of St Bridget.
    8)AND THE FEAST OF THE DIVINE MERCY WHICH IS THIS 15th April 2012, this year. Let me explain…
    a) Divine Mercy Sunday Promise- ANYONE RECEIVING HOLY COMMUNION AND CONFESSION ON THIS FEAST DAY WILL RECEIVE COMPLETE REMISSION OF SIN AND PUNISHMENT.
    Confession as close as possible to the Feast, then you would have fulfilled this REQUIREMENT OF CONFESSION, according to the Booklet “The Divine Mercy_Message and Devotion- Marians of the Immaculate Conception “…we should make our Confession even before Holy Week… .”
    Of course, if we need to go to confession because of serious sin even after then, let us do so to receive communion worthily on the Feast Day.
    This promise is liken to the grace received atBaptism. What happens at the Baptism of an adult? All sin and punishment is remitted. They become a new creation with NO ATTACHMENT TO SIN. Therefore if they were to die the next day without committing another sin, they would go straight to Heaven. THAT IS THE GIFT OF BAPTISM…THERE IS TOTAL CLENSING AND FREEDOM!!!
    This 15th April, we can receive THIS GRACE OF BAPTISM. He promises to pour out a whole ocean of graces on this Feast day. YOU WILL PROBABLY RECEIVE THIS GRACE. JUST HUMBLE YOURSELF AND TRUST MOST FULLY IN THE SACRED HEART OF JESUS. Retain the spirit of mercy”-Blessed are the merciful, they will be shown mercy".
    On receiving the grace, you may or may not feel it…but you will become a new creation. All your habits of sin and other attachments to sin WILL BE BROKEN. WITH EACH YEAR PASSING YOU WILL NOTICE THE ROOTS F SIN BECOME MORE AND MORE SHALLOW AND THE ROOTS OF VIRTUE GROW DEEPER.
    FOR example if one were a smoker, if he has received this grace, he is able to give up smoking altogether without going cold turkey. IT WOULD NOT MAKE SENSE, TO HAVE RECEIVE THIS GRACE AND YET BE A SLAVE TO SMOKING…IF WE ARE STILL A SLAVE TO SIN AND BAD HABITS WE WOULD NEED TO GO TO PURGATORY…AND THIS WOULD BE A CONTRADICTION OF WHAT IS GIVEN.
    Then you may ask yourself…, If that is so, how come people still smoke and go back to bad habits etc. Shouldnt we be able to be able to resist sin and bad habits???
    The crux is people are not aware of the gift given and so HAVE NOT REALLY MADE A FIRM PURPOSE OF AMENDMENT WITH GREAT FERVOUR AND LOVE OF GOD.
    And so, a smoker even though he has received the gift MAY JUST START A LIGHT OUT OF HABIT even if he DOESNT FEEL THE URGE TO SMOKE.
    Also, the devil WILL DO ALL HE CAN TO ENTRAP US AGAIN THROUGH TEMPTATION… BUT IF WE ARE AWARE OF THE GIFT AND RESIST REASONABLY WE WILL WIN THE VICTORY.
B) The Image of the Divine Mercy.THE PROMISE THAT JESUS MADE IS,
“I PROMISE THAT THE SOUL THAT WILL VENERATE THIS IMAGE WILL NOT PERISH. I ALSO PROMISE VICTORY OVER (its) ENEMIES ALREADY HERE ON EARTH, ESPECIALLY AT THE HOUR OF DEATH.(47)”

We will have a peaceful death, IF WE VENERATE THE IMAGE. We will overcome our enemies, the devil, the flesh and the world, in this life. We will see ourselves winning the victory.

"I am offering the people a vessel with which they are to keep coming for graces to the fountain of mercy.That vessel is this image with the signature, “Jesus I trust in you”.

This promise of Our Lord is the remind us to keep coming to the Image for those special actual graces He desires to give to those who are humble. Recall Naaman the leper who Isaias told to bath in the Jordan 7 times to be cured of his leprosy. Naaman was indignant yet on the advise of those who came with him he dipped himself 7 times and was cured. Similiarly, To wear the image around our necks as an act of veneration is such a simple thing to do and yet I personally have received some extraodinary blessings from it. You may get it fm DM publications, Ireland., a non profit organisation which helps orphans in Europe.

c) the 15 prayers of St Bridget.

I was a bit disappointed on learning that the promise attached to the 15 prayers were not authenticated,as they were the reasons why i wanted to pray them… though the prayers themselves are authentic.Our Lord was kind enough to tell me,I felt (just a gentle voice) that the gifts are even greater than the promises. And he led me to uncover the following quotes,
"There is more merit to 1 hour of meditation on My Sorrowful Passion that there is a whole year of flagellation that draws blood; the contemplation of My painful wounds is of great profit to you, and it brings Me great joy.(Diary of St Faustina K. Pg 166 No.369)

Blessed Albert the Great…learned in a revelation that by simply thinking or meditating on the Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ, a christian gains more merit than if he has fasted on bread and water every Friday for a whole year or had beaten himself with the discipline once a week until the blood flowed, or had recited the whole book of Psalms everyday.
(The Secret of the Rosary by St Louis Marie de Montfort Pg68)
One other thot that I felt that Our Lord consoled me with ON ANOTHER DAY…AS THIS IS TOO LONG TO SUBMIT…
God bless.
Kentcara2003 (SSCC 3rd Order)
 
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