Masturbation: Why is it Wrong if...?

[SuperLuigi]

I don’t think there is anything wrong with masturbation, myself; I think it’s very healthy.

:dts:

But, it is not :nope: healthy. It kills a persons sexual drive and interferes with a healthy, valid marriage.

Any good dating coach would frown on it.

I’ll take a page out of the pornography advice someone once gave:

“If you think it’s just a choice and it’s okay and not a problem, try stopping and see what happens”.

Here is what C. S. Lewis had to say (below, from Catholic Answers). I find it interesting that the same arena of voices who cry out for female equality and are against domestic violence endorse the following:

“For me the real evil of masturbation would be that it takes an appetite which, in lawful use, leads the individual out of himself to complete (and correct) his own personality in that of another (and finally in children and even grandchildren) and turns it back; sends the man back into the prison of himself, there to keep a harem of imaginary brides.

"And this harem, once admitted, works against his ever getting out and really uniting with a real woman.

"For the harem is **always accessible, always subservient, calls for no sacrifices **or adjustments, and can be endowed with erotic and psychological attractions which no woman can rival.

"Among those shadowy brides he is always adored, always the perfect lover; no demand is made on his unselfishness, no mortification ever imposed on his vanity.

"In the end, they become merely the medium through which he increasingly adores himself. . . . After all, almost the main work of life is to come out of our selves, out of the little dark prison we are all born in. Masturbation is to be avoided as all things are to be avoided which retard this process. The danger is that of coming to love the prison.”

 

[SuperLuigi]

It has been 5 weeks since I have “fallen.”

I just wanted to check back for two reasons.

First of all, to those who say that purity is unattainable or impractical, I must say that it is only through the grace of God that you will find peace. There is no other way that I could have gone this long without committing an act of impurity, especially considering where I had come from. (I had done what I felt like when I felt I “had to.”)

Anyway, I have every reason to be completely honest because you cannot know me or see who I am through this forum (no my real name isn’t mac90).

Secondly (and primarily), I wanted to reinforce my resolution to stay pure and not commit these acts again. I thought that if I reread the reasons why it is wrong to do these things, I would stay strong. It’s been a bitter struggle at times, but I know I am not the only one dealing with this (not by a long shot), so I wanted to share that it’s possible. I think that this is partly how we are to win our eternal reward with God: that is, by staying pure and true to Him. An eternal reward can only be given to those who are faithful to Him.

“Blessed are the pure of heart, for they shall see God.” After all, “Who shall ascend the mountain of the Lord? And who shall stand in His holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false” (Psalm 24, 3-4).

That’s very good, but also pray the rosary and go to daily Mass when you can.

Believe me, it’s worth it!

 

[mac90]

I don’t know your age or marital status, but I suspect you will be less likely to hold to that view as you grow a little older.

Does your conclusion have any implication for your “discerning” status? Have you discerned that Catholicism is not acceptable given this and similar positions on matters of chastity?

I don’t see what age has got to do with it. Are people more strongly tempted to sin as they grow older? The body may deteriorate, but the soul must not necessarily follow. By the way, I said that I am 24 yrs old, male and single. So…when I am old I will be more inclined to sins of the flesh than I am now? That seems unlikely and impossible…may God shield me from such extreme temptations… I am sorry, but I don’t see your point.

If you question Catholicism, I strongly recommend finding another forum/thread that addresses Catholic Doctrine/apologetics, etc.

 

[mac90]

That’s very good, but also pray the rosary and go to daily Mass when you can.

Believe me, it’s worth it!

Yes daily Mass would be great, but for me, unfortunately it is not an option. However, daily rosary is essential. When I lag in devotion to Mary, I start to slip up. That’s what I’ve found anyway. God gave us His mother for support. It is through her intercession that we can earn so many of God’s graces… Thanks for the advice.Yes, ultimately I am sure eternal happiness is worth trying for…I’d hate to take an alternative route

 

[Rau]

I don’t see what age has got to do with it. Are people more strongly tempted to sin as they grow older? The body may deteriorate, but the soul must not necessarily follow. By the way, I said that I am 24 yrs old, male and single. So…when I am old I will be more inclined to sins of the flesh than I am now? That seems unlikely and impossible…may God shield me from such extreme temptations… I am sorry, but I don’t see your point.

If you question Catholicism, I strongly recommend finding another forum/thread that addresses Catholic Doctrine/apologetics, etc.

My post was addressed to Daddygirl, in particular his/her view that masturbation is healthy. I have no idea why you are responding.

 

[mac90]

My post was addressed to Daddygirl, in particular his/her view that masturbation is healthy. I have no idea why you are responding.

Hmm. Sorry about that. It looked like your post followed on mine. I’d delete it except I’m not sure how. I’m still fairly new to this site. Oh well, maybe DaddyGirl will still read it…It should still be relevant to him/her…I still don’t understand the original comment he/she made with regard to age. Sorry about the embarrassment of responding to you when I meant to respond to the other…Shame on me…not for the first time either

 

[sudy]

Hi Mac,

Nobody likes admitting their sins… whether our name is changed or not, and mine is not too dissimilar to my real one so I’m not particularly comfortable with my admission that this is one of my sins that I have turned my back on. The things that have helped me, so far, have been 1) the realization that it offends God. 2) the Bible verse 1 Corinthians: 10 which tells us that no temptation is too great that we cannot overcome it. 3) noticing certain triggers to my behaviour and avoiding them. 4) praying the Rosary, and 5) putting my trust in God to help me… I should also mention that being truly sorry about it and the act of confessing to the priest can be deterrents too.

 

[sudy]

I meant to write 1 Corinthians 10:13

 

[Eagleview]

Some days ago I woke up in the middle of the night with a strong erection. I felt the temptation to masturbate but did not do it. I laid on my side and decided to fall asleep with this strong erection. Then I wake up screaming and felt how my heart hurted really much. Since then I have had pain in my heart and talked with a doctor. After this I have started to think that I should masturbate to not have a very scary and painful problem with my heart again. My heart feels bad almost as if it has got hurt today which is some days later. When I think that Jesus was healing people that were sick then I wonder why my heart hurted much after I had an erection. I am a young man and did not think I would experience heart problems just yet.
What do you think about this that has happened to me?

 

[Rau]

Some days ago I woke up in the middle of the night with a strong erection. I felt the temptation to masturbate but did not do it. I laid on my side and decided to fall asleep with this strong erection. Then I wake up screaming and felt how my heart hurted really much. Since then I have had pain in my heart and talked with a doctor. After this I have started to think that I should masturbate to not have a very scary and painful problem with my heart again. My heart feels bad almost as if it has got hurt today which is some days later. When I think that Jesus was healing people that were sick then I wonder why my heart hurted much after I had an erection. I am a young man and did not think I would experience heart problems just yet.
What do you think about this that has happened to me?

I think the 2 events are unrelated.

It is improper for us to give medical advice.

 

[Eagleview]

I think the 2 events are unrelated.

It is improper for us to give medical advice.

I think they are related. I know that a erection means that the hearts pumps much blood to the penis. I wonder what happened when I fell asleep, it did feel bad.

 

[Rau]

I think they are related. I know that a erection means that the hearts pumps much blood to the penis. I wonder what happened when I fell asleep, it did feel bad.

Does your doctor believe the erection caused heart pains?

I am sure if you die of a heart-attack while alone in your bed, due to an erection - your doctor will be keen to write you up in the medical journals!!

 

[Eagleview]

Does your doctor believe the erection caused heart pains?

I am sure if you die of a heart-attack while alone in your bed, due to an erection - your doctor will be keen to write you up in the medical journals!!

The doctor said that he did not think it was the heart because he said that if the pain is to the left then it is not the heart. He said that the heart is in the center of the body. Then he talked that he thought that it had to do with some inflammation with the ribs. I did however not mention that I had an erection before the same night.

 

[Eagleview]

I have found an article that says that erectile dysfunction gives heart problems. When I read some of the text I thought that erectile dysfunction is similar condition to mine after I stopped masturbating. Here is the article: myhealthwire.com/news/menshealth/915
However later on the writer recommended some type of medicine which I don’t know anything about. Today 1 month after the painful incident, I still feel that my hurt feels hurt (im just sitting in front of the PC). A week ago I jogged and then I felt some small pain in the heart.