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truetofaith
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You can’t recite the rosary, constantly…Jesus & the Blessed Mother will help you with Graces…but you have to set your mind that when tempted, you will muster up a lot of will power!
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kozlosap
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Really? A “decent” Catholic girl? There are so many other aspects of the human personality that trump the decent=virgin old concept that I would worry about much more. So you find a virgin and Marry and then six months down the line discover that your wife is OCD (the rule driven form), racist and attached to her mother by the apron strings, that virginity begins to look less and less like it was a big deal. People change, and there could be a woman out in the wild blue yonder that was sexuality active in college, but at age 25 took an oath to herself to be chaste until marriage. Would you automatically cross her off of your decent list?
To the OP, I’m praying for you to beat your problem and to be happily free from the habit.
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billcu1
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Yes. When I made mistakes. It was me doing it. No the devil. Or any one of thing else.
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truetofaith
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Boy, did you blow my advice out of proportion!Really? A “decent” Catholic girl? There are so many other aspects of the human personality that trump the decent=virgin old concept that I would worry about much more. So you find a virgin and Marry and then six months down the line discover that your wife is OCD (the rule driven form), racist and attached to her mother by the apron strings, that virginity begins to look less and less like it was a big deal. People change, and there could be a woman out in the wild blue yonder that was sexuality active in college, but at age 25 took an oath to herself to be chaste until marriage. Would you automatically cross her off of your decent list?
To the OP, I’m praying for you to beat your problem and to be happily free from the habit.
I gave the guy a couple of things that could give him more of an incentive to stop his habit and you focus on the word “decent” for the girl.
My new advice is …he should find a $10 hooker and he won’t be playing with himself, any more.
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billcu1
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I doubt one will find a $10 hooker either.Boy, did you blow my advice out of proportion!
I gave the guy a couple of things that could give him more of an incentive to stop his habit and you focus on the word “decent” for the girl.
My new advice is …he should find a $10 hooker and he won’t be playing with himself, any more.
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mikekle
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This may not be the best advice, but I have been on various opioid painkillers over the years, it eventually led to a Heroin addiction for a few years, but I am off that now for 4 months thanks to Suboxone, but in all that time taking opiates, I noticed they absolutely killed my sex drive. The Suboxone is the worst (in that regard), it has done miracles for me in terms of the heroin problem and my back/neck pain, but my sex drive is at a big 0 right now.
So maybe if you have any pains that require a prescription or seeing a doctor, opioids COULD also help you with decreasing your sex drive, but definitely do not trade one sin for another!
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billcu1
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Well there is a big difference in SSRIs and Opiates. Paxil is not a controlled substance and while it can be a little bit of a kick to cut down. It’s not comparable to opiates.
I take twice that amount of Paxil and well my desire isn’t gone. But I’ve been on it for years.
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psalm90
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Hebrews says we are under a cloud of witnesses. Would you like to be masturbating with a crowd of witnesses? or committing any sin?
As a previous post indicated, we all have to recognize temptations as just that, temptations.
When you are tempted to sin, do something else, non-sinful, of course. How long does it take for the temptation to pass? If you can do this once, can you do it every time there is a temptation?
My temptations involve anger, and what I do, or particularly, say while angry. What I’ve learned through bitter experience is that anything I say in anger backfires on me, even if I was right about something. I have to realize that I cannot stop evil things.
What really bothers me is how people are talking in church before Mass. I mean, there is no restraint to talk or even, apparently, to consider how talking affects others.
Now, get this. I asked my priest if we could say the rosary routinely before Mass, and he said he’d have to check with others, before he approved it ! Get it? these other people can talk their heads off before Mass, but I need THEIR approval to say the rosary as a group? My temptation is to just to say the rosary out loud, even by myself – if these others can talk, then why can’t I, especially if I’m praying? Aside from anything else, the world is upside down. I normally use an industrial set of earplugs, so that I can say the rosary privately, while everybody else “clucks” on. (And, I also pray with my eyes closed, so I don’t see the nonsense that’s going on, as well.)
I asked my aunt, an elderly lady, about all this talking in church, of which she is a participant, by the way. She says “it’s fellowship.” Fellowship? One old lady was turned around in the pew talking to another in the next pew; I was about 7 pews away and I could clearly hear her saying what she was going to have for supper, an A&W hot dog. Now, is THAT fellowship? In another instance, there was a couple discussing the operation of their new digital camera. THAT’S fellowship? – before the Blessed Sacrament ?
And, don’t even get me started on ushers talking during Mass. And, when the music gets going, they talk louder.
This is so disturbing to me, I have a letter from the Bishop that says if I can’t attend Mass because of this, I don’t have to confess it.
The provocation to sin can be quite strong.
IN Jewish belief, there are 613 commandments from the Torah, and ten more rabbinic commandments. Some of the commandments are to DO something, the rest are NOT TO DO something. Jews are advised to pray before observing all the commandments. That’s a good recommendation for when we are trying to resist temptations.
As a previous post indicated, we all have to recognize temptations as just that, temptations.
When you are tempted to sin, do something else, non-sinful, of course. How long does it take for the temptation to pass? If you can do this once, can you do it every time there is a temptation?
My temptations involve anger, and what I do, or particularly, say while angry. What I’ve learned through bitter experience is that anything I say in anger backfires on me, even if I was right about something. I have to realize that I cannot stop evil things.
What really bothers me is how people are talking in church before Mass. I mean, there is no restraint to talk or even, apparently, to consider how talking affects others.
Now, get this. I asked my priest if we could say the rosary routinely before Mass, and he said he’d have to check with others, before he approved it ! Get it? these other people can talk their heads off before Mass, but I need THEIR approval to say the rosary as a group? My temptation is to just to say the rosary out loud, even by myself – if these others can talk, then why can’t I, especially if I’m praying? Aside from anything else, the world is upside down. I normally use an industrial set of earplugs, so that I can say the rosary privately, while everybody else “clucks” on. (And, I also pray with my eyes closed, so I don’t see the nonsense that’s going on, as well.)
I asked my aunt, an elderly lady, about all this talking in church, of which she is a participant, by the way. She says “it’s fellowship.” Fellowship? One old lady was turned around in the pew talking to another in the next pew; I was about 7 pews away and I could clearly hear her saying what she was going to have for supper, an A&W hot dog. Now, is THAT fellowship? In another instance, there was a couple discussing the operation of their new digital camera. THAT’S fellowship? – before the Blessed Sacrament ?
And, don’t even get me started on ushers talking during Mass. And, when the music gets going, they talk louder.
This is so disturbing to me, I have a letter from the Bishop that says if I can’t attend Mass because of this, I don’t have to confess it.
The provocation to sin can be quite strong.
IN Jewish belief, there are 613 commandments from the Torah, and ten more rabbinic commandments. Some of the commandments are to DO something, the rest are NOT TO DO something. Jews are advised to pray before observing all the commandments. That’s a good recommendation for when we are trying to resist temptations.
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TK421
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Purity isn’t about how hard you try or don’t try. You have to jettison that idea out of heart & mind as soon as possible.
Purity is a gift from Heaven that we receive. I personally believe that it is an exceptionally difficult issue for men today because not only do they lack the company of women - real company - but they are unaware of how they are suppose to satiate that desire in the first place. Because of distortions in the culture, which are motivated through hell’s efforts, we all too readily think of female company strictly in its sexual sense. And indeed, many women themselves - who are captives of hell - willingly present themselves as sex toys, not as miracles of Heaven.
But, even if you lack the holy company of women that you are suppose to have in your life, you always have access to Heaven. You need to fall in love with Mary, completely. You have to allow her to have command of your soul. You have to be willing to die for her in an instant. If you do this, like Adam, you will be given purpose, and you will no longer be lonely, because you will have the love & tenderness of your other half. You’re a man. You have to have someone to fight for. When God said “It is not good for man to be alone” this applies to the entire sex. Single, married, religious, priest. It makes no difference. Men need women. It’s how God built you. If you don’t have that, you become like the billions of men in the world that attempt to satiate that gnawing urge through their carnal passions. It won’t work.
And when you start your Marian devotions, it doesn’t matter how much you feel. What matters is the action, not the emotions behind it. If you want emotions, find a bottle of rum. If you want results, then pray, whether you “feel” like it or not. Just make your first petition this, “Mary, I am a sinner, and I have a hard time even grasping my need to pray to you in the first place. Pray for me that I will fall in love with you and that I will persevere in praying to you and loving you every day of my life. I know that it is morally impossible to be saved unless you will it, so I give you sovereignty over my entire mind, and my entire heart, and my entire soul, and my entire strength. I look forward to the day that I will get to be with you forever in Heaven, where I will never cease to love you or be loved by you, my Mother, my Lady, my Love, my Queen. Amen.”
Pray to her, and pray to her daily. When you feel anxious, go to her arms. She’ll take care of the rest.
Purity is a gift from Heaven that we receive. I personally believe that it is an exceptionally difficult issue for men today because not only do they lack the company of women - real company - but they are unaware of how they are suppose to satiate that desire in the first place. Because of distortions in the culture, which are motivated through hell’s efforts, we all too readily think of female company strictly in its sexual sense. And indeed, many women themselves - who are captives of hell - willingly present themselves as sex toys, not as miracles of Heaven.
But, even if you lack the holy company of women that you are suppose to have in your life, you always have access to Heaven. You need to fall in love with Mary, completely. You have to allow her to have command of your soul. You have to be willing to die for her in an instant. If you do this, like Adam, you will be given purpose, and you will no longer be lonely, because you will have the love & tenderness of your other half. You’re a man. You have to have someone to fight for. When God said “It is not good for man to be alone” this applies to the entire sex. Single, married, religious, priest. It makes no difference. Men need women. It’s how God built you. If you don’t have that, you become like the billions of men in the world that attempt to satiate that gnawing urge through their carnal passions. It won’t work.
And when you start your Marian devotions, it doesn’t matter how much you feel. What matters is the action, not the emotions behind it. If you want emotions, find a bottle of rum. If you want results, then pray, whether you “feel” like it or not. Just make your first petition this, “Mary, I am a sinner, and I have a hard time even grasping my need to pray to you in the first place. Pray for me that I will fall in love with you and that I will persevere in praying to you and loving you every day of my life. I know that it is morally impossible to be saved unless you will it, so I give you sovereignty over my entire mind, and my entire heart, and my entire soul, and my entire strength. I look forward to the day that I will get to be with you forever in Heaven, where I will never cease to love you or be loved by you, my Mother, my Lady, my Love, my Queen. Amen.”
Pray to her, and pray to her daily. When you feel anxious, go to her arms. She’ll take care of the rest.
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TK421
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On the subject of relying upon willpower to follow God’s vision of human sexuality, here are my two cents: if you are able to cease all sexual activity via your conscious willpower, then it means something is defective with your body.
If you’re a healthy, horny, strong male that wakes up with your God-given morning wood, and if you don’t have the purpose in your life that you’re suppose to have, then sooner or later, you’re either going to find a playmate or you’re going to play with yourself. Those passions will have their way with you sooner or later.
If you’re a healthy, horny, strong male that wakes up with your God-given morning wood, and if you don’t have the purpose in your life that you’re suppose to have, then sooner or later, you’re either going to find a playmate or you’re going to play with yourself. Those passions will have their way with you sooner or later.
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billcu1
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I can get along with women as a freind to an extent. Then they want to start trouble of some kind. It never fails. Calumnity or something. All they want to do is argue. The ones I have been around. I have no interest in being around a woman all the time. I just don’t feel like constantly arguing and have to try to read minds to guess what they’re thinking and I guarantee it’s not good. Maybe it’s the women I have been around. If so thank God I haven’t got involved with them. I need to recognize a good woman.
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billcu1
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When you say someone to fight for. All I know by being around them is someone to fight with. I am not interested in that.
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Julian_Peters
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Please see the following thread for additional insight and advice:
- [ List of Catholic Websites for Battling Impurity (http://forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=55427)
- Specific Questions About an Old Topic: Masturbation
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