Mathematical Proof that Jesus is the Messiah

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I stumbled across this article this morning. Any comments?

religionstudy.com/prophecy/messiah/probability_test.htm

The Mathematical Probability of Jesus Fulfilling
Old Testament Prophecies as Israel’s Messiah

Professor Emeritus of Science at Westmont College, Peter Stoner, has calculated the probability of one man fulfilling the major prophecies made concerning the Messiah. The estimates were worked out by twelve different classes representing some 600 university students.

The students carefully weighed all the factors, discussed each prophecy at length, and examined the various circumstances which might indicate that men had conspired together to fulfill a particular prophecy. They made their estimates conservative enough so that there was finally unanimous agreement even among the most skeptical students.

However Professor Stoner then took their estimates, and made them even more conservative. He also encouraged other skeptics or scientists to make their own estimates to see if his conclusions were more than fair. Finally, he submitted his figures for review to a committee of the American Scientific Affiliation. Upon examination, they verified that his calculations were dependable and accurate in regard to the scientific material presented (Peter Stoner, Science Speaks, Chicago: Moody Press, 1969, 4).

For example, concerning Micah 5:2, where it states the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem Ephrathah, Stoner and his students determined the average population of BETHLEHEM from the time of Micah to the present; then they divided it by the average population of the earth during the same period.

They concluded that the chance of one man being born in Bethlehem was one in 300,000, (or one in 2.8 x 10^5 - rounded),

After examining only eight different prophecies (Idem, 106), they conservatively estimated that the chance of one man fulfilling all eight prophecies was one in 10^17.

To illustrate how large the number 10^17 IS (a figure with 17 zeros), Stoner gave this illustration :

If you mark one of ten tickets, and place all the tickets in a hat, and thoroughly stir them, and then ask a blindfolded man to draw one, his chance of getting the right ticket is one in ten. Suppose that we take 10^17 silver dollars and lay them on the face of Texas. They’ll cover all of the state two feet deep. Now mark one of these silver dollars and stir the whole mass thoroughly, all over the state. Blindfold a man and tell him that he can travel as far as he wishes, but he must pick up one silver dollar and say that this is the right one. What chance would he have of getting the right one? Just the same chance that the prophets would’ve had of writing these eight prophecies and having them all come true in any one man, from their day to the present time, providing they wrote them in their own wisdom (Idem, 106-107).

In financial terms, is there anyone who would not invest in a financial venture if the chance of failure were only one in 10^17? This is the kind of sure investment we’re offered by god for faith in His Messiah.

From these figures, Professor Stoner, concludes the fulfillment of these eight prophecies alone proves that God inspired the writing of the prophecies (Idem, 107) - the likelihood of mere chance is only one in 10^17!

Another way of saying this is that any person who minimizes or ignores the significance of the biblical identifying signs concerning the Messiah would be foolish.

But, of course, there are many more than eight prophecies. In another calculation, Stoner used 48 prophecies (Idem, 109) (even though he could have used Edersheim’s 456), and arrived at the extremely conservative estimate that the probability of 48 prophecies being fulfilled in one person is the incredible number 10^157. In fact, if anybody can find someone, living or dead, other than Jesus, who can fulfill only half of the predictions concerning the Messiah given in the book “Messiah in Both Testaments” by Fred J. Meldau, the Christian Victory Publishing Company is ready to give a ONE thousand dollar reward! As apologist Josh McDowell says, “There are a lot of men in the universities that could use some extra cash!” (Josh McDowell, Evidence that Demands a Verdict, California: Campus Crusade for Christ, 175).

How large is the number one in 10^157? 10^157 contains 157 zeros! Stoner gives an illustration of this number using electrons. Electrons are very small objects. They’re smaller than atoms. It would take 2.5 TIMES 10^15 of them, laid side by side, to make one inch. Even if we counted 250 of these electrons each minute, and counted day and night, it would still take 19 million years just to count a line of electrons one-inch long (Stoner, op. cit, 109).

With this introduction, let’s go back to our chance of one in 10^157. Let’s suppose that we’re taking this number of electrons, marking one, and thoroughly stirring it into the whole mass, then blindfolding a man and letting him try to find the right one. What chance has he of finding the right one? What kind of a pile will this number of electrons make? They make an inconceivably large volume.

This is the result from considering a mere 48 prophecies. Obviously, the probability that 456 prophecies would be fulfilled in one man by chance is vastly smaller. According to Emile Borel, once one goes past one chance in 10^50, the probabilities are so small that it is impossible to think that they will ever occur (Ankerberg et. al., op. cit., 21).

As Stoner concludes, ‘Any man who rejects Christ as the Son of God is rejecting a fact, proved perhaps more absolutely than any other fact in the world (Stoner, op. cit., 112).’

God so thoroughly vindicated Jesus Christ that even mathematicians and statisticians, who were without faith, had to acknowledge that it is scientifically impossible to deny that Jesus is the Christ.
 
Everything presupposes the validity of the Old Testament prophesies. As such, it is not a mathematic proof in any proper sense. That isn’t to say that it isn’t correct, but it would be silly for us to assume it is more significant than it actually is.

I would be interested in seeing the specific of each step, statistics are the easiest things in the world to manipulate or give false conclusions, even unintentionally.
 
So a Christian professor at a Christian college gathers some figures to evaluate some prophecies that the Bible says were made. He then submits those figures to a Christian organization of scientists. These Christian people support the figures. The figures say that it is mathematically certain that Jesus was Messiah. Thus, Christianity is validated.

What’s wrong with this picture?
 
It would be nice if there was “proof” that Jesus was the Messiah (and that he was God, for that matter), but these Evangelicals who set up these claims of “Evidence That Demands a Verdict” like Josh McDowell usually do it with a lot of very subjective smoke and mirrors. When you look at the actual words of the “prophecies” that were “fulfilled” by Jesus, you see that the actual “prophecies” are very vague and aren’t necessarily prophesying a future messiah or Jesus. The Evangelicals try a little too hard to make Faith into a branch of science or mathematical proofs, like they do with the Intelligent Design stuff. I’m pretty sure a John of the Cross or a Teresa of Avila would look at what they do, scratch their head and point out, whatever it is, it isn’t religion. Even if you could “prove God”, so what, even the demons believe . . . and shudder
 
One little detail missing from the website … “Peter Stoner (June 16, 1888 – March 21, 1980)” (Wikipedia)

Seems he died 30 years ago, which would explain why he’s not in the Westmont staff directory.

Strange that Stoner never published his results in a peer-reviewed journal, and whoever typed up the webpage should use the present instead of past tense. Wonder why that might be?
 
Thread drift:

This reminds me of an episode I was told of in 19th century, I think, Russia. The Tsar called on two prominent French Mathematicians to prove the existence or non-existence of God. One used only geometrical proofs; the other algebraic.

The one using algebra wrote out some elaborate proof that “e” to the power i(pi)/2 equals the square root of minus 1 (which is true) and concluded that God exists. The geometric man knowing nothing of algebra, was impressed by the mystic numbers “e”, “pi” and “the square root of minus 1”; so was left speechless. The Tsar, understanding nothing of mathematics was therby impressed

Don’t know if it is true, and can’t remember the mathematicians names.
 
So a Christian professor at a Christian college gathers some figures to evaluate some prophecies that the Bible says were made. He then submits those figures to a Christian organization of scientists. These Christian people support the figures. The figures say that it is mathematically certain that Jesus was Messiah. Thus, Christianity is validated.

What’s wrong with this picture?
It depends on an assumption that the Old Testament prophecies are infallible. Therefore it is still a question of faith. If it was so obvious, the Jews would have believed long ago.
 
The late Archbishop Fulton J Sheen references the messiah prophicies in one of his
famous talks. Lighthouse Catholic Media captured the talk in their True Meaning of
Christmas CD. It can still be purchased (Google it). Archbishop Sheen makes the
argument that human reason is an important part of our faith and can not be abandoned.
 
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