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Magenya
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Can anyone explain meaning of Mathew 16.23
Get behind me satin, trying to figure it out
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Get behind me satin, trying to figure it out
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BartholomewB
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Maybe this will help answer your question.
540. Jesus’ temptation reveals the way in which the Son of God is Messiah, contrary to the way Satan proposes to him and the way men wish to attribute to him.244 This is why Christ vanquished the Tempter for us: "For we have not a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tested as we are, yet without sinning."245 By the solemn forty days of Lent the Church unites herself each year to the mystery of Jesus in the desert.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P1L.HTM
540. Jesus’ temptation reveals the way in which the Son of God is Messiah, contrary to the way Satan proposes to him and the way men wish to attribute to him.244 This is why Christ vanquished the Tempter for us: "For we have not a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tested as we are, yet without sinning."245 By the solemn forty days of Lent the Church unites herself each year to the mystery of Jesus in the desert.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P1L.HTM
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Genesis315
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Jesus was telling Peter not to oppose His suffering (Satan meaning adversary), but instead to follow Him in it.
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pianistclare
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My go-to is Haydock’s commentary:
Ver. 23. Go after me, Satan.[4] The words may signify, begone from me; but out of respect due to the expositions of the ancient fathers, who would have these words to signify come after me, or follow me, I have put, with the Rheims translation, go after me. Satan is the same as an adversary: (Witham) and is here applied to Peter, because he opposed, out of mistaken zeal, Christ’s passion, without which the great work of man’s redemption could not be effected. Peter, however, unknowingly or innocently, raised an opposition against the will of God, against the glory of Jesus, against the redemption of mankind, and against the destruction of the devil’s kingdom. He did not understand that there was nothing more glorious than to make of one’s life a sacrifice to God. (Bible de Vence) — Thou dost not, i.e. thy judgment in this particular is not conformable with that of God. Hence our separated brethren conclude that Christ did not, in calling him the rock in the preceding verses, appoint him the solid and permanent foundation of his Church. This conclusion, however, is not true, because, as St. Augustine and theologians affirm, Peter could fall into error in points regarding morals and facts, though not in defining or deciding on points of faith. Moreover, St. Peter was not, as St. Jerome says, appointed the pillar of the Church till after Christ’s resurrection. (Tirinus) — And it was not till the night before Christ suffered that he said to Peter: Behold, Satan hath desired to have thee; but I have prayed for thee, that “thy faith fail not,” and thou being once converted confirm thy brethren. (Luke xxii. 31.) (Haydock)
Ver. 23. Go after me, Satan.[4] The words may signify, begone from me; but out of respect due to the expositions of the ancient fathers, who would have these words to signify come after me, or follow me, I have put, with the Rheims translation, go after me. Satan is the same as an adversary: (Witham) and is here applied to Peter, because he opposed, out of mistaken zeal, Christ’s passion, without which the great work of man’s redemption could not be effected. Peter, however, unknowingly or innocently, raised an opposition against the will of God, against the glory of Jesus, against the redemption of mankind, and against the destruction of the devil’s kingdom. He did not understand that there was nothing more glorious than to make of one’s life a sacrifice to God. (Bible de Vence) — Thou dost not, i.e. thy judgment in this particular is not conformable with that of God. Hence our separated brethren conclude that Christ did not, in calling him the rock in the preceding verses, appoint him the solid and permanent foundation of his Church. This conclusion, however, is not true, because, as St. Augustine and theologians affirm, Peter could fall into error in points regarding morals and facts, though not in defining or deciding on points of faith. Moreover, St. Peter was not, as St. Jerome says, appointed the pillar of the Church till after Christ’s resurrection. (Tirinus) — And it was not till the night before Christ suffered that he said to Peter: Behold, Satan hath desired to have thee; but I have prayed for thee, that “thy faith fail not,” and thou being once converted confirm thy brethren. (Luke xxii. 31.) (Haydock)
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Magenya
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Thank you, very much
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jcrichton
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Hi, St. Peter just stepped into it; he is the first to jump at anything Christ; so when Jesus speaks of his imminent Passion and Death, Peter jumps at it; ‘no, way, Lord!’ ‘We will not let this happen to you.’
Clearly, Satan’s plan (as with the “Temptation”) seeking to derail Christ’s Purpose (‘here comes the Lamb of God Who Takes Away the sin of the world’); it is the same temptation, dress a little differently: ‘go ahead Jesus, go off script; you are the Son of God, right?’
So Peter’s concern for Jesus physical wellbeing blinds him to the reality of Jesus as Isaiah’s Suffering Servant and as the God-that-Saves (the meaning of Jesus) by becoming man (Incarnate) in order to Save man through His Sacrifice on the cross (St. John 3:14-17).
Maran atha!
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Clearly, Satan’s plan (as with the “Temptation”) seeking to derail Christ’s Purpose (‘here comes the Lamb of God Who Takes Away the sin of the world’); it is the same temptation, dress a little differently: ‘go ahead Jesus, go off script; you are the Son of God, right?’
So Peter’s concern for Jesus physical wellbeing blinds him to the reality of Jesus as Isaiah’s Suffering Servant and as the God-that-Saves (the meaning of Jesus) by becoming man (Incarnate) in order to Save man through His Sacrifice on the cross (St. John 3:14-17).
Maran atha!
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Full steam ahead - d*mn the torpedoes -
Peter was trying to make Jesus second guess himself.
Jesus did not want anyone - being a obstacle to His mission.
Like when Peter said to Jesus - I will DIE with you ! All the disciples too !
Then he denied he even knew the wandering Jewish preacher -
Rooster - and he finally wept - bitterly. Wept and wept.
Peter was trying to make Jesus second guess himself.
Jesus did not want anyone - being a obstacle to His mission.
Like when Peter said to Jesus - I will DIE with you ! All the disciples too !
Then he denied he even knew the wandering Jewish preacher -
Rooster - and he finally wept - bitterly. Wept and wept.
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