Matt Slick and the Apostles

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guanophore said:
Well, if you want to feed into it, perhaps you can go to one of his media outlets, instead of bringing the argument here?
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One could say something similar about MANY threads on CAF. Aren’t most, if not all threads silly, redundant and nonconducive to one’s spiritual growth? Aren’t many, if not most threads that begin with a question or complaint better off answered elsewhere, (like a priest, deacon, SD etc.) rather than bringing it here?
If your answers are “no” you need to open your eyes and do a search.
 
No, just a couple I found online after people were talking about it here, but nobody’s ever given me one. DH never even heard of Jack Chick.
 
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He doesn’t make millions. He lives down the road from me. He is in need of prayers and seems to have much pride and anger in his life.
 
Hoosier-Daddy said:
He doesn’t make millions. He lives down the road from me. He is in need of prayers and seems to have much pride and anger in his life.
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Does he make money off of his website? If not, what does he do for income?
 
I’m not privy to his tax returns. He is not wealthy. He is a lot of things. My opinion if him is not great. However, to accuse him of living high off the hog because of CARM is not accurate. Does that background in the video look like trump tower? No, but those books are definitely there for effect. Have you read the testimony of his daughter who left his faith?
 
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Hope1960 said:
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My answer is stay away from Matt Slick. His garbage is barely worth the effort it took to type this comment.
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Isn’t his brand of Christianity like Jack Chick’s? I’ve heard a lot about Chick here but have never personally read any of his tracts.
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Don’t. Chick was a charlatan. Even my anti-Catholic Presbyterian wife would think his descriptions of Catholicism are over-the-top tin-foil-hat nonsense.
 
StRaphaelPray4Us said:
I’m not sure how bank tellers are trained today, but in the past, they spent hours handling authentic currency. That was done so they would be able to recognize counterfeit money when they handled or saw it. That was done because there are so many different kinds of counterfeit out there, it was smarter and easier to immerse the trainee in the real thing so they could spot the fake one instead of trying to train them by showing them all kinds of fake money. I feel this is kind of what is going on here. Instead of immersing herself in real Catholic teaching, the OP is browsing about youtube looking at counterfeit things and then getting herself confused and upset over fake things, instead of building up her knowledge of what is good, holy, and true.
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I looked at the video, for the first time might I add, yesterday or the day before because somebody said something on CAF about them. You, know, like how many people have come upon and read Chick tracts. HTH.
 
Hope1960 said:
One could say something similar about MANY threads on CAF. Aren’t most, if not all threads silly, redundant and nonconducive to one’s spiritual growth? Aren’t many, if not most threads that begin with a question or complaint better off answered elsewhere, (like a priest, deacon, SD etc.) rather than bringing it here?
If your answers are “no” you need to open your eyes and do a search.
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I will, sadly, concede that the new CAF is not like the old, and I do find it tedious that so many of the same topics are posted and answered, over and over again. It is also true that some people here post questions better directed to a priest or spiritual director.

However, the fact that others are not willing to search for answers that have already been posted does not mean you cannot!
Hope1960 said:
No, just a couple I found online after people were talking about it here, but nobody’s ever given me one. DH never even heard of Jack Chick.
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I would certainly not encourage you to look at them, either. They are even heartbreaking for people who are not Catholic, but have basic respect for Catholic faith.
Hope1960 said:
You do realize that practically anyone can post here, AND you have the option to skip over my posts, don’t you?
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Yes, but do you really want to be one of the “practically anyone” who is bringing anti-Catholic ideas here and asking Catholics to answer to it? It would be different if the questions were really yours, but they are not posted as coming from you, just some material you found somewhere…
Hope1960 said:
AND you have the option to skip over my posts, don’t you?
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Sadly, one of the features we lost with the new system was the ability to make certain users invisible. It did cut down on the frustration at times.

I am not necessarily interested in skipping your posts, as you may have some authentic questions to pose.
StRaphaelPray4Us said:
I feel this is kind of what is going on here. Instead of immersing herself in real Catholic teaching, the OP is browsing about youtube looking at counterfeit things and then getting herself confused and upset over false teachings, instead of building up her knowledge of what is good, holy, and true.
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It is true that it is impossible to recognize what is counterfeit when one has not had sufficient contact with the real. But I thought I understood the OP to say that further study of Catholic faith was not the goal?
 
Hope1960 said:
One could say something similar about MANY threads on CAF. Aren’t most, if not all threads silly, redundant and nonconducive to one’s spiritual growth?
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I would say that depends on the intent of the person that starts the thread.

If they are starting the thread to have an actual back and forth conversation with the intent to learn something from the conversation then it definitely could be conducive to their spiritual growth. I have lost count of the thank you’s I have received from simply pointing someone to a document from the Church.

Now if they start a thread to see how many people they can rile up with giving nothing more than a simple response or changing the subject through out the entire thread then I believe they themselves have no desire for spiritual growth and are just bored.

Basically, a person desiring spiritual growth would ask more questions of the topic at hand from the people that give them responses.

God Bless
 
MT1926 said:
Now if they start a thread to see how many people they can rile up with giving nothing more than a simple response or changing the subject through out the entire thread then I believe they themselves have no desire for spiritual growth and are just bored.
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That’s what you think I’m doing? I’ve been a member here for maybe, 15 years.
 
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Hope, I think you’re missing the point that we’re speaking from a charitable standpoint of concern about your spiritual good and that of others.

People don’t want to just skip your topics because they are concerned not only that you yourself might leave the faith, but also you posting these things might lead others away from the faith if they are not answered. Many people read the threads on here and we are concerned for them too, not just yourself.

Overall, the whole pattern becomes less productive over time. For you to respond with “You do realize I’m allowed to post here” or whatever, is correct, but it also seems like you’re missing the point of what several people are trying to tell you. I try to give you the benefit of the doubt regarding your motives, but sometimes I too have wondered if all your posts are in good faith.

I will leave the thread now as I do not wish to turn this into an argument.

God bless and I hope at some point you are able to make a decision about which faith you will follow and then go forward in that faith in a confident way.
 
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Tis_Bearself said:
I try to give you the benefit of the doubt regarding your motives, but sometimes I too have wondered if all your posts are in good faith.
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I doubt that an insincere person would’ve posted here this long.
 
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