Matthew 16 and the Old Testament

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May God be with you!

I need the Old Testament Scripture in Isaiah and I believe there is one other place (Psalms?) where it refers to the Keys of the Kingdom and giving authority to another.

I need this to help my fundementalist/evangelical co-worker see the truth of the Papacy in Scripture and Peters supremacy.

God bless you!
 
Donna_P said:
May God be with you!

I need the Old Testament Scripture in Isaiah and I believe there is one other place (Psalms?) where it refers to the Keys of the Kingdom and giving authority to another.

I need this to help my fundementalist/evangelical co-worker see the truth of the Papacy in Scripture and Peters supremacy.

God bless you!
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Isaiah 22:20-22:
On that day I will summon my servant Eliakim, son of Hilkiah; I will clothe him with your robe, and gird him with your sash, and give over to him your authority. He shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah. I will place the key of the House of David on his shoulder; when he opens, no one shall shut, when he shuts, no one shall open.
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a) In the first place, Eliakim is inheriting an office. Just as the Papacy is an office, which would mean when one leaves, another shall take his place.
b) Notice the “he shall be a father…” Pope is Italian for Papa, Father.
c) He gets the keys to the House of David, or Israel. The New Kingdom that Jesus speaks of is the New Israel.
d) opens and shuts clearly points us to binding and loosing.
 
Could you also be talking about Revelation ch. 3:7?
"To the angel of the church in Philadelphia, write this: " 'The holy one, the true, who holds the key of David, who opens and no one shall close, who closes and no one shall open, says this:
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The Isaiah text backfires because just as Eliakim will fail, so will the papacy as this proof text goes.

20 "In that day I will summon my servant, Eliakim son of Hilkiah. 21 I will clothe him with your robe and fasten your sash around him and hand your authority over to him. He will be a father to those who live in Jerusalem and to the house of Judah. 22 I will place on his shoulder the key to the house of David; what he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. 23 I will drive him like a peg into a firm place; he will be a seat [a] of honor for the house of his father. 24 All the glory of his family will hang on him: its offspring and offshoots—all its lesser vessels, from the bowls to all the jars.

25 “In that day,” declares the LORD Almighty, “the peg driven into the firm place will give way; it will be sheared off and will fall, and the load hanging on it will be cut down.” The LORD has spoken.

As for the Revelation referrences, they refer to Jesus alone as having the keys.

Revelation 1:18
I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.

Revelation 3:7
To the Church in Philadelphia ] "To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write:These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open.

This text may be a better starting point,

Isaiah 51

1 "Listen to me, you who pursue righteousness
and who seek the LORD :
Look to the rock from which you were cut
and to the quarry from which you were hewn;
2 look to Abraham, your father,
and to Sarah, who gave you birth.
When I called him he was but one,
and I blessed him and made him many.

Eph 2:20

But, if he has read any of the church fathers, then he will know that the sheppard teaches that the Son of God is the Rock that the church was founded on.

I was you, I would emphasize Eph 2:20
 
2 Corinthians 5:20 (New International Version)

We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God.

build on the office of an ambassador.
 
Daniel_Marsh said:
The Isaiah text backfires because just as Eliakim will fail, so will the papacy as this proof text goes.

20 "In that day I will summon my servant, Eliakim son of Hilkiah. 21 I will clothe him with your robe and fasten your sash around him and hand your authority over to him. He will be a father to those who live in Jerusalem and to the house of Judah. 22 I will place on his shoulder the key to the house of David; what he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. 23 I will drive him like a peg into a firm place; he will be a seat [a] of honor for the house of his father. 24 All the glory of his family will hang on him: its offspring and offshoots—all its lesser vessels, from the bowls to all the jars.

25 “In that day,” declares the LORD Almighty, “the peg driven into the firm place will give way; it will be sheared off and will fall, and the load hanging on it will be cut down.” The LORD has spoken.
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Daniel, I think you’re a little wrong here. I’m pretty sure you’re familiar with OT Typology, aren’t you? Adam pre-figured Christ, but was incomplete. Moses and David were Types of Christ, and they were both flawed. Jesus was the completion of this Typology.

Well, it’s pretty clear that this scene in Isaiah is a Type of the Papacy in the NT. Just as the High Priest, Eliakim, will fall, we are told that the New Church will last.
J***esus said to him in reply, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, *and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
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As you can see, no where in Matthew is Peter told of his peg falling.
 
NotWorthy said:
Daniel, I think you’re a little wrong here. I’m pretty sure you’re familiar with OT Typology, aren’t you? Adam pre-figured Christ, but was incomplete. Moses and David were Types of Christ, and they were both flawed. Jesus was the completion of this Typology.

Well, it’s pretty clear that this scene in Isaiah is a Type of the Papacy in the NT. Just as the High Priest, Eliakim, will fall, we are told that the New Church will last.

As you can see, no where in Matthew is Peter told of his peg falling.
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Peter failed Christ–he denied him three times–but the risen Christ told him to feed/tend his sheep three times as well at Peter’s confession of love. At Christ’s crucifixion, the Church scattered, but they were brought back together by the Lord.
 
st_felicity said:
Peter failed Christ–he denied him three times–but the risen Christ told him to feed/tend his sheep three times as well at Peter’s confession of love. At Christ’s crucifixion, the Church scattered, but they were brought back together by the Lord.
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Good point!

Peter failed Christ, but did he lose the Papacy because of that. Of course not, because Christ commissioned Peter to feed the sheep after the denials.

But of Eliakim’s peg:
25 “In that day,” declares the LORD Almighty, "the peg driven into the firm place will give way; it will be sheared off and will fall, and the load hanging on it will be cut down."
The peg gave away, like Peter, but it was sheared off and fell. Peter, instead was forgiven and then commissioned again.

The load (the Kingdom of Israel) hanging on it will be cut down.
The load (the Church) hanging on Peter’s peg will never be prevailed upon by the gates of Hell.
 
The promise to Eliakim is not exactly the same. God does say his will fail. But, when Christ talks to Peter, He promises the gates of Hell will not prevail. That’s the difference. The original failed, but the Christian version will last until the end 👍
 
Genesis315 said:
The promise to Eliakim is not exactly the same. God does say his will fail. But, when Christ talks to Peter, He promises the gates of Hell will not prevail. That’s the difference. The original failed, but the Christian version will last until the end 👍
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This is true of all Typology!!!
 
NotWorthy, you make an excellent point regarding Adam/Christ etc.

In addition to this point, one must also bear in mind that Christ was not quoting Isaiah exactly here, as we see that he does elsewhere in the Gospel. No - he is merely alluding to this passage. This does not detract from its significance, or the fact that Isaiah 22 undoubtededly lies behind Jesus’ statement.

As a result of this allusion, it is actually Jesus himself who leads us to understand how far Isaiah 22 applies to the New Testament context. With all things considered (the nature of the Church as seen in the New Testament, the function of the Petrine and episcopal offices and so forth) it is clear that Jesus is making use of the image of this ancient Prime ministerial office in the new context. He does not directly quote so as to predict some complete New Testament prophetic re-enactment of the Shebna/Eliakim incident.
 
where do you get the idea from the text that Jesus was alluding to the Isaiah text?
 
Daniel, where do you get the point that its not alluding to Isaiah.

Isiah 22:
I will place the key of the House of David on his shoulder; when he opens, no one shall shut, when he shuts, no one shall open.
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Matthew 16:
*** I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven***. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
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In both quotes, you have the keys to the Kingdom which is of course, honor and authority.In both quotes you have the power to makes laws and rescind laws.
 
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