May 10, 2008 - Youth Gay Pride Parade in Boston

[leftistdestroye]

myndsplyntur;3693499]

Are you being for real? I honestly cannot believe you said that. How judgemental of you to pass assumptions upon a whole gender or class of people based on the actions of a few you disagree with.

Yes, I am for real and I did say that and believe it. Those “few” had the power to shut down free speech, as described by those same few.(liberals, feminists) I am sorry that I said that commnet because it would likely lead into a discussion on feminism, which, we don’t need to get into on this thread. I would gladly, and have done so, gone into detail in another thread on feminism.

I don’t understand where you are getting your whole, “silence of free speech” comment, maybe you can explain??

Certainly. The definition of “frree speech”, as defined by the likes of those protestors, is this:

Everyone is granted unlimited freedom to say whatever they like, whenever they like to.  That freedom is protected by the governmnet.  No topic is forbidden, as long as it agrees with us(the protestors) and it comes from the minority opinion.  If you are religious, white, or male, you must be limited as to what you can say.

My definition of “free speech” is this:

The GOVERNMENT cannot silence political dissent. The first amendment is a contract between the government and it’s people.

In that video, those protestors shut down this anti gay speaker. They stifled his free speech, as it is defined by them. That makes them hypocritical and tyrannical. And yes, a tyranny of a minority is possibe. (See: Sunis in Iraq & Saddamn)

Why are you so outraged? Because people are different from you? Because their beliefs aren’t aligned with yours?

Could be part of it, just as they are angry because their beliefs aren’t aligned with mine. I also believe that they are trying to get what does not belong to them, gay marriage. Also that this gay “acceptance” thing will lead us to socialism.

I am mad that those people thought that they had a right to crawl through the windows yelling and screaming, with the intent of silencing that speaker! And they did!

If they as members of our society can do that, then WE, as members of a society can do the same thing, and it’s high time that we fought back!

I am angry that my side did nothing, but let those people shut them down in the name of “we’re better than that” That we are a spineless bunch.

 

[Tracy10]

I have to admit that while I do feel that being gay is connected with genes, I’m extremely repulsed by this sort of thing.

What would gays have said if every year, heterosexuals had a “heterosexual pride” parade? I can assure you they would’ve hollered that this parade was held only for the purpose of promoting hatred against gays.

I feel the reverse is true when “gay” pride parades are held. In so doing, hatred is promoted against heterosexuals.

No parade should ever be held to promote pride in one group, while in effect demeaning pride in another by eliminating its name as being “equally worth of pride.”

The high schools’ Gay/Straight Alliances participate. Youth pride parade on the Boston Common and transgender prom at Boston City Hall are the two main events.

2007…

massresistance.org/docs/events07/youthpride07/index.html

 

[v3orb]

I have to admit that while I do feel that being gay is connected with genes, I’m extremely repulsed by this sort of thing.

What would gays have said if every year, heterosexuals had a “heterosexual pride” parade? I can assure you they would’ve hollered that this parade was held only for the purpose of promoting hatred against gays.

I feel the reverse is true when “gay” pride parades are held. In so doing, hatred is promoted against heterosexuals.

No parade should ever be held to promote pride in one group, while in effect demeaning pride in another by eliminating its name as being “equally worth of pride.”

Every day is heterosexual pride day. At the supermarket, a husband and wife can kiss and be called cute. A husband and a husband are called repulsive and asked to leave. Gay pride doesn’t engender hate towards heterosexuals. Heterosexuals engender hate from gays by themselves. No help required from gay people. Lets not blame it on the homos, ok?

 

[Kevin42]

I have to admit that while I do feel that being gay is connected with genes, I’m extremely repulsed by this sort of thing.

What would gays have said if every year, heterosexuals had a “heterosexual pride” parade? I can assure you they would’ve hollered that this parade was held only for the purpose of promoting hatred against gays.

I feel the reverse is true when “gay” pride parades are held. In so doing, hatred is promoted against heterosexuals.

No parade should ever be held to promote pride in one group, while in effect demeaning pride in another by eliminating its name as being “equally worth of pride.”

I have to agree that these “pride events” are very repulsive. However, I think one must consider that those who put on and participate these events do so no to promote hatred against other groups. Instead, (especially for homosexuals) I think the issue is that they have been shunned and felt like they are abnormal for so long that this is more about giving them a chance to appreciate who they are completly without the projections that much of society casts upon this.

Fortunately, for those of us within the walls of our loving, and ever wise Mother Church, we know that despite our abnormalities or short-comings, we are not defined by them, but having been baptized into Jesus Christ. Therefore, we have become adopted children of God who are loved beyond what we can imagine. That’s why we don’t need silly “pride” events like this.

Hope that wasn’t just me rambling…it is late and I am getting rather tired, so forgive me if it is:blush: .

 

[Tracy10]

Gays aren’t the only ones who encounter this. How about having a bald pride parade, or a “short-people” pride parade, a “fat pride” parade, a “race-pride” parade or a pride parade for the disabled and/or poor?"

Why is only one group in society allotted a parade in the name of pride?

In all fairness, the only PRIDE parade that should be permitted is one that allows ALL of societies groups to feel proud about themselves, including heterosexuals.

All in all, the name should be changed to GENERAL PRIDE parade and everyone who feels discriminated against and/or wants to exhibit pride in himself should be permitted to join the parade.

QUOTE=Kevin42;3811142]I have to agree that these “pride events” are very repulsive. However, I think one must consider that those who put on and participate these events do so no to promote hatred against other groups. Instead, (especially for homosexuals) I think the issue is that they have been shunned and felt like they are abnormal for so long that this is more about giving them a chance to appreciate who they are completly without the projections that much of society casts upon this.

Fortunately, for those of us within the walls of our loving, and ever wise Mother Church, we know that despite our abnormalities or short-comings, we are not defined by them, but having been baptized into Jesus Christ. Therefore, we have become adopted children of God who are loved beyond what we can imagine. That’s why we don’t need silly “pride” events like this.

Hope that wasn’t just me rambling…it is late and I am getting rather tired, so forgive me if it is:blush: .

 

[Kevin42]

Gays aren’t the only ones who encounter this. How about having a bald pride parade, or a “short-people” pride parade, a “fat pride” parade, a “race-pride” parade or a pride parade for the disabled and/or poor?"

Why is only one group in society allotted a parade in the name of pride?

Well I am quite sure that racial groups do have pride events. There are cruises for overweight people only. There are special Olympics for the disabled. Furthermore, I do not think that anyone is stopping any group from having a “pride” event.

I don’t think that we are going to convert active homosexuals by trivializing their problem, and how they feel they are perceived by society at large. Like I said, I am not defending their actions (and I find these events very distasteful as well), but I am just saying that in my opinion, homosexuals need to be dealt with gently and compassionately when being spoken to about Truth.

 

[Tracy10]

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Interesting comment, but you know that was the case somewhere in BC (can’t remember the name of the place anymore) a couple of years ago. Some guy approached city hall to sponsor a heterosexual pride day and it was rejected.

Hey, how are you guys putting these quotes in yellow? I’ve slipped up somehow.**

 

[Jesus_N_Cherie]

Leftisdestroye…Woah buddy.

Calm down. People are allowed to assmble and talk about their ideas. If they want to promote tolerance and understanding through a youth gay parade, that is theit choice. If the parents had a problem with it, they could keep their children home.

Your comment about mass numbers silencing the right wing…do you realize how much larger the religious right is than those who promote equal rights for GLBT? If they are doing a better job of convincing everyone that their views are the more proper–blame the right wing. More and more youth are growing tolerant of GLBT. Perhaps it is because their ideology is the correct one(as I believe). However, as it is America, everyone should be able to, and usually are, speak their mind.

First off, your suggestion of violence is misplaced. If I am misinterpreting you, I apologize.

Secondly, marriage is not a christian tradition–it is from far before the rise of christianity. The morals of christianity alone have no sway in the permissibility of marriage as marriage was not a christian invention.

Freedom of Speech. you are allowed to say gays are an abomination, they are allowed to say the religious right are intolerant bigots. Freedom of speech. They can say mostly anything they want. Do not listen to rap if you do not like it.

You are allowed to try to work for changes in society–but so is everyone else. Also, your version of morality, decency, etc may not be the norm.

You rant towards the end and I lost thread of the argument.

Best,
Matt

You missed the earlier post by the OP. He has a website posted which showed the Liberals physically SILENCING the person who got up to disagree with them. They were using violence to silence the opinion of someone who was voicing his opinion. The liberals/gay rights people aren’t for tolerance. They are for censoring everyone who disagrees with them.

Note that I am not talking about all homosexuals. I am talking about those “in your face with my sexual hedonism”, and you have to look at it because I am chasing you and your children down so that you can’t escape it people. And there are many out there.

 

[gmags2003]

Freedom of speech is granted for those whose views are not in line with yours.

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I am spoken with a number of Catholic youth gay-rights supporters from Boston. I have debated with them many a time. I feel bad though because they’ve fallen away from the Church because of my views. They call me a radical and then go on to say that I’m the reason why they don’t believe in so and so.

 

[Dale_M]

They call me a radical and then go on to say that I’m the reason why they don’t believe in so and so.

No one is responsible for how an individual feels, except for themself.

The people you refer to aren’t taking responsibility for their own feelings. Don’t be conned - they are the ones who are being irresponsible. They may object to the views you presented, but their reactions to those views are under their own control. They didn’t need to leave the Church - it was their choice.