Meaning of LDS communion

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Lemuel said:
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Consecrated=holy?
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Basically. It’s been blessed for the healing of the sick.
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Is it believed that the blessing imparts an attribute of sanctification to the oil?
 
Here’s what the handbook says. Make of it what you will:

One or more Melchizedek Priesthood holders must consecrate olive oil before it is used to anoint the sick or afflicted. No other oil may be used. To consecrate oil, a priesthood holder:
  1. Holds an open container of olive oil.
  2. Addresses Heavenly Father.
  3. States that he is acting by the authority of the Melchizedek Priesthood.
  4. Consecrates the oil (not the container) and sets it apart for anointing and blessing the sick and afflicted.
  5. Closes in the name of Jesus Christ.
    Members should not take consecrated oil internally or apply it on afflicted parts of the body.
 
No, the blessing does not make the oil holy. The blessing sets it apart for the healing of the sick. Likewise the oil does not make the person holy, nor does the oil heal a person, their faith in Jesus Christ does.

Here is a good statement on both this topic and the sacrament:
Throughout the ages, symbols—physical objects, substances, and actions—have been used to represent sacred powers and practices. When we are baptized, water is the physical property, or symbol, involved in the ordinance. The water does not cleanse us from sin; it is the faith and repentance that precede our baptism that allow God to grant a remission of our sins. When we partake of the sacrament, bread and water symbolize the body and blood of the Savior. There is no redeeming value in the bread and water—only in what they represent, which is of infinite worth to us. So it is with administration to the sick. We apply hands and oil, the physical touch and the tangible substance, but the hands and the oil do not heal. It is faith in Jesus Christ and the power of the priesthood that heals. I Have a Question
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Sure, a person can consecrate themselves and so begin to become holy. For example in the same guide to the scripture you referred to there is this verse, “consecrate yourselves to day to the Lord” Ex. 32:29. But a thing does not become holy by blessing it.
 
Bagels, donuts and cinnamon rolls used for communion in the Mormon church?😮:roll_eyes:
 
It’s important to differentiate sacred symbols from the profane. For instance, the olive oil is set apart for healing the sick. That same oil is not also used for cooking chicken. To do so would polute the symbol in our minds.
 
Are you saying Mormons don’t use olive oil at all for cooking?
 
No, I’m just saying that olive oil for healing the sick is set apart for that purpose only. We use cooking oil like anyone else.
 
SchrodingersCatBoy said:
During a Passover Seder (the Last Supper) CHRIST knew HE would be sacrificed for the Sake of all Humanity, so the Symbolism of the Bread was the Resemblance of his Body being broken by the Centurions.

The Grape Juice that JESUS of Nazareth passed around represented his Blood that was spilled in the Garden of Gethsemane when Blood poured from every single Pore in his Body

. The Atonement started right there when the Stress of every single Headache, Birth Pain, Toothache, depressed Moment, suicidal Feeling, Panic or Anxiety Attack, broken Bone, Heart Attack, Stroke, cancerous Lesion, and every Pain and suffering Moment imaginable that anyone and everyone had gone through and would go through and will go through in the History and the Future of Humankind passed through the SAVIOUR at that Moment.

CHRIST suffered everything that we have gone through. CHRIST is the utter Empathiser and Sympathiser of Humanity. HE knows exactly how all of you feel and will feel and had felt throughout your entire Lives.

Because HE sacrificed for us, when we partake of the Sacrament, we solemnly during Sacrament Meeting (First Hour) pray to HEAVENLY FATHER that we be absolved of our Sins that performed over the past Week, and ask to be forgiven in the Name of JESUS CHRIST.

Water is used because our homemade Wine was poisoned by the Protestants and Apostates and anti-Christians. If it is blessed properly by someone who holds the Aaronic Priesthood, it can be Water, Grape Juice, or “Wine of your own make.”

It is about the Atonement of CHRIST.
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This is certainly not what the bible states about the passion of Christ. The unleavened bread used was not in resemblance of His body. It was the bread traditionally used by the Jews at the Seder meal. Also the body of Christ was NOT broken by the centurions. Jesus also did not use grape juice, He used wine. The blood of Christ was the blood spilled at His crucifixion, not the blood spilled in the garden. I think you need to read the Gospels again to get your facts straight.

Jesus Christ died to redeem our sins, the sins of the world. He died to save us from ourselves. When we suffer He gives us strength and consolations to get through the suffering.

The last part of your post is nothing more than an excuse. The Protestants “poisoned” your homemade wine?
 
SchrodingersCatBoy said:
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Horton:
The last part of your post is nothing more than an excuse. The Protestants “poisoned” your homemade wine?
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I used to be a Mormon/Latter-day Saint, and I know the History of my Church far better than you. The Wine and Grape Juice we purchased from others WAS poisoned, and some Saints died. You do not know our History. And from what I understand, JESUS’s Legs were broken, and his Side was pierced. And I never said the Blood that poured from every Pore in HIS Body was the Blood of the Sacrament or Communion as you call it. JESUS just knew his Blood would be spilled during the Crucifixion.
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Half a mile from my home, is a Mormon historical site. It has a large vineyard. A couple of blocks away is a site of a store that sold ice cream out of the front of the store and beer out the back of the store.

Mormons in Brigham Young’s time had a different view than Mormons of today. They used wine of their own making in the Mormon Sacrament. Well heck, Brigham Young had a whiskey or two with friends.

Mormons of today are fed incomplete information, and call that “history”, and then think they have built a defense against truth.
 
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Poisoned wine doesn’t explain Mormons using water. Your D&C states clearly that wine of your own making should be used.
 
SchrodingersCatBoy said:
I used to be a Mormon/Latter-day Saint, and I know the History of my Church far better than you. The Wine and Grape Juice we purchased from others WAS poisoned, and some Saints died. You do not know our History. And from what I understand, JESUS’s Legs were broken, and his Side was pierced. And I never said the Blood that poured from every Pore in HIS Body was the Blood of the Sacrament or Communion as you call it. JESUS just knew his Blood would be spilled during the Crucifixion.
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SchrodingersCatBoy said:
Symbolism of the Bread was the Resemblance of his Body being broken by the Centurions. The Grape Juice that JESUS of Nazareth passed around represented his Blood that was spilled in the Garden of Gethsemane when Blood poured from every single Pore in his Body.
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Actually you did say that. The bolding in both quotes shows you did.

If you have questions on what really happened at the Last Supper try MT 26:26-29, Luke 22:14-20, or Mark 14:22-25. Those verses will tell you exactly what Jesus meant.

The Blood and Water.
31Now since it was preparation day, in order that the bodies might not remain on the cross on the sabbath, for the sabbath day of that week was a solemn one, the Jews asked Pilate that their legs be broken and they be taken down. 32 So the soldiers came and broke the legs of the first and then of the other one who was crucified with Jesus.
33 But when they came to Jesus and saw that he was already dead, they did not break his legs,
34 but one soldier thrust his lance into his side, and immediately blood and water flowed out.

If you have read so many bibles you would have seen this truth clearly.

BTW: I’m a female.
 
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