Meat on Friday

[Booter]

Ok I need some advice on whether or not I’ve done something wrong here. During the friday’s in lent, a Catholic co-worker and myself have been ordering sushi on fridays for lunch. We don’t hang out outside work, but from what I know he’s kind of a CINO. Anyway, I always order the food in advance b/c i have a scheduled break. But, today he decided he wanted something with meat in it for the first time.

I made it clear a few days earlier that I don’t eat meat on friday’s and he basically said he doesn’t care about it and he eats meat. All that being said, do I commit a sin by ordering a Catholic (albeit Cafeteria) something with meat in it today? It’s not a situation where he forgot or something like that, it’s just sadly he doesn’t care 2 much. I try to be a good example and stuff, but should i have refused to order food today and on future Lenten Friday’s if he wants something with meat. One side is saying that I aided and abetted a sinner while my other side is saying he knew what he was doing, and all i did was order food. He’s not really someone I talk to outside work so i don’t know what i should do.
Your thoughts?

 

[DJgang]

Not your sin…he’s a grown man, knows that he should be abstaining from meat on Fridays.

God bless. :byzsoc:

 

[Onyx88]

you shouldn’t care what someone else does ~ but i would tell him the reasons why you abstain from meat on fridays ~ a good thing to say is ~ have you ever seen the movie the passion of the christ ? that’s why i don’t eat meat on fridays. ~~~ i’m sure you’ve seen it.

louise

 

[Booter]

I understand…I tend to be scrupulous at times but I try…I feel like my worst sins are sins of omission…not speaking up when i should, not doing the right thing out of fear of people’s reactions, etc…I try to be the best i can be myself and hope that’s enough…I feel like i need to do a better job at performing spiritual works of mercy when the opportunites arise…thanks for your replies though

 

[Amaranth]

Actually, you may be surprised to know that breaking the tradition (yes tradition, not requirement) of eating meat is not a sin.

Not eating meat is a personal choice, similar to what you choose to give up during lent, it is a personal sacrifice. So rest assured, you are not guilty of anything here, as it is his choice to not eat on Fridays, just as it is your choice to not eat meat.

 

[Mel_Stones]

Actually, you may be surprised to know that breaking the tradition (yes tradition, not requirement) of eating meat is not a sin.

Not eating meat is a personal choice, similar to what you choose to give up during lent, it is a personal sacrifice. So rest assured, you are not guilty of anything here, as it is his choice to not eat on Fridays, just as it is your choice to not eat meat.

Abstaining from meat on Lenten Fridays is still mandatory. On Fridays outside of Lent, it is optional.

Is Friday Penance Required?

Thus we conclude that the American bishops have exercised their competence, later acknowledged by canon 1253 of the 1983 Code of Canon Law, to “determine more precisely” the observance of abstinence by restricting the obligation to do it to a few days a year (Ash Wednesday, the non-solemnity Fridays of Lent, and Good Friday—the last being part of the Triduum rather than Lent) and by recommending the continued practice of abstinence and other penances on other Fridays.

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Must we abstain from meat on the Fridays of Advent? - The U.S. required that the food we abstain from be meat.

During Lent can you eat meat at sundown Friday? - The apologist never points out that abstaining isn’t required.

 

[puzzleannie]

OkYour thoughts?

like every other objectively sinful situation: intent, intent, intent. Did you intend do deliberately flout the Church’s discipline? No? no sin.

rule no 2–did you deliberately with full knowledge, capacity and intent lead another person into sin? no? no sin.

all this anguish is unneccesary and damaging to your spiritual health and to the spirit and purpose of pentitential practices.

 

[baylee]

Abstaining from meat on Lenten Fridays is still mandatory.

And apparently not doing so could constitute a **mortal **sin (if it meets the three criteria of course).

So, in other words, a Catholic could go to Hell if he/she has no other unrepentant sins on his/her soul but chose not to eat meat one Friday in Lent.

 

[Mel_Stones]

And apparently not doing so could constitute a **mortal **sin (if it meets the three criteria of course).

So, in other words, a Catholic could go to Hell if he/she has no other unrepentant sins on his/her soul but chose not to eat meat one Friday in Lent.

Did you mean to say “chose TO eat meat one Friday in Lent”?

Yes, not following the directives of the Church constitutes grave matter so if knowledge and intent are fulfilled, eating meat on a Lenten Friday is a mortal sin. And yes, someone who, with no other unrepentant sins, choses to eat meat one Friday in Lent will go to Hell. Any mortal sin on one’s soul is a ticket to Hell - why should this be any different? The person has full knowledge and intent that they are committing grave matter - they know what they are doing and the consequences of those actions.
But instead of the “so I won’t go to Hell” perspective, why don’t we take the “so I obey the Church Christ set up for me to follow” perspective and do as we are told?

Meat On Lenten Fridays: A Mortal Sin?

 

[baylee]

Did you mean to say “chose TO eat meat one Friday in Lent”?

Yes, not following the directives of the Church constitutes grave matter so if knowledge and intent are fulfilled, eating meat on a Lenten Friday is a mortal sin. And yes, someone who, with no other unrepentant sins, choses to eat meat one Friday in Lent will go to Hell. Any mortal sin on one’s soul is a ticket to Hell - why should this be any different? The person has full knowledge and intent that they are committing grave matter - they know what they are doing and the consequences of those actions.
But instead of the “so I won’t go to Hell” perspective, why don’t we take the “so I obey the Church Christ set up for me to follow” perspective and do as we are told?

Meat On Lenten Fridays: A Mortal Sin?

Actually, even better, do it because we want to because we love Christ…not because the Church classifies it as grave matter.

 

[Mel_Stones]

Actually, even better, do it because we want to because we love Christ…not because the Church classifies it as grave matter.

That is an even better perspective.

How to view things is on my mind because my 4th grade RE class always says “so I don’t get in trouble” and I’m trying to get them beyond that.