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chosen_people
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I’m afraid you may have missed the gist of all those posters who so vehemently feel that it is permissible and even moral to carry out an act unwished for, repugnant to our monotheistic beliefs and so connected with Catholic persecution of the Jews.There is no doubt Polish antisemitism existed, particularly between the years of 1918 and 1946, in which some of the Catholic clergy, including at least one notable bishop and local priests, were implicated and even led the charge. Jewish children were not allowed to attend school with other Polish children, Jewish businesses were boycotted, violent pogroms took place, and Jews were not welcomed back to their homeland after the War. Hundreds of Jews were murdered in cold blood by Poles. The Jedwabne and Kielce massacres are blights in Polish history. The Polish people were made to fear the Jews as Marxist Communists, and the Soviet Union became more of a threat to them than Germany. It is still amazing to me that some of the Polish people adopted tactics similar to those of the Nazis, since the latter despised the Poles almost as much as they did the Jews. Evidently, the Jews–as so often in their history–became the scapegoats.
HOWEVER, there is another, parallel Polish history, which involves many rural Polish families who shielded Jews from the Nazis, sometimes at the cost of their own lives, as well as a more pro-Jewish attitude in the urban centers of Poland at the time. This history too has been documented. Moreover, the Church’s shameful lack of response to the Polish massacres has a flip side, revealed in several important books on the topic of the Vatican’s protection of hundreds of Jews from their Nazi pursuers. There is much controversy surrounding Pope Pius, but most scholars find him to be more of a benefactor toward the Jews who were fleeing Nazi persecution, than a Nazi collaborator. We must look at both sides of Polish history.
Insofar as the baptism issue is concerned, I made my feelings clear about this in prior posts. I would be upset if my child were baptized, for the same reasons as you. But to compare, directly or indirectly, a person who baptizes a Jewish child–with good but misguided intentions, in my view-- to those who murdered Jewish children, is wrong. We should NEVER forget the injustices of the past, but we MUST move forward as well, if there is to be any hope of progress in this world for all of us. Otherwise, we will always label ourselves as victims and other people as persecutors.
You’re a Jew, they don’t care what you think, you have no right as a Jew to your beliefs or to make these decisions. These decisions are the their sole prerogative because you, as a Jew, are either too stupid or too stubborn to understands what every right minded person knows.
If the baby is baptized and recovers they no doubt would also argue, as in Mortara, that the child should be removed from their Jewish home to grow up a Christian now that he or she has been baptized. In this regard look at the 1946 order of Pope Pius XII and the non reunifiction of Jewish children rescued by the Church to their Jewish families, thus cutting them off forever from the Jewish people and Judaism.