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What of the distinction of Padre Pio and soul reading.
Being able to tell you when the last time you where in confession. What sins you had committed. What can anyone say about this gift that Father Pio had ?
Thanks for mentioning this. I would have to imagine it was a form of being a medium, or some sort of ESP. He is not the only one who had similar gifts.

I can say one time I went to confession when I was going home from a local hospital after an appointment. I thought; “well here is a chance to go without having to wait until the weekend.” I went to the parish office and asked to see a priest, and I knew nothing of the parish, only that they had daily confessions.

Long story short I was shown the “traditional confessional” and there I waited in complete darkness. Soon the priest came in, a man I had never met. I heard him enter and then he clearly stated my name! Ahhh, what?

Now as I was not a parishioner, did not know the priest, can someone tell me how he knew my name???
 
A medium is someone who "channels the spirits ".

No one in the Church who is not a phony will involve themselves with that.

Having spiritual gifts is altogether different.

ICXC NIKA
 
A medium is someone who "channels the spirits ".

No one in the Church who is not a phony will involve themselves with that.

Having spiritual gifts is altogether different.

ICXC NIKA
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Its to my understanding that Mediums do not necessarily focus on just calling " Spirits"
I know that they are basically, " present tellers" instead of future tellers, they always
tell the present or past.
 
I know full well that we are not supposed to use mediums and fortune tellers. And I do believe the Church has good reason to caution us against this, as it can open doors to a darker reality and can be dangerous. However, I do believe that not all mediums have ill intentions, and I do believe in ESP.

I have no choice but to believe in them as I saw my paternal grandmother predict many things right down to the last detail of what color people would be wearing, what day an event would occur, who would be sick, injured or if someone would die and how. I also have had dreams come true, or done such things a writing down dates while day dreaming that ended up correlating to natural disasters and plane crashes. My sister has these kinds of dreams as well.

My grandmother, father, sister nor I have ever used these events to gain attention, but merely as a way or means to help each other, other family or to prepare for possible trouble. I don’t think this is evil or a sign that we are in touch with the devil. I think that is too easy and very much a false accusation when made.

People have to be careful about any of the gifts they receive from God, and if one is able to tell the future through dreams, or sense things via some extra-ordinary means it should not be used to gain wealth or deceive others. Caution has to be the rule as well as a strong sense of self discipline.
 
Most likely because they have been consecrated to an evil spirit, or several of them, as a medium, or something like that.

You shouldn’t ask someone a medium to try to contact someone that has passed away for you, since consulting the dead as a medium is a sin in the Bible.
evil spirits and demons are known for lying though, what about cases where the medium can be proven in telling the truth about some reading they give to someone? If it was telling the truth, then I have trouble believing it came from an evil spirit, as they would not be helping mankind in anyway.

There is a medium online, whom I have visited her website and she is a bit like Edgar Caycee, people can submit questions and messages to her and she replies in time, and she does this for free, but does offer a more intimate service for only $10. where she will be with you on the phone and spend as much time as the person wants on a particular topic or question, but most of her services are done for free.

I have watched her topics and statements, she has been right about most of what shes claimed would happen, such as what Russia is doing currently, some other things going on the US, etc. so it appears she is correct much of the time…this does not sound like a demon or evil spirit to me…does it to you?

I think its also very important to keep in mind these mediums were given this ability by someone, the last time I checked Satan could not give a human any special abilities, nor can demons. Plus, not many people can call themselves mediums, only a few people out of 100s have this talent, most people do not.
 
I think its also very important to keep in mind these mediums were given this ability by someone, the last time I checked Satan could not give a human any special abilities, nor can demons. .
You might want to do some more checking then. (Deuteronomy 18:9-12)

There is a reason Satan is known as *The Great Deceiver * Because Satan and demons only want one thing: your soul. They can only do what God allows them to do. Evil is allowed, suffering is allowed to help us grow stronger in our faith.

So yes, Satan and/or demonic spirits would tell you useful info, why wouldn’t they? It brings you closer to them because instead of having faith in God and submitting yourself to His will, believing that He will take care of you, you go to a human and try to learn info you’re not supposed to know. And guaranteed that the info will be helpful. At first. Except now you’re giving the evil one permission to enter your life.

Have you heard of Adam and Eve? Life was perfection. Until they listened to a little snake that convinced them that Almighty God was holding back on them. That turned out well. :nope:

Stay away from this dark practice. ** No **good will come of it.
 
I know full well that we are not supposed to use mediums and fortune tellers. And I do believe the Church has good reason to caution us against this, as it can open doors to a darker reality and can be dangerous. However, I do believe that not all mediums have ill intentions, and I do believe in ESP.

I have no choice but to believe in them as I saw my paternal grandmother predict many things right down to the last detail of what color people would be wearing, what day an event would occur, who would be sick, injured or if someone would die and how. I also have had dreams come true, or done such things a writing down dates while day dreaming that ended up correlating to natural disasters and plane crashes. My sister has these kinds of dreams as well.

My grandmother, father, sister nor I have ever used these events to gain attention, but merely as a way or means to help each other, other family or to prepare for possible trouble. I don’t think this is evil or a sign that we are in touch with the devil. I think that is too easy and very much a false accusation when made.

People have to be careful about any of the gifts they receive from God, and if one is able to tell the future through dreams, or sense things via some extra-ordinary means it should not be used to gain wealth or deceive others. Caution has to be the rule as well as a strong sense of self discipline.
Depends what you mean believe in them. You cannot approve of divination, since it’s occult. Mediums are instruments of satan whether they have ill intentions or not. That they have good intentions might make them more able to deceive people through their good intentions.
evil spirits and demons are known for lying though, what about cases where the medium can be proven in telling the truth about some reading they give to someone? If it was telling the truth, then I have trouble believing it came from an evil spirit, as they would not be helping mankind in anyway.

There is a medium online, whom I have visited her website and she is a bit like Edgar Caycee, people can submit questions and messages to her and she replies in time, and she does this for free, but does offer a more intimate service for only $10. where she will be with you on the phone and spend as much time as the person wants on a particular topic or question, but most of her services are done for free.

I have watched her topics and statements, she has been right about most of what shes claimed would happen, such as what Russia is doing currently, some other things going on the US, etc. so it appears she is correct much of the time…this does not sound like a demon or evil spirit to me…does it to you?

I think its also very important to keep in mind these mediums were given this ability by someone, the last time I checked Satan could not give a human any special abilities, nor can demons. Plus, not many people can call themselves mediums, only a few people out of 100s have this talent, most people do not.
If you have consulted a medium, you need to go to confession for this.

The Catechism says:

2115 God can reveal the future to his prophets or to other saints. Still, a sound Christian attitude consists in putting oneself confidently into the hands of Providence for whatever concerns the future, and giving up all unhealthy curiosity about it. Improvidence, however, can constitute a lack of responsibility.

2116 All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to “unveil” the future.48 Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone.

2138 Superstition is a departure from the worship that we give to the true God. It is manifested in idolatry, as well as in various forms of divination and magic.

Divination is superstition, which is a transgression against the first commandment.

St. Firmilian in a letter to St. Cyprian mentions a woman who, “was so moved by the impetus of the principal demons, that for a long time she made anxious and deceived the brotherhood, accomplishing certain wonderful and portentous things, and promised that she would cause the earth to be shaken. Not that the power of the demon was so great that he could prevail to shake the earth, or to disturb the elements; but that sometimes a wicked spirit, prescient, and perceiving that there will be an earthquake, pretends that he will do what he sees will happen.” ([A.D. 253])
 
Jonathan,

I don’t believe that all mediums are instruments of Satan. You either do good or evil with your gifts. I don’t go out and look for mediums to advise me in my life. All I am saying is it is way too easy to dismiss a particular ability as all evil. I think people have this ability and like all other things can choose to do good or evil with it.

And I think there is a difference in souls that would tend to allow a person to be attracted more to the dark side than that of good. A lot of people don’t believe that possession is possible and so they don’t seem to fear it. I do believe it is possible and if there is anything I fear it is something that could lead to it. Going around and seeking out fortune tellers and the like is not a good idea.

But when a person, through no searching or seeking of their own finds that they have dreams that come true, or that they suddenly know not to drive a certain way to work and later learns that there was a severe accident they more than likely would have been in, I do think it is a gift from God.

I just don’t think it is fair to classify all ESP experiences or mediums as serving the Devil or being of the Devil. Maybe it is the response that folks should worry more about, not the event. I can use this gift for good or for bad, to hurt or assist. It is not to be taken lightly but it should not be automatically classified as evil.
 
Make no mistake! Many, MOST even are fakes. HOWEVER there are some real ones, but they are technically still fake. They just use another method of faking it. We all have demons attached to us, trying to lead us into hell. Now they communicate with each other and then to the medium, who receives your info and amazed you. So call it real or not its evil to lie and its evil to talk to demons so mediums are evil either way.
 
So I came across some you tubers on accident that claim to be Mediums.
Does anyone actually believe in this nonsense ?
Yes people believe. You should too. Most are fakes but if you think for one minute that evil cannot manifest itself and mislead people you are blind to the tricks of the demonic.
In Rome, all around every single square are many many many mediums, it is odd and a real testament to the Catholic Rome vs Pagan Rome dichotomy that exists not only in Rome but in our world as well.
 
A good many are frauds and are easy to detect. However not all are receiving info from demons. I do think that some receive legitimate information that can help others. If demons can give information then so can angels. What is needed is folks having the ability to discern the difference.
You are mistaken. “mediums” would never receive information from a Holy angel or saint. The angels and saints can speak directly to whomever God lets them. No need for a “medium” to contact a world that the Bible specifically instructs you not to seek out.
Keep your eyes fixed on Jesus.
 
Jonathan,

I don’t believe that all mediums are instruments of Satan. You either do good or evil with your gifts. I don’t go out and look for mediums to advise me in my life. All I am saying is it is way too easy to dismiss a particular ability as all evil. I think people have this ability and like all other things can choose to do good or evil with it.

And I think there is a difference in souls that would tend to allow a person to be attracted more to the dark side than that of good. A lot of people don’t believe that possession is possible and so they don’t seem to fear it. I do believe it is possible and if there is anything I fear it is something that could lead to it. Going around and seeking out fortune tellers and the like is not a good idea.

But when a person, through no searching or seeking of their own finds that they have dreams that come true, or that they suddenly know not to drive a certain way to work and later learns that there was a severe accident they more than likely would have been in, I do think it is a gift from God.

I just don’t think it is fair to classify all ESP experiences or mediums as serving the Devil or being of the Devil. Maybe it is the response that folks should worry more about, not the event. I can use this gift for good or for bad, to hurt or assist. It is not to be taken lightly but it should not be automatically classified as evil.
Divination isn’t used for good, it only appears to be. Satan wants it to look good on the outside. It doesn’t matter what the intentions of the mediums are in this case; that’s not what decides if divination is bad or good.

[BIBLEDRB]2 Corinthians 11:14-15[/BIBLEDRB]

I have already shown that the Church condemns divination, and it says nothing about exceptions or about intent being a deciding factor. The Bible also condemns it. Just like people committing euthanasia might have good intentions, but doesn’t make it right because of their seemingly good intent.

(Acts 16:16 NKJV) Now it happened, as we went to prayer, that a certain slave girl possessed with a spirit of divination met us, who brought her masters much profit by fortune-telling. 17 This girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying, “These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation.” 18 And this she did for many days. But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, “I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.” And he came out that very hour.

[BIBLEDRB]Deuteronomy 18:10-12[/BIBLEDRB]
 
Make no mistake! Many, MOST even are fakes. HOWEVER there are some real ones, but they are technically still fake. They just use another method of faking it. We all have demons attached to us, trying to lead us into hell. Now they communicate with each other and then to the medium, who receives your info and amazed you. So call it real or not its evil to lie and its evil to talk to demons so mediums are evil either way.
John Paul Jackson has a utube teaching on physics/medians. Or prophets

But numbers 11:29 the lord wished all his people were prophets.
Yes but only non catholics “teach” the school of prophets"
Catholic can’t even figure out if a Mary appearance . is demonic. Or real.

Those who receive a prophet"will receive a reward of that prophet" and only non catholics have prophets
 
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