??? Since from here it will be up to Mel, his wife, the Church, and ultimately God to decide, no reaction is necessary or appropriate from anyone other than to pray for him and his family. I certainly am not going to think about how I will react when it is Mr. Gibson and his family who are enduring the difficulty. Noone knows what is in the hearts of men let alone God, and it is not for us to judge him or his family but rather to do what we can, namely pray as we would for any family that is in trying times.
Holy indifference =D
When did I judge him?
One does not need to be a sedavacantist in order to deny the authority of the pope. I don’t know if this is the situation with Mr. Gibson but the term is only applied to those who say the seat is vacant due to heretical ecclesiastical matters. I think this is in opposition to Jesus saying He would not leave us orphans. The Holy Spirit is in the teaching of the Church, certainly not in the actions of all the members of the Church. One must look for the truth.
Who do you pray for?
Here is how we are instructed to pray:
Timothy 2
1I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
6Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.:getholy:
some people’s logic, I should stop?
Not happening!!
sinner myself…) Mel Gibson has impressed me as a 'schismatic' in that he seems to reject Vatican II and Popes since Vatican II. I recall visiting relatives in Burlington, CO, and finding a church there that claimed to be the true church had the same line of attack. The priest, for example, showed me a photo (which seemed to be authentic) of Pope John Paul II kissing a copy of the Koran as he got together with some Muslim leaders. He showed me other evidence - in his view - that the post Vatican II church had departed from essental traditions.
Now, as for his movie which followed quite closely the Stations of the Cross: where does the story of Veronica come from? I don't find it in the Bible.
God bless the whole world - no exceptions.It does not. When Mr Gibson visited His Holiness Pope John Paul The Great, EWTN reported that they got on very well.
Perhaps Mel is on a quest to find a way to justify his current behavior of having a new girlfriend while going through divorce hearings. I hear the Eastern Orthodox Churches are more lenient towards that kind of thing. Let’s hope and pray this is not the case and that he was just curious or that it was just a learning experience for him.
I’ll be honest…I never really was a fan of Mel G, but his public witness to his Catholic faith five years ago, in making The Passion of the Christ, was a catalyst in bringing me home to the Catholic Church.
More lenient…how so?
Its not just a dislike of the normative Mass. It is also the change of the Ordination Rite that bothers many of them. The people who hold this view have no problem attending a Byzantine Divine Liturgy as the Ordination Rite has not been changed.
Well, yes. The EO do allow divorce and remarriage, so that might be attractive to Mr. Gibson in his current situation.
I’m curious as to why you feel this way, Kathy.