Men and abortion?

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thistle:

Grounds for annulment apply prior to marriage, and not what happens during marriage

I learn something new from this site everyday.

What happens during the marriage can provide evidence that the ground for the marriage was not fertile to begin with.
This is in fact how people discover that the marriage is not what it was thought to be: things that happen after the fact illustrate it.

 

[JoeShlabotnik]

This is a hypothetical case. Who cares?

 

[phil19034]

If a mans wife gets an abortion without the husbands consent, is the husband still accountable? Like the character, he wanted to keep the child but the wife aborted it anyway Or does the husband have to go to confession before receiving communion? To me I feel that the husband is fine and doesn’t have too confess right away because he didn’t consent, but what are your opinions?

If my wife got an abortion without my knowledge and behind my back I would 100% have to go to confession because I would be sinfully mad at her.

It such a situation, I would be in great need of all the Graces received from Confession, Communion, and the Atonement of the Sick (which I would need because I would then be very sick in the mind, heart, and soul if my wife did that)

God bless

 

[Guinness]

I’m trying to figure out the appeal of a game that basically simulates a normal, boring life. I don’t need a game to argue with my wife or kids, or worry about paying the bills; I get plenty of that in real life. In games I prefer killing zombies,or terrorists, or Nazis. Maybe the game appeals to SEAL team members and such who might like a little boring…

 

[TheLittleLady]

Remember the cars with the little pink and blue peg people? One had to pay bills!

https://www.amazon.com/Game-Life-Bo...560260955&s=toys-and-games&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1

 

[Guinness]

Remember the cars with the little pink and blue peg people?

And not a single one ever said “Are we there yet?”

 

[Sbee0]

JohnStrachan:

I disagree. The marriage vows are clear: “will you accept children lovingly from God and bring them up according to the teachings of Christ and his church.”

If the wife went through with an abortion, she is violating her vows. I would think this is grounds for annulment. Just my two cents.

Sorry but you are wrong. Grounds for annulment apply prior to marriage, and not what happens during marriage. Something that happens during marriage may support grounds for annulment (prior to marriage) but in and of themselves nothing that happens during the marriage are grounds for annulment.
Nobody can go to a tribunal and ask for an annulment based on what happens soley during marriage.

That’s true but perhaps her intention all along even before marriage was to do this and to me that could be grounds for annulment.

 

[thistle]

That’s true but perhaps her intention all along even before marriage was to do this and to me that could be grounds for annulment.

However, that would have to be proven.

 

[Allegra]

My first instinct was “obviously not”, because you can’t be responsible for someone else’s sin. However, several scenarios have crept into my mind where a husband could be morally responsible for coercing a woman into making that choice. For example, if he’s violent and beating on her and their other children. Or if he’s gambling away all of their money so they can’t support their family. If he’s a child molester. Obviously, he wouldn’t be culpable for her choice to end her baby’s life, but he would be culpable for the abuse that she suffered that had a part in driving her to that decision.

 

[francisca.chapter3]

Instead of annulment, why not try – since its a game-- to dispute her right for abortion on the grounds of legal marriage. marriage do assume pregnancy, so then the child conceive within legal marriage automatically has legal right to life, given by that marriage.

sure the wife can dispute that in civil court if the husband beat her, rape her and the conceiving of the child was done through an act/ acts that contradict to what a marriage should be.

who knows your game will become real prolife work to do: to establish the automatic legal right to life of unborn-human conceived within legal marriage.

 

[skelly]

snarflemike:

He should also ask the priest about the possibility of an annulment from a wife who murders his children.

What happens during a marriage are not grounds for annulment. Grounds for annulment apply up to the marriage taking place.

I agree with you but it is obvious that tribunals are taking what happens during the marriage to extrapolate what happened before as to intent and consent…

I’m not saying it’s right but that it happens.

 

[Sbee0]

Sbee0:

That’s true but perhaps her intention all along even before marriage was to do this and to me that could be grounds for annulment.

However, that would have to be proven.

That’s true as well. I suppose she could testify to that during the interview…

 

[TheLittleLady]

And the “intention against children” is the most difficult nullity case to present.

 

[thistle]

And the “intention against children” is the most difficult nullity case to present.

I would agree with that.