Men's responsability in abortion

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Why doesn’t society preach more about how men can stop abortion?
 
That’s a great question. In your own part of the world, it starts with you: what do you think men can do to stop abortion? And how to you plan to make more people talk about just that?
 
Have you considered becoming a Knight of Columbus? We are a Catholic fraternal service organization that supports families and leads the way in pro-life causes. We certainly try to stop abortion, but we do much more than that. We have a “Culture of Life” program dedicated to defending human life in all its stages, from conception until the moment of natural death.

I recommend that you locate a KofC council near you, and ask them what they are all about. Each local council has different service projects and a diversity of members, but we are all united in the cause of pro-life.
 
Probably because the legal right rests with the individual woman, Giggly.

I don’t think it would make much strategic sense for the pro-life movement to depict men as the authority over the women they sleep with.
 
TimeEntrance said:
Probably because the legal right rests with the individual woman, Giggly.

I don’t think it would make much strategic sense for the pro-life movement to depict men as the authority over the women they sleep with.
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I don’t think society ‘depicts’ men as authority over much anymore. They used to be viewed as leaders. Now men are ‘depicted’ as victims of naked women in their computers. Victims who can look straigt at a Womans chest because all other women advertise this. It seems as if all responsability has been removed from men leaving them to be innocent in all paths that have lead to abortion.

Abortion takes many small choices (good or bad) and usually does not happen randomly. If we fight the begging paths that lead to abortion (lust, bad dating habits, responsability, ect) we should make a difference. Even focusing how extended family’s attitude to life is equally important.
 
I too think that it is a good question and I do think it is addressed primarily in the realm of teaching abstinence etc.

Unfortunately the way the law is currently set up the man - the father is cut out of the decision making process in any legal sense. Yes he can encourage the girl to keep the baby. He or his family might even offer to take the child…but in cases taken to court, the fathers have been denied any rights.

So - I think it gets back to the education aspect and teaching responsibility so that it never gets that far…

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James
 
Many, many times, it is men who force their sexual partners into killing their unborn child. This is not something those in favor of women’s “choice” will advertize.

Other times, it is abandonment by the father that drives a women to abort her child. Very few choose abortion out of ideological preference. What men can do is step up and take responsibility for their children.

Strong men support the mother of their children, not push her to murder the child.
 
Because the womens’ lib movement, especially the pro-abortion juggernaught found within, has made it very clear “no uterus, no opinion”.

Couple that with the fact sex is apparently “no strings attached”, and the man has his out card.

Once upon a time, if a guy got a girl pregnant, he generally married her. Now, with the pill, condoms, and all other manner of interferences, the man can just say “well, I wore a condom, its your problem now…” or even “You can’t prove its mine”. And off he walks.

Women got screwed by the so called sexual revolution, and now men have no reason to have responsibility, and why should they? A guy gets a girl pregnant, he can just move onto the next unfortunate lass.

Education is the key, as others have said. Chastity and absitence, personal responsibility.

Another interesting thing I tend to hear from post abortive women is that they wished the guy had been more upfront, saying “Don’t have an abortion”, instead of the party line of “Whatever you choose I will support”.

Am I putting all the blame on me, absolutely not. Women are just as much at fault as men. Both having fallen for the societial message of “if it feels good, do it”.
 
runningdude said:
Many, many times, it is men who force their sexual partners into killing their unborn child. This is not something those in favor of women’s “choice” will advertize.

Other times, it is abandonment by the father that drives a women to abort her child. Very few choose abortion out of ideological preference. What men can do is step up and take responsibility for their children.

Strong men support the mother of their children, not push her to murder the child.
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That’s powerful & should be brought up a bit more. I’ve also seen the parents (technically grandparents) push abortion if they are brought into the situation.
 
Giggly_Giraffe said:
Why doesn’t society preach more about how men can stop abortion?
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i don’t know why it isn’t given more weight. plenty of fathers have been profoundly heartbroken to learn that their children were murdered by their own mothers. perhaps more men who have been hurt this way should step forward and testify. of course, there are innumerable grandparents, aunts, uncles, siblings, etc. who should do the same.
 
It’s an unfortunate extrapolation of the old adage; “Possession is 9/10th of the law”. Because the child grows in the woman’s body, she has ultimate say. It’s complete BS if you ask me, but that’s the name of the game.
 
A big one I’d suggest: Get rid of this whole “damaged goods” mentality. Be willing to accept a single mother as a potential partner, or a woman who’s given up a child for adoption. I’m not saying we have to overlook sin, but…too often I see Christian men treat a woman who isn’t a virgin as worthless, no matter her current character.

If a single mother came to your church, would people offer to help her, or would they look down their nose at her? I mean your church, in the pew next to you, not out in a charity organization where you give money and don’t get too close.
 
DarkLight said:
A big one I’d suggest: Get rid of this whole “damaged goods” mentality. Be willing to accept a single mother as a potential partner, or a woman who’s given up a child for adoption. I’m not saying we have to overlook sin, but…too often I see Christian men treat a woman who isn’t a virgin as worthless, no matter her current character.
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Can’t say that I have ever run across this where I live…may be different in other areas/countries/cultures.
If a single mother came to your church, would people offer to help her, or would they look down their nose at her? I mean your church, in the pew next to you, not out in a charity organization where you give money and don’t get too close.
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I cannot see any problem over this in my community…Of course, if a woman came in with a baby or small child and sat down next to me, how would I know if she was a) a single mother b) married to a non-believer c) widowed d) other? 🤷
But if she expressed some need, then yes we would do what we could to help her.

Peace
James
 
Giggly_Giraffe said:
Why doesn’t society preach more about how men can stop abortion?
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Great question. I would assume that ‘society’ doesn’t preach more about this because ‘society’ seems to support abortion rather than see it eliminated, at least at this point in time this is my general perspective.

I would guess that men would need to seek other sources of info as to how they can stop abortion, such as the Catholic Church and other organizations that either are against abortion, or at a minimum are organizations that teach men to be responsible to their wives, children, etc.
 
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