Mental Health, Spirituality, and Big Doubts

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Hey guys! So I’ll try to keep it brief.

So, for awhile now, I have been grappling with my faith. I can’t quite pin down where it started. I was on fire with my faith the last few years of high school. It was great! I then went to a college with a great Newman Center. I still go there now, and I can say that, at the end of the last school year, my faith was great. I prayed much, and even when I didn’t feel God near, I knew he was objectively there. However, at the time, a lot of arguments against the faith began to take hold in my head, and though I would brush them to the side, they kept resurfacing, seeming stronger and more convincing, though I knew good counterarguments to them all.

Fast forward to now. Well, I’m in a bit of a crisis of faith/exestintial crisis, and out of nowhere just a few weeks ago I am showing signs of depression, anxiety, and, well, suicide. Now, I don’t want to, but the thoughts…I just can’t get rid of them. Couple that with this doubt in my faith that I have. I wonder if God exists, how the Catholic faith can be the one true faith, if the Sacraments (specifically the Eucharist) are truly inward signs of outward grace. I wonder if life has meaning, and why God would place us hear on earth. It sounds dark, but I begin to think that if heaven exists, it would make sense why people would commit suicide. Of course, we believe that such a thing is a sin, but how can one be blamed for wanting to go strait to God?

I know answers to each of these arguments, and my mind feels like a broken record, constantly replaying the counterarguments to them in my head, making my faith become redundant. The arguments against the faith themselves discourage me and make me sad. Some nights I pray and believe God is there, others I pray and doubt he’s there.

I told my family already, thank goodness. They were supporting and loving, but we had a disagreement when it comes to faith. When I told them, I tried to put into words my crisis of faith. My parents told me that I need to not focus so much on faith. I had a hard time explaining to them my dead prayer life, and I couldn’t put into words my doubt in God’s existence because I didn’t want to admit it to them or myself. I finally said I should probably see a priest, and they said not to, and that he would simply be overly positive, telling me to simply “pray it off!” They think that I should see a counselor (I agree), but only a counselor rather than a religious leader. They seem to think I have overloaded myself on religion, and my mind is telling me to back off.

Now, I am seeing a counselor, as I do believe this is psychological as well as spiritual. I am seeing the on campus one because of cheapness. I considered asking my parents if I could go to a Catholic psychologist, but I just don’t think they understand my struggle in faith. Their idea of God seems to be more progressive. They don’t place the same value in the Sacraments and in a developed prayer life as I do, and think I just need to loosen up.

I’m also discerning priesthood, though I know it would not be wise to enter seminary at this time. I find the idea of saving souls through the Sacraments and ministry of the priest to be an awesome idea, but at the time my faith is weak, and my psychological state downtrodden. I WANT to believe, and WANT to be where I used to be, just don’t know where to start. Life in general seems redundant, and it often feels like I’m putting on a happy face in front of my friends.

I will be meeting with a trained and (I pressume) non Catholic psychologist next week, and, against my parents advice, a trusted priest as well for my spiritual matters. Any advice, or comments? If not, just please pray for me.
 
I think everyone serious about their faith has a bit of a crisis of faith at some point in their life. Look up St. John of the Cross and his Dark Night of the Soul for instance. Also reflect of this line from one of my favourite movies
There are times when I experience a total loss of faith. Days, months, when I don’t know what I believe in: God, or the devil, Santa Claus, or Tinker Bell. …Yet, there’s something that keeps digging and scraping away, inside me. Feel’s like God’s fingernail. And finally I can take no more of the pain, and I get shoved out from the darkness, back into the light.
At the end of the day, you need to either embrace your faith even more fully or wait and see if God nudges you back into the light on His own. And by all means talk to a priest.
 
May you be filled with loving kindness. May you be well. May you be peaceful and at ease. May you be happy.
 
Hey guys! So I’ll try to keep it brief.

So, for awhile now, I have been grappling with my faith. I can’t quite pin down where it started. I was on fire with my faith the last few years of high school. It was great! I then went to a college with a great Newman Center. I still go there now, and I can say that, at the end of the last school year, my faith was great. I prayed much, and even when I didn’t feel God near, I knew he was objectively there. However, at the time, a lot of arguments against the faith began to take hold in my head, and though I would brush them to the side, they kept resurfacing, seeming stronger and more convincing, though I knew good counterarguments to them all.

Fast forward to now. Well, I’m in a bit of a crisis of faith/exestintial crisis, and out of nowhere just a few weeks ago I am showing signs of depression, anxiety, and, well, suicide. Now, I don’t want to, but the thoughts…I just can’t get rid of them. Couple that with this doubt in my faith that I have. I wonder if God exists, how the Catholic faith can be the one true faith, if the Sacraments (specifically the Eucharist) are truly inward signs of outward grace. I wonder if life has meaning, and why God would place us hear on earth. It sounds dark, but I begin to think that if heaven exists, it would make sense why people would commit suicide. Of course, we believe that such a thing is a sin, but how can one be blamed for wanting to go strait to God?

I know answers to each of these arguments, and my mind feels like a broken record, constantly replaying the counterarguments to them in my head, making my faith become redundant. The arguments against the faith themselves discourage me and make me sad. Some nights I pray and believe God is there, others I pray and doubt he’s there.

I told my family already, thank goodness. They were supporting and loving, but we had a disagreement when it comes to faith. When I told them, I tried to put into words my crisis of faith. My parents told me that I need to not focus so much on faith. I had a hard time explaining to them my dead prayer life, and I couldn’t put into words my doubt in God’s existence because I didn’t want to admit it to them or myself. I finally said I should probably see a priest, and they said not to, and that he would simply be overly positive, telling me to simply “pray it off!” They think that I should see a counselor (I agree), but only a counselor rather than a religious leader. They seem to think I have overloaded myself on religion, and my mind is telling me to back off.

Now, I am seeing a counselor, as I do believe this is psychological as well as spiritual. I am seeing the on campus one because of cheapness. I considered asking my parents if I could go to a Catholic psychologist, but I just don’t think they understand my struggle in faith. Their idea of God seems to be more progressive. They don’t place the same value in the Sacraments and in a developed prayer life as I do, and think I just need to loosen up.

I’m also discerning priesthood, though I know it would not be wise to enter seminary at this time. I find the idea of saving souls through the Sacraments and ministry of the priest to be an awesome idea, but at the time my faith is weak, and my psychological state downtrodden. I WANT to believe, and WANT to be where I used to be, just don’t know where to start. Life in general seems redundant, and it often feels like I’m putting on a happy face in front of my friends.

I will be meeting with a trained and (I pressume) non Catholic psychologist next week, and, against my parents advice, a trusted priest as well for my spiritual matters. Any advice, or comments? If not, just please pray for me.
I join to all previous posters. I would also add that “wanting to believe” is believing. I have a similar issue from time to time. Both You and I understand, that they are irrational. You want to believe, You know the arguments and counter-arguments. This is as far as a human being may go. Constant temptation to doubt, to rethink, etc., which we dislike, does not obviously come from us. Your guess, who is constantly trying to confuse us all. You don’t want to feed that “troll” of our souls.
Praying for You. :crossrc:
 
I’ll pray for you. By all means, as the others have said, talk to a priest/spiritual director.
 
I have read somewhere, sorry I can’t remember who or where, ‘that the closer you
get to God …the more satan tries to take you away’.
I have also heard that the devil really tries to go after priests.

so…keeping that in mind, in my opinion, you love of faith is very strong, and the devil
is messing with you BIG TIME. this is also a time in your life when you are
emerging into the adult life, and that is also a time of upheaval – putting away the
things of childhood and trying on the things of becoming an adult. and it really
sounds like you are right on target by “knowing” what is best for you and seeking
the help you desire. that is very commendable. plus, I really admire you making the
decision to also see a priest. many youth, and I was one, leave our Lord at this
struggling time of ‘becoming an adult’ and opt for the things of the world. now, I look
back and know that is the only regret I have, that I made a very stupid mistake.
so I urge you, from what I know now, on the path of our Lord, there are times
of darkness. for me they have often been the parts of me, that I am not aware of, but
need to look at and change, to being a better servant of our Lord and I do believe
our Lord also wanted me to see how I am holding up the progress of keeping
closer to Him. it is a struggle !!! yet the rewards are truly awesome. the wow’s
that are hard to explain. so if any of this clicks in any way…you are on the right
path and I sincerely admire your efforts and honesty in seeking help. 👍
plus no matter what you are going through, which is often hard to explain,
stay with our Lord, learn to trust Him, call on the saints for help, and our Blessed
Mother,…they all will always be better than and more than the bestest of Friends
you will ever have. even when you don’t think our Lord or your guardian angel,
or Mary or the saints are hearing …know that they are. sometimes you may not
get or see the help. or want a different answer. they know what path God wants
for you and will steer you in His direction.
St’ Dymphna is the patron saint for emotional problems.
say the St. Michael prayer. the guardian angel prayer…and just talk to
one or all of them. St. Alphonsus Liguori has a 47 page book…“praying to God
as a Friend” put out by Liguori Publications. here’s a sample:
Speak to God often
of your life,
your plans,
your troubles,
your joys
your fears----
of everything that concerns you;
but above all,
converse with God
confidently and frankly,
for God is not likely to speak to one
who does not want to share. ( page 9)

lastly, when you do talk with a priest, tell him about your desire to possibly be
a priest. and here’s hoping and praying that you continue to follow the Holy
Spirit’s directions.
 
What you are going through is a normal questioning of your faith. A common book used in training Catholic catechists to be able to minister to young adults is called Stages of Faith by Fowler. This book was also used in both my Catholic theological graduate school studies and in my clinical pastoral care training as a hospital chaplain. You are firmly in a Stage 4 of faith situation.

Next, when it comes to suicide, I unfortunately see them a lot as a trauma chaplain. As Catholics we believe that death is just a comma in our journey of life, not a period. It is good for you to come to the realization that life on earth can be purgatory on earth - what you are going through is a purification of your faith. You come out knowing with confidence that each and every person is carrying the presence of Christ alive within them. If you work through resentments you can come close to loving others in a way that can be somewhat close to heaven on earth. Suicide doesn’t solve any of your spiritual angst, you will need to work through it either dead or alive. May God walk with you through all your healthy questioning and help you to find a solid theological foundation that brings meaning to your life.

amazon.com/Stages-Faith-Psychology-Development-Meaning/dp/0060628669/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1454043029&sr=8-1&keywords=stages+of+faith
 
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