Merck Researcher Admits: Gardasil Guards Against Almost Nothing

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**Merck Researcher Admits: Gardasil Guards Against Almost Nothing

**On the morning of 2 October 2009, one of us (Joan) joined an audience of mostly health professionals and listened as Dr. Diane Harper, the leading international developer of the HPV vaccines, gave a sales pitch for Gardasil. Gardasil, as you may know, is the new vaccine that is supposed to confer protection against four strains of the sexually transmitted Human Papillomavirus (HPV).

Dr. Harper came to the 4th International Public Conference on Vaccination to prove to us the real benefits of Gardasil. Sadly, her own presentation left me (Joan) and others filled with doubts. By her own admission, Gardasil has the doctors surrounding me glaring at a poor promise of efficacy as a vaccine married to a high risk of life-threatening side effects.
Gardasil, Dr. Harper explained, is promoted by Merck, the pharmaceutical manufacturer, as a “safe and effective” prevention measure against cervical cancer. The theory behind the vaccine is that, as HPV may cause cervical cancer, conferring a greater immunity of some strains of HPV might reduce the incidence of this form of cancer. In pursuit of this goal, tens of millions of American girls have been vaccinated to date.

As I sat scribbling down Merck’s claims, I wondered why such mass vaccination campaigns were necessary. After all, as Dr. Harper explained, 70% of HPV infections resolve themselves without treatment in one year. After two years, this rate climbs to 90%. Of the remaining 10% of HPV infections, only half coincide with the development of cervical cancer.

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And all these young girls are being vaccinated? It’s not fair to them to be subjected to something that is proving to be more harmful than good.
 
It’s sickening, isn’t it? The government forces girls into an institution where it as much as admits they will have no protection from sexual exploitation, and then forces on them all a vaccine that could either protect them from one, just one, of the many kinds of damage from that exploitation – or it could kill them. 😦 What a twisted system. If I had a daughter I wouldn’t let the government anywhere near her.
As far as I’m concerned the whole educational system is implicated in sex abuse.
 
WOW!

You know, if I were a doctor I would be really irritated with the ulterior motives of drug companies. I understand it is tough business predicting what drug side effects and efficiency will be, but when it’s mixed with self serving on the companies’ part, well, that’s just waste of doctors’ time.
 
This link comes from a blog. It is not a news source.

No one forced me to give my daughter the vaccine. I chose to, freely.

Just because most cases of cervical cancer are in the developing world does not mean MY DAUGHTER’s life is not worth protecting! When you have lived in a family touched by this disease, then come talk to me about how we shouldn’t prevent it.

Gardasil protects against two strains of HPV that cause 70% of cervical cancer, and two other strains that cause 90% of genital warts. That is protection worth having, and I am glad I can give it to my little girl. Someday she may be a college student who makes a bad choice, but she may not have to die or suffer lifelong disease because of it. Someday she may be a wife that gets cheated on, but she may not have to die or suffer lifelong disease because of it.

Hyperventilate all you want, but many parents are making informed, reasoned decisions to give this vaccine. I am one of them, and we have seen no adverse effects.
 
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    **[Despite reports, maker, agencies defend Gardasil](http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2009/feb/02/chronically-ill-girl-eyes-vaccine/)**
Suddenly, Ashley Ryburn was sick all the time, and her mother didn’t understand why.
Ashley, 16, played four sports, danced in her high school’s show choir and earned top grades without even trying.
But now, Ashley was exhausted all the time. She was nauseated. She passed out at show choir and blacked out at school.
And then one day Ashley’s legs went numb. She couldn’t walk.
“You see somebody touch your legs and you can’t feel it,” Ashley recalled. “That’s the scariest thing in the world.”

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matris_domi said:
Gardasil protects against two strains of HPV that cause 70% of cervical cancer, and two other strains that cause 90% of genital warts. That is protection worth having, and I am glad I can give it to my little girl. Someday she may be a college student who makes a bad choice, but she may not have to die or suffer lifelong disease because of it. Someday she may be a wife that gets cheated on, but she may not have to die or suffer lifelong disease because of it.
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But that’s the rub. NOT vaccinating COULD result in a bad choice or bad luck giving her cervical cancer. But you appear to ignore the fact that DOING the vaccination ALSO poses risk factors she’d not otherwise be exposed to.

Wouldn’t it be nice if somebody would analyze the risk factors so we could balance one risk against the other? With my oldest girl being 8, I’m waiting a few years to see what side effects appear so I can make a more informed decision.
 
manualman said:
Bu But you appear to ignore the fact that DOING the vaccination ALSO poses risk factors she’d not otherwise be exposed to.
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I am not ignoring anything. The risks posed by this vaccine are the same risks posed by most other vaccines. Any vaccine can be dangerous to that one unlucky person. As none of my children have ever reacted adversely to any other vaccine, I chose to take the risk. Because to me, it’s minimal and outweighed by the protection.

I truly believe that people harmed by vaccines have other underlying, sometimes undiagnosed, medical issues that cause them to be susceptible when others wouldn’t be.
 
Take this from a veteran in the military - you never know what effect vaccines will really have until years later. Just look at us from Persian Gulf, OIF, and OEF. Many of us took vaccines and preventative meds that the FDA said were safe yet the VAs are full of vets that are ill from those same vaccines. Agent Orange was safe and why don’t you say that to a Vietnam vet sometime and see how they take it. Now instead of testing some vaccine on the military for the long term they want to test it on prepubescent girls. I have an issue with parental control being taken out of it yes- I think it is up to each parent to weigh out the pros and cons and what they realistically think their son or daughter is going to actually do. However, I look at this and they are turning young girls into lab rats and social experiments without their parents even knowing it or having a say in many instances.
 
RosalynR said:
And all these young girls are being vaccinated? It’s not fair to them to be subjected to something that is proving to be more harmful than good.
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You know what is really scary, is that they’re frequently running a commercial for this… at least, on Satellite TV. Have any of you seen it?

I can’t understand the logic, either… behind vaccinating young girls. Is this supposed to provide future protection for AFTER THEY ARE MARRIED?

OR… are they making a statement about the morality “habits” of our youth? Kind of like the old… “they’re gonna do it anyway… so make 'em use condoms”? :nope: Am I misinterpreting this?

We need to teach them to remain chaste (before and after marriage). Then, maybe… there will be no “need” for vaccines like this.

My :twocents: Thanks for letting me contribute.
 
MarieVeronica said:
I can’t understand the logic, either… behind vaccinating young girls. Is this supposed to provide future protection for AFTER THEY ARE MARRIED?

OR… are they making a statement about the morality “habits” of our youth? Kind of like the old… “they’re gonna do it anyway… so make 'em use condoms”? :nope: Am I misinterpreting this?

We need to teach them to remain chaste (before and after marriage). Then, maybe… there will be no “need” for vaccines like this.
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:rolleyes: I am SO SICK of this argument. I can talk myself blue in the face about chastity, which I have already started to discuss with my daughter. BUT I will not be there when she is madly in love and may make the wrong choice. Should she DIE for that? I won’t be there to stop him if her husband decides to cheat on her and brings home a nasty disease from his skank. Should my daughter DIE for that, or have a lifelong incurable illness? I know HPV is not the only thing out there, but shouldn’t we prevent what we can?

In a perfect world, everyone would be perfectly chaste. Let me know when it happens. For now, I have to live in the real world.
 
matris_domi said:
This link comes from a blog. It is not a news source.

No one forced me to give my daughter the vaccine. I chose to, freely.

Just because most cases of cervical cancer are in the developing world does not mean MY DAUGHTER’s life is not worth protecting! When you have lived in a family touched by this disease, then come talk to me about how we shouldn’t prevent it.

Gardasil protects against two strains of HPV that cause 70% of cervical cancer, and two other strains that cause 90% of genital warts. That is protection worth having, and I am glad I can give it to my little girl. Someday she may be a college student who makes a bad choice, but she may not have to die or suffer lifelong disease because of it. Someday she may be a wife that gets cheated on, but she may not have to die or suffer lifelong disease because of it.

Hyperventilate all you want, but many parents are making informed, reasoned decisions to give this vaccine. I am one of them, and we have seen no adverse effects.
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Cervical cancer is already preventable with regular screenings. HPV rarely causes any problems if left alone, but with treatment it never has to lead to cervical cancer. This is all without the vaccine.
 
taylorc said:
Cervical cancer is already preventable with regular screenings. HPV rarely causes any problems if left alone, but with treatment it never has to lead to cervical cancer. This is all without the vaccine.
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No! Cervical cancer is TREATABLE with regular screenings. All they can do is treat what they find and is already there. No screening or test prevents ANY disease!
 
matris_domi said:
No! Cervical cancer is TREATABLE with regular screenings. All they can do is treat what they find and is already there. No screening or test prevents ANY disease!
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They can remove the cells before they turn into cancer.
 
matris_domi said:
This link comes from a blog. It is not a news source.

No one forced me to give my daughter the vaccine. I chose to, freely.

Just because most cases of cervical cancer are in the developing world does not mean MY DAUGHTER’s life is not worth protecting! When you have lived in a family touched by this disease, then come talk to me about how we shouldn’t prevent it.

Gardasil protects against two strains of HPV that cause 70% of cervical cancer, and two other strains that cause 90% of genital warts. That is protection worth having, and I am glad I can give it to my little girl. Someday she may be a college student who makes a bad choice, but she may not have to die or suffer lifelong disease because of it. Someday she may be a wife that gets cheated on, but she may not have to die or suffer lifelong disease because of it.

Hyperventilate all you want, but many parents are making informed, reasoned decisions to give this vaccine. I am one of them, and we have seen no adverse effects.
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The article does not condemn anyone for making the choice to vaccinate, rather to alert the public on what the reality of the drug. Go ahead and vaccinate, but wouldn’t you like to have accurate information to go on?

I don’t know why anyone who is alarmed at the information provided is hyperventilating?
 
buffalo said:
Merck Researcher Admits: Gardasil Guards Against Almost Nothing

On the morning of 2 October 2009, one of us (Joan) joined an audience of mostly health professionals and listened as Dr. Diane Harper, the leading international developer of the HPV vaccines, gave a sales pitch for Gardasil. Gardasil, as you may know, is the new vaccine that is supposed to confer protection against four strains of the sexually transmitted Human Papillomavirus (HPV).

Dr. Harper came to the 4th International Public Conference on Vaccination to prove to us the real benefits of Gardasil. Sadly, her own presentation left me (Joan) and others filled with doubts. By her own admission, Gardasil has the doctors surrounding me glaring at a poor promise of efficacy as a vaccine married to a high risk of life-threatening side effects.
Gardasil, Dr. Harper explained, is promoted by Merck, the pharmaceutical manufacturer, as a “safe and effective” prevention measure against cervical cancer. The theory behind the vaccine is that, as HPV may cause cervical cancer, conferring a greater immunity of some strains of HPV might reduce the incidence of this form of cancer. In pursuit of this goal, tens of millions of American girls have been vaccinated to date.

As I sat scribbling down Merck’s claims, I wondered why such mass vaccination campaigns were necessary. After all, as Dr. Harper explained, 70% of HPV infections resolve themselves without treatment in one year. After two years, this rate climbs to 90%. Of the remaining 10% of HPV infections, only half coincide with the development of cervical cancer.

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From what I have read, the Gardasil vaccine protects against the four strains of HPV that cause 70% of cervical cancer cases. My unfaithful spouse passed on one of those strains to me. I have to be on my guard for the rest of my life.

My dd will be receiving this vaccine in the next year, just so she doesn’t have to face what I am facing. Her future spouse may have it too, and because he will be male, he won’t even know it.

It’s all fine and dandy if you have a health plan, but how many women without such a plan will go for regular PAP tests?
 
Ailina said:
From what I have read, the Gardasil vaccine protects against the four strains of HPV that cause 70% of cervical cancer cases. My unfaithful spouse passed on one of those strains to me. I have to be on my guard for the rest of my life.

My dd will be receiving this vaccine in the next year, just so she doesn’t have to face what I am facing. Her future spouse may have it too, and because he will be male, he won’t even know it.
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So you think facing paralysis is better than a virus that almost never leads to any complications even when left untreated?
 
taylorc said:
So you think facing paralysis is better than a virus that almost never leads to any complications even when left untreated?
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All vaccines carry a risk of side effects, not just this one. There has not been a single case of paralysis in my city, where most girls have already been vaccinated with Gardasil. Even the H1N1 vaccine carries risks, but we are all going to get it when it becomes available.

I have already had a few painful medical procedures done because of HPV. It was a case that developed very quickly (about six months). I could face more in the future. I don’t want my daughter facing the same situation I have found myself in, due to a philandering spouse.
 
Read this site: cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/side-effects.htm

Many of the side effects claimed for Gardasil are listed here for other vaccines. The most severe occur very infrequently, so infrequently that it is basically impossible to tell if the vaccine caused them.

The risk is small, the potential protection is great.

So, unless you are going to stop vaccinating your kids against anything, don’t tell us we shouldn’t give Gardasil to our daughters.
 
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