The general rule is if at least one of the parties is Catholic, and the appropriate dispensation(s) was not obtained, no marriage is deemed to have occurred in the eyes of the Catholic Church (barring certain extreme situations).But it seems that not being married within the Church is grounds for the marriage being invalid, if I am understanding the explanation on the annulment process.
The other half is still 30,000, hundredfold increase over the sixties. This is a US abuse, the devaluation of marriage vows, one of the reason why the number of marriages plummeted from 415,000 yearly in the sixties to 168,000 in 2010.But the Church acknowledges marriages outside the Church, right?
One can be sure that the marriage is valid per the Church. A putative marriage must have been celebrated according to the required form with the cooperation of the Church (with an exception for extreme cases) so therefore has the appearance of a marriage, and a proper covenent, with no impediments.The other half is still 30,000, hundredfold increase over the sixties. This is a US abuse, the devaluation of marriage vows, one of the reason why the number of marriages plummeted from 415,000 yearly in the sixties to 168,000 in 2010.
I checked the rules, and even my marriage could be annulled in the US. This means that almost no Catholic in the US can be sure that hie/her marriage is valid in the eye of the Church. The opinion that if I do not want to annul it then it is valid, if I want to annul it is invalid is a puked up opinion, merde fro the French and Scheize for the German.
If your friend is a Catholic then he should speak to his priest as every case is different.Hi folks,
in this forum I learned that it’s possible to make an annulement of a marriage by the bishop.
I have a concrete case: A friend of my working collegue has been married for 25 years now and has 2 children with his wife.
What would be valid reasons to divorce this marriage/make an annulement?
What are the reasons in general? Is this only up to the bishop, or are there rules by the RCC?
Yours,
in Christ,
Esdra
He’s a very devout (Charismatic) Catholic.If your friend is a Catholic then he should speak to his priest as every case is different.
There is not a checklist that gets ticked off.
Secondly an annulment is not a divorce. A declaration of nullity declares that the marriage was not valid in the first place and it is what is known prior to and up to the marriage ceremony that is taken into account. What happens after the marriage is not relevant unless it has some direct bearing on something known prior to the marriage.
Unless he remarried he should be able to go to confession and receive Communion.He’s a very devout (Charismatic) Catholic.
He has been divorced by the state and now wants an annulement by the Church, as he wants to recieve Holy Communion again.
He can receive the sacraments of Reconciliation and Holy Eucharist as long as he is not now in a civil marriage, or living with a woman. He should see a priest and discuss this.He’s a very devout (Charismatic) Catholic.
He has been divorced by the state and now wants an annulement by the Church, as he wants to recieve Holy Communion again.
I see. Thank you (to both of you) for your answers.He can receive the sacraments of Reconciliation and Holy Eucharist as long as he is not now in a civil marriage, or living with a woman. He should see a priest and discuss this.
Not sure what you mean by "…unless you receive the Sacrament of Reconciliation…I see. Thank you (to both of you) for your answers.
So, when you are civil divorced you are allowed to recieve Holy Communion, unless you recieve the Sacrament of Reconciliation and doesn’t live together with another woman nor is civil married to her?
Here’s the basic rules:Hi folks,
in this forum I learned that it’s possible to make an annulement of a marriage by the bishop.
I have a concrete case: A friend of my working collegue has been married for 25 years now and has 2 children with his wife.
What would be valid reasons to divorce this marriage/make an annulement?
What are the reasons in general? Is this only up to the bishop, or are there rules by the RCC?
Yours,
in Christ,
Esdra
This last statement is incorrect.One have to differentiate between the US and European practice. The interpretation of the law is is significantly different, the annulment rate in the US is at least tenfold of the European average.
The Church allows the legal separation only in the case of unforgiven adultery.
2383 The separation of spouses while maintaining the marriage bond can be legitimate in certain cases provided for by canon law.177
Canon LawIf civil divorce remains the only possible way of ensuring certain legal rights, the care of the children, or the protection of inheritance, it can be tolerated and does not constitute a moral offense.
Can. 1153 §1. If either of the spouses causes grave mental or physical danger to the other spouse or to the offspring or otherwise renders common life too difficult, that spouse gives the other a legitimate cause for leaving, either by decree of the local ordinary or even on his or her own authority if there is danger in delay.
There is some confusion in this statement. Many of these things may happen during a marriage. The Church does not grant decrees of nullity of marriage for events after marriage as in a civil dissolution of marriage. A decree of nullity may be granted if one of the party’s was Catholic and did not observe canonical form and was not dispensed from canonical form; one of the parties could not validly marry due to an impediment that was not dispensed; one of the parties did not give proper consent.Inability of either/both parties to live a sacramental married life. For example, alcoholism, drug abuse, mental instability, refusal to have children, etc.
It means nothing. Do not worry. Be happy in your marriage and continue to Love God and neighbor.By the book, annulments make sense: a marriage was invalid, therefore you aren’t married. But I’ve heard people requesting annulments that seemed like it was just a way of getting out of a marriage they didn’t like anymore. Without getting too personal, I knew a couple that had a child that were getting an annulment although they were married in the Church, and they were separated.
I hear people say that it’s just the Catholic loophole for divorce. Are annulments often rejected? For what reasons? I get the impression that almost anyone can get an annulment if they just wait long enough for approval.
But this is what I really have a problem with: how do any of us know if our marriages are really valid? I mean people can go for years thinking they’re in a perfectly valid marriage, then maybe they don’t want to be married anymore, and what a relief it must be for them to realize they weren’t really ever married to begin with. But what does that mean for the rest of us who never try to get an annulment?
Please read this for the detailed explaination of the grounds for annulment. (Touch one, two N one L at the start).I would like opinions re: my situation. It’s a bit convoluted but here it is…
My husband and I were married in the Catholic Church in a Catholic Ceremony. I was not Catholic at this time but converted many years later, nor was he a truely committed Catholic. We both were agreeable to using birth control for the first two years of our marriage, after which no further birth control was used because both of us proved to be infertile, not because we consciously wanted to be open to life. There was no conscious effort or true understanding on my part until my conversion to be “open to life” as defined by the Church.
Here it is 20+ years later and we are permanently separated. After less than 6 months my husband (who professes to be a near perfect Catholic) has a steady girlfriend and I am anticipating his attempt to acquire an annulment. I am currious to know if he has grounds based on the above information.
Any opinion would be appreciated.
Thanks
Gracie
First of all - you say that you are separated. Are you not divorced yet? You cannot begin annulment proceedings in the U.S. until a civil divorce is granted.I would like opinions re: my situation. It’s a bit convoluted but here it is…
My husband and I were married in the Catholic Church in a Catholic Ceremony. I was not Catholic at this time but converted many years later, nor was he a truly committed Catholic. We both were agreeable to using birth control for the first two years of our marriage, after which no further birth control was used because both of us proved to be infertile, not because we consciously wanted to be open to life. There was no conscious effort or true understanding on my part until my conversion to be “open to life” as defined by the Church.
Here it is 20+ years later and we are permanently separated. After less than 6 months my husband (who professes to be a near perfect Catholic) has a steady girlfriend and I am anticipating his attempt to acquire an annulment. I am curious to know if he has grounds based on the above information.
Any opinion would be appreciated.
Thanks
Gracie
Hello Gracie,… We both were agreeable to using birth control for the first two years of our marriage, after which no further birth control was used because both of us proved to be infertile, not because we consciously wanted to be open to life. There was no conscious effort or true understanding on my part until my conversion to be “open to life” as defined by the Church.
… I am anticipating his attempt to acquire an annulment. I am currious to know if he has grounds based on the above information. …