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I think so, at least from my perspective.

They are “Closed on Sunday” but are more than happy to have …
“More than happy”? Says who? You would have a point if the higher-ups at the company require this work to be done on Sunday and will not employ those who refuse to work on Sunday.
 
Should a company dictate in a contract to another company that they can’t do the contracted work on Sunday’s? If they attempted to that would be considered forcing their beliefs on others. You guys are trying to make a catch 22 to always find fault.
 
Funny–I always used to wonder that about people who made a big deal about doing no work on Sundays, then went to a restaurant on Sunday after church for lunch. “We won’t break God’s law, but we’ll pay others to do it!” 🙂

More to the point though, I used to work at a CFA and I believe the individual store operator has a lot of say when it comes to what happens in this regard. I’m not sure how much control Corporate has here. My old boss used to pay one of my co-workers “under the table” to do various cleaning projects and so forth on Sundays. He couldn’t get away with it on payroll, but I guess he figured what Corporate didn’t know wouldn’t hurt them, so he paid the guy cash. Maybe the hypocrisy charge would lie more against the store operator than CFA as a whole.
I think you hit the nail on the head. I doubt the Cathy family, whose policy it is, is involved in management/contracting issues on individual stores.
 
I think you hit the nail on the head. I doubt the Cathy family, whose policy it is, is involved in management/contracting issues on individual stores.
And not only that, but the stores might not have a say in what day the work gets done.

Or, maybe that’s the day where’s the least inconvenience to the establishment, because they’re closed to customers.

In places where I used to work, for example, the outside cleaning crew would come in on Saturday or Sunday, possible for one or both of these reasons.
 
crews of Mexicans
are they busing people from Mexico up to work every Sunday? must be pretty expensive. are they all Mexican,could it be possible they are American citizens? or perhaps from Guatemala,El Salvador,or even Peru.
 
Perhaps there is some hypocricy, perhaps not. Businesses can not sin. People do. It may be that the policy of being closed Sundays is made nationally, but the decision involving local work is decided by local managers. If this is the case, there would be no hypocricy. I do not think there is enough info to judge, if indeed that was ever our role.
 
I find it a bit hypocritical that Chick-fil-A is “Closed on Sunday” but are more than happy to have crews of Mexicans laying floor tiles, cleaning grease traps, installing new roofs and restripeing parking lots on Sunday.

Although they themselves might not work, they certainly are not adverse to paying others to do hard manual labor on Sunday for their own benefit.

-Tim-
They can’t do those things when the restaurant is open. Can you imagine stepping over people laying tiles while you get to the line to order? And you can’t have cars in the parking lot with roofing material falling down and how can one possibly restripe parking lots with cars in them. Get real.
 
I don’t think they’re hypocritical. The only times this could be done is when the restaurant is closed. His people don’t work on Sundays. This is probably one of the few companies that does this. Why bust him over this as well as the marriage issue?

The issue right now is free speech. The owner stated that he believes in marriage between a man and a woman. This is not a novel idea. It has been going on for 5,000 years. We allow free speech…right now. Way things are going, who knows.

There was an immediate call to boycott the restaurant by the liberal left including discussions of whether to allow the restaurant in various cities e.g. Chicago, D.C. Boston, etc. Jobs are hard to find but the politicians are ready to jump all over him because he used his right to express his views.

Wed., Aug. 1, is Chick-Fil A Day started by Mike Huchabee. I think we all should show up and have a sandwich. 👍
Other places of business that are open 7 days a week manage to get those things done.
 
There was an immediate call to boycott the restaurant by the liberal left including discussions of whether to allow the restaurant in various cities e.g. Chicago, D.C. Boston, etc. Jobs are hard to find but the politicians are ready to jump all over him because he used his right to express his views.
There was also right-wing Christians who claimed they were going to boycott Oreo when they supported gay rights, so you can’t exactly pretend the left are taking away your rights. 🤷 You’re allowed to state that you don’t agree with homosexuality, but other people are allowed to disagree with you. By doing such a thing, they aren’t oppressing you or taking away freedom of speech.
Selling chicken on Sundays isn’t allowed, according to Protestant translations of Leviticus.
But they don’t follow Jewish laws such as the ones in Leviticus, do they?
 
I find it a bit hypocritical that Chick-fil-A is “Closed on Sunday” but are more than happy to have crews of Mexicans laying floor tiles, cleaning grease traps, installing new roofs and restripeing parking lots on Sunday.

Although they themselves might not work, they certainly are not adverse to paying others to do hard manual labor on Sunday for their own benefit.

-Tim-
Mexicans are not"christian" according to domionists, they are Catholic idolators in these people’s eyes.

They need to “get saved” and be rebatised by total submerrsion only, then they will be Christian and get sundays off.

Why does chick fil a close the entire day on sunday, it may take 2 hours to dress go to church have lunch, change into less dressy clothing. They could be open sunday afternoon and evening.
 
As i said there are other sources for info on domionism and “christan reconstructionism” than just those 2 located in a fast google search, many more.

I will not be shopping at hobby lobby, eating at chick fil a, or buying “christian books” and chotches at Mardells.

Mardells sells only funmdamentalist books and bibles and music. You cannot buy an entire bible, Catholic book or rosary at Mardells. The owners at Mardells consder Catholics as not Christian at all.
 
By the way, if liberals succeed in their crusade to put Chick-fil-A out of business, they will also be putting a lot of African Americans out of a job. And that’s the last thing African Americans need since they’ve been hit the worst by this failed economy.
I suppose I would probably fall under your definition of a “liberal” and, although I don’t live in the USA, I assure you that I would not support the closing of a business simply based on their views on same-sex marriage. 🤷 I support freedom of speech. Someone need not be punished for expressing an opinon.
 
I ate at Chick-Fil-A AGAIN today! I’m going to try to go every week. (I need to gain weight in all seriousness, so I can afford the calories. Besides which, the restraunt is the healthiest rated fast food in the famous Eat This, Not That)

I went through the drive through this time. Man, the young lady taking my order was seriously the nicest human being working a drive through station that has ever served me. She was so kind and spoke so clearly, not like the typical mumbling apathetic teenager you find at other fast food joints. I don’t know what Chick-Fil-A does to train their workers, but they must treat them very well.
 
I ate at Chick-Fil-A AGAIN today! I’m going to try to go every week. (I need to gain weight in all seriousness, so I can afford the calories. Besides which, the restraunt is the healthiest rated fast food in the famous Eat This, Not That)

I went through the drive through this time. Man, the young lady taking my order was seriously the nicest human being working a drive through station that has ever served me. She was so kind and spoke so clearly, not like the typical mumbling apathetic teenager you find at other fast food joints. I don’t know what Chick-Fil-A does to train their workers, but they must treat them very well.
I ate at Chick-Fil-A again on Saturday, and I plan to go again on Wednesday, Aug 1. They are Protestants, so they don’t agree with us on everything. But marriage is what we do agree on, and marriage is key to our Christian beliefs since true marriage looks forward to the marriage feast in Heaven between Christ the groom and his bride the Church.
 
So read their OWN authors and see what you find. Read Rick Warren, Chuck Colson and James Dobson. Then read the authors they cite as resources and inspiration. Go deep into that movement and see what the goals really are. Doing that homework over the last five years saved me from being sucked into their trap.

Yes, there are liberals who have done this work and have found issues with it. That doesn’t mean that there aren’t problems there. Do your own and see where you end up.

Eat the chicken, don’t eat the chicken-do what makes you feel good. I won’t be going there, but that’s really more about the fact that I find the chicken and fries soggy and tasteless.
Seeker,

I have never seen or paid for a Jane Fonda movie. I have never eaten at Chik-fil-A. I do eat chicken.
 
As i said there are other sources for info on domionism and “christan reconstructionism” than just those 2 located in a fast google search, many more.
As noted bny others, this is divisive alarmism, nothing more. Baptists believe somewhat differently than catholics. No suprise there. They actively seek to convert catholics and many consider catholics ‘unsaved.’ But the assertions that they are going to burn our churches, kill our priests and eat our babies is just ignorant hysteria. I know dozens of these folks and they place Christ first in their lives. They know an awful lot about Him, read the scriptures constantly and seek to conform themselves to Him instead of other way around (more typical of Americans these days). They get a lot of details wrong and have some strange theology. That’s a far cry from being hatemongers. Especially laughable is the assertion that Chuck Colson was Machiavellan ‘Dominionist.’ I know of few in evangelicaldom who have done more to bring reconciliation between the catholic church and American protestantism.

Want a villian in protestant circles? Cite those Westboro loonies. But leave the good guys alone.
 
It’s very odd that when Westboro baptists protest the way they do it’s protected as freedom of speech, but when someone politely says they don’t agree with homosexuality they are called a bigot. It’s kind of like how liberals bend over backwards to defend Islam even though Islamic Sharia law sentences homosexuals to death. But all we are saying is leave the definition of marriage as it was from the beginning, and liberals call is bigots.
 
As noted bny others, this is divisive alarmism, nothing more. Baptists believe somewhat differently than catholics. No suprise there. They actively seek to convert catholics and many consider catholics ‘unsaved.’ But the assertions that they are going to burn our churches, kill our priests and eat our babies is just ignorant hysteria. I know dozens of these folks and they place Christ first in their lives. They know an awful lot about Him, read the scriptures constantly and seek to conform themselves to Him instead of other way around (more typical of Americans these days). They get a lot of details wrong and have some strange theology. That’s a far cry from being hatemongers. Especially laughable is the assertion that Chuck Colson was Machiavellan ‘Dominionist.’ I know of few in evangelicaldom who have done more to bring reconciliation between the catholic church and American protestantism.

Want a villian in protestant circles? Cite those Westboro loonies. But leave the good guys alone.
That’s exactly how I felt 5 years ago. I’ve learned a bit more than I wanted to since then. I don’t think they’re going to “burn our churches, kill our priests and eat our babies” although oddly enough that’s one of the things they used to say about us!

I do think that the overall plan is to create a theocracy, with our help, and then once they have it make their religion the only religion and outlaw Catholicism along with Islam and Judaism. You have to go back well prior to the 1970’s to find those kinds of thoughts, but they are there, written by authors that today’s megapastors reference and view the way many in our faith view St Thomas or St Augustine.
 
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