MERGED: Is it possible for the body and blood of christ to turn back into bread and wine?

[ProVobis]

Depends on how small the crumbs would be, at some point no one will be able to distinguish it as bread.

I’ll bet electron microscopes could pick up all kinds of distinguishable bread on the floor, in the air, and your on hands if you receive that way. Would that count?

If you’ve ever been to a coin show, you will probably find them looking for “rubs” on a particular coin. It doesn’t take that much to change the grade of a coin by simply touching the surface. But the naked eye won’t be able to pick up silver elements in the air or on your fingers.

 

[Erich]

My friend responded by saying and I quote ‘Just as Jesus Christ enters the bread and wine so he can choose to leave it’, Now I can disprove that from logic but I was wondering whether there was any authoritative teaching on the subject?

One point which I think has been missed… at Mass, Jesus doesn’t just *enter *the bread and wine… the bread and wine *become *Jesus.

Also, at the Last Supper, Jesus didn’t say “This is My Body, but only until I say it isn’t anymore.”

 

[Kayla123]

I am a EMHC at my parish and some of us take turns setting up and putting away after mass. I know that the priests are to purify the sacred vessels after mass. Once in a while I have noticed that the communion plates maybe aren’t all that clean. This past week I noticed that one of the plates looked a little dusty. Now I don’t think it was dust I think it could have been left over host particles. Some were bigger than others but not big enough to be picked up. My question is would that still be considered the Real Presence. I have heard that once it no longer appears to be bread the Real Presence is no longer there, but maybe I am wrong. The priest was not around so I simply put the plates in the locked cabinet where they are stored. The next mass was to begin shortly so I felt like even if it was the Real Presence it would be safe there for a few minutes. Did I do the right thing? Should I have talked to the priest? I would have a really hard time telling a priest that he didn’t do his job right.

 

[GEddie]

I am a EMHC at my parish and some of us take turns setting up and putting away after mass. I know that the priests are to purify the sacred vessels after mass. Once in a while I have noticed that the communion plates maybe aren’t all that clean. This past week I noticed that one of the plates looked a little dusty. Now I don’t think it was dust I think it could have been left over host particles. Some were bigger than others but not big enough to be picked up. My question is would that still be considered the Real Presence. I have heard that once it no longer appears to be bread the Real Presence is no longer there, but maybe I am wrong. The priest was not around so I simply put the plates in the locked cabinet where they are stored. The next mass was to begin shortly so I felt like even if it was the Real Presence it would be safe there for a few minutes. Did I do the right thing? Should I have talked to the priest? I would have a really hard time telling a priest that he didn’t do his job right.

You are to be commended for your respect for the priests!

I was told the same as you, by a priest whose knowledge I trust wholeheadedly: Once nothing remains under the appearance of bread, the Real Presence is gone. You had nothing to worry about.

God Bless and ICXC NIKA

 

[ConstantineTG]

I’ll bet electron microscopes could pick up all kinds of distinguishable bread on the floor, in the air, and your on hands if you receive that way. Would that count?

If you’ve ever been to a coin show, you will probably find them looking for “rubs” on a particular coin. It doesn’t take that much to change the grade of a coin by simply touching the surface. But the naked eye won’t be able to pick up silver elements in the air or on your fingers.

Sure, if we’re going to that level of scrupulosity, the we should have an air tight ciborium where the bread will be consecrated, then through a complex medical procedure the Body of Christ is transported through a vacuum into our stomachs. This way every molecule is securely consumed.

 

[zab]

The pattens are supposed to be wiped by the priest or deacon when he is purifying the chalice. If I had noticed what I thought may be particles of the Host, I would have put a little water on it and drank the water or you could pour it down the sacrarium, then wiped it off with one of the purificators (if the priest or deacon was not present)

 

[Seatuck]

The plates and cups are to be purified by the priest but then they are to be washed . This is usually done by someone else . The Sacristan usually washes ours but we EMHC often take turns washing.

 

[zab]

The plates and cups are to be purified by the priest but then they are to be washed . This is usually done by someone else . The Sacristan usually washes ours but we EMHC often take turns washing.

That is true, they are supposed to be purified by the priest or deacon, but what does one do when something needs to be purified in the absence of the priest or deacon. I believe that it is better to go ahead and purify it rather than sticking it in the cabinet. The next person who sets up may not take notice.

 

[Seatuck]

That is true, they are supposed to be purified by the priest or deacon, but what does one do when something needs to be purified in the absence of the priest or deacon. I believe that it is better to go ahead and purify it rather than sticking it in the cabinet. The next person who sets up may not take notice.

If the priest left early or something then yes I would purify and then wash.

 

[patricky]

I’m well aware of this and seeing as I receive on the tongue, kneeling, there isn’t much risk of that but thanks anyway

Great Caesar’s ghost- did the priest faint? I mean, you’re not supposed to kneel… are you?? You CAN"T be holier than the priest!!