Mermaid Baptism

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I’m glad were accomplishing so much in this thread, if Merpeople ever do decide to become Catholic, they’ll be good to go…😛
 
Some thoughts:

Are Mer-people decendants of Adam and Eve?
If not, are they still stained by original sin?
If not, do they still the sacrifice of Jesus Chirst?
If not, are they still Catholic???

Hmm…
 
Feel free to ignore my request, but in my original post, I asked people to assume that merfolk were humans (thus descendents of Adam) who had biological (not social) need to live under water, via genetic mutation / selection, I suppose.

If a mermaid human is the same as a square circle, I asked someone to prove that instead. Ok, thanks, so far 🙂
 
Jsmith17 said:
Some thoughts:

Are Mer-people decendants of Adam and Eve?
If not, are they still stained by original sin?
If not, do they still the sacrifice of Jesus Chirst?
If not, are they still Catholic???

Hmm…
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Here’s my thoughts:
  1. If they’re human (ARE merpeople human?), then yes, they’re descended from Adam and Eve, as the Church teaches that all humans are.
  2. As humans, no matter how fishy, they still require the salvific sacrifice of Christ
  3. If not human, then they wouldn’t have access to the Church, any more than apes or elephants or apples do (even if they really looked a lot like humans). Since only humans have immortal souls, religion is a moot point for non-humans.
 
bbentrup said:
Feel free to ignore my request, but in my original post, I asked people to assume that merfolk were humans (thus descendents of Adam) who had biological (not social) need to live under water, via genetic mutation / selection, I suppose.

If a mermaid human is the same as a square circle, I asked someone to prove that instead. Ok, thanks, so far 🙂
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Ah, forgive me. I seemed to have been caught up in my preconcieved notion that Merpeople were a different race of people. Although, (for arguments sake) could it be possible that these are “humans” not decended from Adam and Eve, but from somewhere else? (“Mer-Adam and Mer-Eve”?), If then they are from, “a different flock” perhaps then their Church and Sacraments would be different from ours…

Im sorry, my mind is filled with hundreds of theoretical questions right now. (I always seemed to stump/confuse my high school apologetics teacher).
 
Jsmith17 said:
Some thoughts:

Are Mer-people decendants of Adam and Eve?
If not, are they still stained by original sin?
If not, do they still the sacrifice of Jesus Chirst?
If not, are they still Catholic???

Hmm…
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Descendants of Adam and Eve. Though it’s not mentioned in the bible, they are descendants of a pair who tried to cling to the Ark after the flood had hit and the doors were closed. That was unsuccessful, but God allowed them to develop gills and fins for survival.
 
Do we all get “contributor credit” on your novel when it’s published? And autographed copies?

Here’s another thought- you know how we have the urge to make Jesus look a lot like a reflection of our own times (I’m thinking specifically of the fat, blond-haired, blue-eyed baby Jesuses one sees on Renaissance art)? Does merpeople religious art have a vaguely fishy-looking Jesus?

Or maybe it’s all a misunderstanding. Instead of reading “I will make you fishers of men”, they read, “I will make you fish men” 😉
 
Feedmysheep said:
Here’s another thought- you know how we have the urge to make Jesus look a lot like a reflection of our own times (I’m thinking specifically of the fat, blond-haired, blue-eyed baby Jesuses one sees on Renaissance art)? Does merpeople religious art have a vaguely fishy-looking Jesus?
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Perhaps he is depicted crucified on a big fishhook.
 
Jsmith17 said:
Some thoughts:

Are Mer-people decendants of Adam and Eve?
If not, are they still stained by original sin?
If not, do they still the sacrifice of Jesus Chirst?
If not, are they still Catholic???

Hmm…
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The Blessed Virgin and John the Baptist were not stained by original sin, but they still needed the sacrifice of Jesus. As to being descendants of Adam and Eve, they are still God’s creation. When we encounter sentient life forms from other planets, we will most likely evangelize them, we’re Catholics, we can’t help ourselves.
 
Morningkill said:
Does the flame have to be a candle flame, or can it be something else? There is plenty of stuff which burns underwater.
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I believe the rubrics state that the flame must be from a candle made specifically from beeswax, although I am sure the Holy Sea (er…I mean Holy See) could make an exception in the case of the mer-people.
 
Marsha_Adams said:
The Blessed Virgin and John the Baptist were not stained by original sin, but they still needed the sacrifice of Jesus. As to being descendants of Adam and Eve, they are still God’s creation. When we encounter sentient life forms from other planets, we will most likely evangelize them, we’re Catholics, we can’t help ourselves.
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The BVM still had to be saved by Jesus from original sin, He just saved her before it touched her.

But what if Mer-Adam and Mer-Eve never sinned, then their decendants would have no original sin to be cleansed of.
 
we could always just let them sit in the holy water fonts! Ours is pretty large. 👍 If they have a vocation we could just put a pool behind the alter and put a lazy river around the church so they could go to communion!
 
scylla said:
So a suitable Church would probably be a partly flooded Church.

Scylla
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Oooh. You could set it in Venice after the city sinks. That would provide lovely buildings, artwork, and everything you need for the carrying on of life like that on the surface.🙂
 
Perhaps he is depicted crucified on a big fishhook.
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Chrst’s sacrifice for men is the same as Christ’s sacrifice for mermen, so I doubt they would alter the crucifixtion.

I agree that the merpeople would have their own rite, which would avoide the use of fire as a sacramental found in the land-rites. Jellyfish would probably be used instead, or the plankton someone else mentioned, and that the mer-Mass and Sacraments would take place above-air.

Other than that?

Seashell rosaries, Our Lady of the Coral, Christmas Kelptrees, The Feast of St. Ariel, the blessing of pet Octopi on St. Francis’ day, a great devotion to St. Peter the Fisherman, blessed salt, Eucharistic Swim-cessions on the seafloor, with the Host in a glass bubble, Brown Scapulars made of seaweed and wool (weighted, of course), Images and statues of Mer-Mary and Mer-Jesus, pilgramages to the Shrine of Our Lady, Star of the Sea Cathedral, warnings of the icey floes of hell, and, of course, I’m surprised it wasn’t mentioned before:

Fish fridays.
 
I suppose they would have great devotion to Our Lady, to whom they would sing hymns such as “Hail Queen of Heaven, the Ocean Star” and “Ave Maris Stella” (Hail Star of the Sea).
 
I for one will never attend a MerMass. :mad: Those creatures insist on using Extraordinary Mussels of the Holy Eucharist when there is little more than a single school of them to receive!!! Don’t they know that the Holy Father required them to lower all their fins and float on their bellies!! :rolleyes: What is wrong with them??? :eek: AND I have it on good notice that many of them are straining plankton right up to receiving the Host. Haven’t they heard about the one hour fast?? :confused: And don’t get me started on the Nova Fishus Ordus!!! 😦 Oh, and how can they expect to have a new crop of merpriests when they even allow roe filled females to serve! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Nonjudgmentally in His Most Oceanic Love,
Paul
 
Everybody KNOWS that Merpeople are not Catholic - they are Baptists 🙂
 
No response, just bumping up this thread because I thought it was hilarious! ROFL
 
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