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Hello all, i came across this “messianic” stuff browsing the above site. The author, Simon Altaf, came from Islam into the messianic faith. The basic tenets are that the old law was never invalidated and that all followers of Christ must ascribe to it. Basically, it seems to be Judaism with Jesus (Yeshua).

I searched really hard looking for the anti-Catholic slurs, finally found them. The usual pagan sun god worship, eucharist is a symbol,etc etc. Does anyone know anything about this relatively new movement? (so it would seem)

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I recognise some of the authors names from the Answering Islam site. I don’t know much about this group, but I would start by looking at their statement of faith.
  1. The Elohim of the Bible YHWH is the one and only true Elohim. He is the creator of all things, infinitely perfect (Titus 1:2), and eternally existing in three offices: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Each partakes of the same nature, attributes, and perfection (Gen. 1:1, 26; Matt. 3:16; Deut. 6:4; John 12:28, 14:16, 17:5; Acts 5:3-4; Rom. 1:7; 1 Cor. 8:6; 2 Cor. 13:14; Eph. 2:18; Heb. 1:8).
I am wondering if this is a form of sabellianism or modalism.
  1. Elohim the Father is perfect in holiness, infinite in wisdom, measureless in power (Deut. 32:4; 2 Chron. 16:9; Rom. 11:33). He is the head of all in heaven and earth (Eph. 3:15), the supreme authority/power (John 8:29) and in the Body of Messiah (1 Cor. 11:3), his personal name is YHWH (Exo 3:14) unchangeable.
  2. Yahushua HaMoshiach (Jesus Christ) is the image of the invisible Elohim, which is to say, He is Himself very Elohim (Heb. 1:3). He became like men but a body prepared in heaven (Heb 10:5), being conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary, yet not relinquishing His divine nature. He died upon the cross as a substitution sacrifice for the sin of the world. He arose from the dead on the third day in the body in which He was crucified. He ascended into Heaven in that body, which was glorified, where He is now our interceding High Priest. He will come again personally and visibly and in his own body to set up His Kingdom and to judge the living and the dead (Col. 1:15; Phil. 2:5-8; Matt. 1:18-25; I Peter 2:24, 25; Luke 24; Acts 1:9-11; I Thess. 4:16-18; Matt. 25:31-46; Rev. 11:15-17; Rev. 20:4-6; Rev. 20:11-15).
  3. The Ruach HaKodesh (Holy Spirit’s) ministry is to glorify the King Messiah Yahushua as His representative on earth (John 14:16, 26) and to teach us the truth of Elohim’s Word by convicting of sin, righteousness, and judgment (John 16:8-11) and illuminating Elohim’s Word to the believer (John 16:13; 1 Cor. 2:10-14). The Ruach reveals the **feminine aspects of Elohim **of the heavenly family who imparts a new nature to those who believe in the atoning work of Moshiach and places them into Moshiach’s body, by an act of spiritual baptism (Rom. 6:3-4; Titus 3:5; 1 Cor. 12:13).
  4. Adam was created in the image of Elohim and by the direct act of Elohim (Gen. 1:26-27). However, through Adam’s sin the entire human race became sinners and all are therefore alienated from Elohim(Rom. 3:10, 23).
  5. Salvation is given when the individual responds to the convicting ministry of the Holy Spirit with faith in the sacrificial atoning work of Yahushua HaMoshiach on the cross, His burial, and His resurrection. Each person receives, at the moment of thus trusting, eternal salvation only as a free gift from Elohim (John 3:16; John 1:12). The salvation thus received is a sovereign gift of Elohim, entirely apart from human effort to add to or detract from the saving efficacy of Moshiach’s atonement (Eph. 2:8,9). This salvation, once received, guarantees true, complete, and eternal salvation and, upon the end of life here on earth, an eternity in the presence of Elohim (Gal. 2:16; Titus 3:5; 1 Thess. 4:13-18)
 
  1. Heaven is the place of Elohim’s dwelling, in which Moshiach has prepared a place for those who are believers in His atoning work (John 14:1-6). It is the place of the believers inheritance and eternal dwelling in the presence of Elohim and of the Lamb (Rev. 22:3; Rom. 8:17). For those who have not believed in the atoning work of King Messiah, eternal, conscious punishment will be their reward, with Satan and all the fallen angels who followed Satan in his rebellion against Elohim (Rev. 20:11-15)
  2. The Bible, consisting of sixty-six books and are the verbally inspired Word of Elohim, without error in the original language. It is the only infallible rule for faith and practice (Heb. 4:12). No other writings are similarly inspired (2 Tim. 3:16; 2 Pet. 1:21). By Elohim’s sovereign grace, the manuscripts which are accepted by orthodox Christianity have been preserved to this day without substantial error, so that the Scriptures available to the believer today may be relied upon to be Elohim’s Holy Word (Rev. 22:18-19)
  3. The Body of Messiah is composed of all people who have placed their faith in Yahushua HaMoshiach All these who have thus believed are baptized by the Holy Spirit into one Body, of which Moshiach is the Head (1 Cor. 12:12-13). The mission of the Body of Messiah is, through local bodies of believers, to equip its members, the saints, to do the work of the ministry, and by this means to make known the Gospel of Yahushua HaMoshiach to a dying world (Eph. 4:11-12; Acts 1:8;) and to promote the maturing of individual believers through mutual support, love, and sound biblical teaching (Eph. 4:13-16; Gal. 5:21-6:5).
  4. Future events are taught in Scripture. These events include the return of King Messiah as visible Yahuweh (Jer 23:5-6) for the bride (The Body of Messiah Israel), the judgment of the nations, and the establishing of the literal earthly kingdom of the King Messiah for one thousand years as promised to the nation Israel (Isaiah 24:23; Zech. 14:4: Rev. 20:4), followed by the resurrection and judgment of the unrighteous and the ushering in of the eternal state (Rev. 20:7-15; Rev. 21). We reject Replacement Theology that the Church replaces Israel, we believe that Israel today is a fulfilment of Bible prophecy and has a special place in Elohim’s heart and Elohim loves the not only the Jewish people as a covenant people (Malachi 1:2-3,Deuteronomy 7:7-8) but the other 10 dispersed tribes which He is gathering to Himself. Also only believing Israel are the Bride of Messiah not some man made entity called The Church.
This is just Dispensationalism pretending to be Jewish.
  1. We believe that Elohim has made an eternal covenant with the Israel the twelve tribes. (e.g. Genesis 17:7; Jeremiah 31:35-37; Romans 11:28-29). We believe that the preservation and continuity of the Jewish people to this present day is an outstanding and inexplicable miracle of world history, and that the return of the Jewish people to Israel as a fulfilment of Bible Prophecy and to add to that the Messiah Yahushua is coming back to Israel when they cry out for him (Zec 12:4-14:3-4). We believe that Yahuweh has in His heart the reunification of the twelve tribes known as the House of Israel and House of Judah yet to take place as one tree (Ezek 37, Rom 11)
  2. Yahuweh the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac and the Elohim of Jacob has declared in scripture that Yahushua HaMoshiach will return upon the restoration of ALL things, this means we believe in the set apart days i.e. the Sabbaths both the Saturday and the feast days as eternal ordinances set to reveal the Messiah. His faithful Bride will adhere to His set-apart days and instructions.
  3. We believe that Yahushua HaMoshiach is the eternal living Torah and it is through the Torah that we come to know Him thus the Torah stands forever, without Torah Yahuweh cannot judge sin and without Torah the Son cannot be known.
 
  1. We believe Yahuweh has revealed the end from the beginning Isaiah 46:10 so we cannot discard Torah and call it only for the Jews this kind of theology is not acceptable to us because Yahuweh declared that “My Council stands”. The covenant on Mount Sinai was made with Israel the twelve tribes and not two as in Judah and Benjamin.
Isaiah 46:10 “Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times things that are not yet done, saying, `My counsel shall stand, and I will do all My pleasure,”
  1. The Torah will be taught by the King Messiah right out of Jerusalem in the Millennium and hence it is good instruction for our living, no flesh can be saved by good deeds, salvation was and indeed does remain in the blood of King Messiah shed on the cross through repentance of sin. Obedience is a follow up to repentance and is non-negotiable in any believers life. Torah instruction is for our blessings and righteous living as instructed by Messiah Matthew 5:17-19.
Isaiah 2:3 "Many people shall come and say, “Come, and let us go up to the mountain of Yahuweh, to the house of the Elohim of Jacob; he will teach us His ways, and we shall walk in His paths.’’ For out of Zion shall go forth the Torah, and the word of Yahuweh from Jerusalem”

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This all strikes me as a form of modalism and dispensationalism pretending to be Jewish Christians.
 
Messianic Judaism is about as Jewish as a Cheesburger cookout at a Church picnic.
 
Valke2 said:
Messianic Judaism is about as Jewish as a Cheesburger cookout at a Church picnic.
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Is that like “as Jewish as the Olive Garden is Italian”?

Heard that one on Michael Feldman’s “what do you know”.
 
revelations said:
abrahamic-faith.com/

Hello all, i came across this “messianic” stuff browsing the above site. The author, Simon Altaf, came from Islam into the messianic faith. The basic tenets are that the old law was never invalidated and that all followers of Christ must ascribe to it. Basically, it seems to be Judaism with Jesus (Yeshua).

I searched really hard looking for the anti-Catholic slurs, finally found them. The usual pagan sun god worship, eucharist is a symbol,etc etc. Does anyone know anything about this relatively new movement? (so it would seem)

-revelations
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This type of Christianity is a form of Galationism. They want you to accept Christ as your personal Savior but then they look to the 5 Books of Moses to find direction for living a life pleasing to God.
Christians today are NOT under the Mosaic Law. We are under a New Covenant the Law of Christ.
 
A friend of mine is part of a group like this. He believes using the name “Jesus,” rather than “Yeshua” is a sin. He also believes that the use of the name “Jesus,” along with having church on Sunday rather than Saturday, together make up the mark of the beast. Of course, I don’t imagine his views are common among those who call themselves “Messianic Jews,” as there seem to be some elements of the Seventh Day Adventists and even Jehovah’s Witnesses in there.
 
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