Messing with the Responsorial Psalm

  • Thread starter Thread starter FDS
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
F

FDS

Guest
IS it liturgically correct to alter the words to the responsorial psalm?

Rarely do I attend a Mass where the cantor has not changed the words. This usually takes the form of “watering down” the psalm’s message into a kind of feel-good message. It is obviously changed by the singer, not the priest, so I find it hard to believe it is “okay”.

There is no (liturgically “legal”) way anyone could alter the readings–so why allow anyone to alter the psalms???

Is this addressed in Redemptionis sacramentum ?
**
**
 
While it is not generally permitted to alter the psalms, there are some concessions for musical settings. Further, there are cases where the parish may use a “seasonal psalm” which repeats through some period of time. When changes are made for musical reasons, they are now supposed to be submitted to the bishops for approval, but this has not always been the case. Many of the “composed psalms” were modified before the ruling went into effect, and they remain in song books and hymnals without episcopal approval.

Deacon Ed
 
The psalms have been extensively toyed with since the Second Vatican Council, to make them more “relevant”. The bits and pieces about cutting the enemy to pieces are especially unpopular. Yet “these terrible imprecations are not the outcome of personal animosity but the expression of a burning indignation against all that opposes the divine prerogatives; not the effect of imperfect charity towards fellow-creatures but the logical result of a true notion of JUSTICE towards God, a justice involving sanctions and, if need be, penalties.” (Vilma G. Little, The Sacrifice of Praise, p. 48, 1957, currently re-issued by Roman Catholic Books although not present in their online catalog.) Taking out these bits is a diminishment that coincides, obviously, painfully, with the overall diminishment that has occurred throughout the common liturgies and rites of the Church. Thankfully, the traditional rites and breviaries are all still available, as they do not have these problems.
 
For what it’s worth, it’s not usually the cantor who changes the words, by the way. The musical director (usually the organist, but not always) is the one who makes those decisions/selections for the mass. And yes, the priests do have and use (name removed by moderator)ut regarding these. I was a leader of song in a parish where the pastor often made ‘suggestions’ (read: commands) for the musical parts of the liturgy and hymns. If it were up to the cantors, I doubt if many would chose to make those changes.
 
Often I could find no connection with what we were told to sing with the actual Psalm. My solution, I read the Psalm in the Missal while the choir performed their Seasonal Hymn - it seems they have about 6 they use throughout the year - I much preferred the other method.
 
40.png
deogratias:
Often I could find no connection with what we were told to sing with the actual Psalm. My solution, I read the Psalm in the Missal while the choir performed their Seasonal Hymn - it seems they have about 6 they use throughout the year - I much preferred the other method.
I agree with you! I am the musical director for my parish, and I try to stick with the psalm for the day. The sole exception, so far, has been a seasonal response during Lent (Fr. Michael Joncas’ Be With Me Lord).

Because the psalm is supposed to be our response to the first reading, it’s usually best to use the psalm the Church has chosen for us, or one that the people can follow in the missal.

Deacon Ed
 
I never know if this repeated week after week responsorial hymn is because the choir is too lazy to learn a new one or if they thing we are too dumb to learn a one line response;)
 
I’m currently suffering from what may be one of these seasonal psalms because I’ve heard the choir sing the exact same arrangement for the past six weeks. I was told our bishop wishes the psalm to be sung and understand the difficulty for a choir of constantly preparing more music, but one of the reforms I actually appreciate in the Mass of Paul VI is that we are supposed to get a greater exposure to the Scriptures…
 
I always use the responsorial psalm in the missalette. I keep the melody simple and do not rely on the choir, but just sing it myself. The congregation has little problem following and it ties in with the readings.
 
I am a member of the Liturgy committee in my parish. Would like actual Church references as to why we should not change the Psalms for a given Sunday. It doesn’t appear to be for seasonal reasons that the changes take place, but it appears that it is the whim of the cantor. Also they change the Gospel Acclamation all the time. Any concrete references will be appreciated. Thanks.
 
As an organist I frequently compose psalm-settings for weekend Masses. I have never once come across a situation where I have had to alter the words - remembering that I’m setting music for the words and not words for the music is helpful & I find it easier to write a melody line which suits the tone of the text. I think the key is to keep it simple. Create a simple response which the congregation will be able to sing and use a psalm-tone for the verses. Certain translations are easier to set to a psalm-tone - missalettes in Ireland generally use the Grail Translation and they work well. Sometimes the tone you would like to use will not suit the words in one particular line of a verse - for example, in a line which expresses sorrow, sadness, anger, etc., it may seem unnatural and unsuitable to move up to a higher note as this is more often a way of expressing joy and happiness. If this is the case, there is no need to change the words in my opinion - change your psalm tone slightly instead (for all verses or just the strange one).

I understand that some common hymns such as “Eagles Wings” and “The Lord’s my Shepherd” have altered the standard wording used in missalettes - I don’t expect that there is a problem with this. I see the problem being with the fact that they are not responsorial psalms - key word being responsorial. If they do not give the congregation a chance to respond to the psalm with an acclamation then the music is not really serving its purpose at that particular point in the Mass. As pnewton said, I think the best solution is for the organist or a choir member to compose the psalm using the missalette - if it is kept simple it will not take much time, and of course the upside of using psalm-tones is that they can frequently be recycled throughout the year!
 
Is this addressed in Redemptionis sacramentum ?
**
**
Yes, it is. The following is from Redemptionis Sacramentum (bold emphasis added):
[61.] In selecting the biblical readings for proclamation in the celebration of Mass, the norms found in the liturgical books are to be followed,[136] so that indeed “a richer table of the word of God will be prepared for the faithful, and the biblical treasures opened up for them”.[137]
[62.] It is also illicit to omit or to substitute the prescribed biblical readings on one’s own initiative, and especially “to substitute other, non-biblical texts for the readings and responsorial Psalm, which contain the word of God”.[138]
Our bishop was quite specific about this in a pastoral letter he sent to all priests of our diocese in February of 2005 on the proper celebration of the Eucharist. Here is how he handled your specific question:
Since the Liturgy of the Word and the Liturgy of the Eucharist form the Eucharistic Liturgy, due honor must be given to the proclamation of the word of God so that the faithful may then contemplate the Word made Flesh in the Eucharist. The faithful therefore have the right to hear the word proclaimed in its entirety, without alteration. The Readings at all Masses are to be taken from the most recent edition of the Lectionary for Mass. The practice of altering the texts of the readings for any reason is to cease immediately. The Responsorial Psalm is to be given special consideration. Even though it may be sung, the Responsorial Psalm is as much the word of God as the other readings and Gospel. Therefore, the practice of singing a song other than a psalm at this time in the Liturgy of the Word is to cease. Likewise, the practice of using paraphrases of the psalms at this point in the Liturgy is also to cease. Any Responsorial Psalm sung or recited in the Liturgy of the Word must conform to the text provided in the Lectionary.
The full text of Bishop Martino’s letter can be found here: dioceseofscranton.org/Bishop’s%20Pastoral%20Letters/LiturgyInstruction2005.asp
 
In my parish this has caused some problems… when we got our new pastor (gotta love the man), he told the choir director that we will only be singing the responsorial from the missal because she had a cycle of about 6-8 that she did year around too… She acted like a petulant child and announced it to the congregation during mass like this, "From now on we will only be using the responsorial psalms from the missalette " It was ridiculous! But ultimately the pastor is responsible for everything and he didn’t like the way she was doing it at all. I love the changes our new pastor has made!
 
I am a member of the Liturgy committee in my parish. Would like actual Church references as to why we should not change the Psalms for a given Sunday. It doesn’t appear to be for seasonal reasons that the changes take place, but it appears that it is the whim of the cantor. Also they change the Gospel Acclamation all the time. Any concrete references will be appreciated. Thanks.
The reason is simple. The Psalm is a reading from Scripture, just like the 1st, 2nd, and Gospel readings. They are specifically chosen for a particular liturgy and the Church wants us to be attentive and listen to the wisdom and spirit of the word. The Psalm is not just a little “song intermission” in between the 1st and 2nd readings in which the choir/cantor can substitute anything just as long as it’s a song.
 
There are many different translations of the Psalms, and composers may use any of these translations when they set the Psalm to music.

Do you know of a particular translation that the Church has declared “definitive”? As far as I know, there isn’t such a thing.

[Edited]
 
The text used during the Responsorial Psalm time should be from the lectionary. Just as a lector shouldn’t change the words, neither should the psalmist/cantor.

However…

-It IS allowed to use common psalms appropriate to the season.

-Paraphrased psalms may be used elsewhere in the Mass as a song.
 
As an organist I frequently compose psalm-settings for weekend Masses. I have never once come across a situation where I have had to alter the words - remembering that I’m setting music for the words and not words for the music is helpful & I find it easier to write a melody line which suits the tone of the text. I think the key is to keep it simple. Create a simple response which the congregation will be able to sing and use a psalm-tone for the verses. Certain translations are easier to set to a psalm-tone - missalettes in Ireland generally use the Grail Translation and they work well. Sometimes the tone you would like to use will not suit the words in one particular line of a verse - for example, in a line which expresses sorrow, sadness, anger, etc., it may seem unnatural and unsuitable to move up to a higher note as this is more often a way of expressing joy and happiness. If this is the case, there is no need to change the words in my opinion - change your psalm tone slightly instead (for all verses or just the strange one).

I understand that some common hymns such as “Eagles Wings” and “The Lord’s my Shepherd” have altered the standard wording used in missalettes - I don’t expect that there is a problem with this. I see the problem being with the fact that they are not responsorial psalms - key word being responsorial. If they do not give the congregation a chance to respond to the psalm with an acclamation then the music is not really serving its purpose at that particular point in the Mass. As pnewton said, I think the best solution is for the organist or a choir member to compose the psalm using the missalette - if it is kept simple it will not take much time, and of course the upside of using psalm-tones is that they can frequently be recycled throughout the year!
NPC, I agree with you!

I have done the same thing as NPC - composed music to go with the words of the psalm (not the other way around).

The psalms were composed to be the songs used in the liturgical worship of the ancient Israelites, and as such by their very nature should always be sung. Times when I have been faced with a Sunday psalm in the missalettes with either a dreadful, nearly unsingable, or just plain ugly melody, I have written my own music to go with it. I never take the chicken’s way out - using another psalm (which is also *not allowed *).

Times when the psalm is the body of a song, such as On Eagles Wings, or one of the many beautiful settings of the 23rd Psalm for example, but when the song is not responsorial in nature and thus not appropriate to be used as a Responsorial Psalm, I will try to use the song in another part of the Mass (say, as a Communion song), the theory being to reinforce the message in the minds of the congregation. (Usually, by Communion time, half of the congregation can’t remember the Psalm, the readings, the Gospel or the homily. :rolleyes: )

When I attended the New York School of Liturgical Music, we were taught that it was okay to play around a little with the words of the psalm in order to make it more singable. I have always found it frustrating, however, that no one ever really defined how much “playing around” is licit. A word or two? A whole line? I’d rather use the words as they appear in the Lectionary, then I know I’m safe. 🙂
 
I don’t understand why our parish sings the responsorial psalms, and no one in the parish has the words…so we have no idea what the response is. In our parish back in PA, they would first tell the parish what to repeat…then, we would know what to say. Here, the music minister doesn’t indicate anything …the psalms are sung entirely. And it’s hard to understand what is even being sung, so I wish they would go back to it being spoken, and not sung. For all I know, they could very well be changing the words…no one sitting in the pews would be the wiser!:mad:

The Catholic faith is about participating for the congregation. Not sitting back like you’re watching a play. 🤷
 
I never take the chicken’s way out - using another psalm (which is also *not allowed *).
the Lectionary allows for common seasonal psalms to be substituted. It is NOT a “chicken way out” and it is allowed.
 
the Lectionary allows for common seasonal psalms to be substituted. It is NOT a “chicken way out” and it is allowed.
No. I’m sorry. You’re right. I should have specified. I didn’t mean common seasonal psalms.

I’ve worked with choir directors who will spend time teaching the choir a particular psalm and then either use it every week or every other week so they don’t have to teach the choir a new one each week.

You know, instead of just using something simple, they’ll teach something in 4 part harmony and then want to hold onto it forever because now, the choir knows it and, *“The people won’t know the difference anyway.” * :eek: Yes, I have heard that very sentence, and because I’m not the top woman on the totem pole, there’s nothing I can say or do (unless it’s my own Mass where I plan all the music).
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top