Definitely! Because the Church militant is full of sinners, it is “normal” to see the effects of sin and death happen within the confines of the Church. But the reason we are all in Church is to get better, not because we are saints.
Petrine Primacy and Supremacy doesn’t even have anything to do with your comment. Fact is, no matter what we believe about the Pope, the Catholic Church has been rocked by similar scandals as the one that has rocked the OCA and other Apostolic Churches. As Catholics we must be fair and honest here, let us not pretend that having the Pope has protected us from petty quarrels among bishops.
I never SAID that having a Pope has protected the Catholic Church from scandals or petty quarrels among bishops. All I said was that I am glad we have a Pope. Surely as a Roman Catholic I’m allowed to be glad about that.
Hmm …
- two quick, short answers.I listened to a few of his talks. I liked him too.
The answers are quick because there is no evidence that this occurred due to His Beatitude being “too anti-abortion” or too “anti gay marriage.” To make such a statement feeds into a rumour mill. I have to take the Metropolitan at his word. He was an abbot of a monastery. That does not always translate to Leading Hierarch and administrator of the Orthodox Church in America. He was made bishop and then Metropolitan within a two week period after a lengthy financial scandal. That is a lot of pressure.Hmm …
Diocese of the South would probably be a great fit for him since he spent so much time in the area, but there seem to be quite a few vacancies at the moment.
I didn’t think so, yet from everything an outsider can read about this (even with an extreme amount of skepticism), it seems like a holy man was chosen, but one who otherwise met resistence in many forms as relates to the administration of the Church. One cannot even be so sure as to how accurate that may be, but surely Metropolitan Jonah felt he was in a no win situation.
My own impression is that he is a good and holy man, very knowledgeable, and someone worthy of the role which he took.
We all need to be praying for these our brothers, and sisters in the OCA. I do believe the evil one is creating dangerous times for some in Orthodoxy in America at this time. I have spent almost as much time in OCA parishes, one in particular, as in my own ECC parish. The news and events of the past days, both nationally and another separate, but in the end probably related very troubling situation, have me deeply saddened and disturbed. The lack of transparency saddens me. It has left much room for speculation, and I suspect allowed some of the back story to go on which contributes to the actions this past week.There is no doubt he met resistance…from the evil one.
Prayers are appreciated.
Amen. I knew a priest (Catholic) personally who I later found out had been a molester and was eventually removed from his ministry. It really rocked me. Some of the scandal stories actually pushed me away from the Church for a while. Of course this is what Satan wants.
The Church is perfect, the people in it are not. We should remember that distinctionAmen. I knew a priest (Catholic) personally who I later found out had been a molester and was eventually removed from his ministry. It really rocked me. Some of the scandal stories actually pushed me away from the Church for a while. Of course this is what Satan wants.
One day I was thinking about it though, and three words just sort of popped into my head. ‘Jesus chose Judas.’ It was like a light switch had been turned on, and I understood: The Church has always had corruption, even from its inception, but that’s no reason to discount Her teachings or Sacraments. Like someone said in an earlier post, the gates of Hell will not prevail.
