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AlanFromWichita
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It depends. On a hot day, it might be appreciated.So you would be squirting people with a water gun at Christ’s crucifixion?
Alan
It depends. On a hot day, it might be appreciated.So you would be squirting people with a water gun at Christ’s crucifixion?
OK. Let me guess. You must have something against football. Anyway, first squirt guns, the next Mass will have clowns and balloon tying right after Communion.I thought you said you wanted entertainment? Football? REALLY?
I’m with Alan on this one, and with Ecclesiastes…a time to laugh and a time to cry. Chesterton said Angels fly because they take themselves lightly.
A waterpistol might be over the top but having recently returned from Rome where there is an amazing collection of glow-in-the-dark rosaires with beads the size of walnuts…I am starting to think that the proper waterpistol might not be that bad. No super-soakers though. I also seem to remember a field full of plastic religious cr*p around the Basilica of Our Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico city…perhaps it is a cultural thing.
OK. Let me guess. You must have something against football. Anyway, first squirt guns, the next Mass will have clowns and balloon tying right after Communion.
AlanFromWichita said:
That’s the spirit! You forgot one part. The clowns and balloons are the warm-up act to the Liturgical Dancers.
Alan
didn’t one survive or am I thinking of a difernt vampire movie. There are a couple vampire movies involving water pistols with holy water but I think the one I saw involved a super soaker, much more effective.If I remember correctly, they died. The vamps got them. Good thought though.![]()
Unfortunately, the quality of your other posts suggest that you might be serious.It depends. On a hot day, it might be appreciated.
Alan
You come across to me as being sooo passionate, judgmental, and spontaneous. :tsktsk:Unfortunately, the quality of your other posts suggest that you might be serious.![]()
Stick em up!! Assume the Orans position!!
Sorry, I couldn’t resist that one.![]()
No I am just a young Catholic who is sick of watching the generation that grew up in the 1960s and 1970s water down the faith. It because of that generation that i didn’t even really know what Catholcism was unitl about two years ago.You come across to me as being sooo passionate, judgmental, and spontaneous. :tsktsk:
That’s why I think I like you.
Yes, I am very “serious” that on a hot day, people might appreciate being shot with water from a water gun.
Alan
Ow, wow. Did something significant happen in your life that made the change?No I am just a young Catholic who is sick of watching the generation that grew up in the 1960s and 1970s water down the faith. It because of that generation that i didn’t even really know what Catholcism was unitl about two years ago.
Unfortunately I was raised in the Charismatic movement. But in my late teens I started to read and study my faith. Since then I have read many of the documents of the Church and had many a debate/discussion with my good friend who was a seminarian. I realized that what have been fed to us for the past few decades in our catechism classes is not the faith of our fathers or of Christ. Thus, to know what Catholicism really is one needs to read the documets of the councils of Trent, Vatican I, and Vatican II. One needs to read the major encyclicals of the Popes, inluding the late Holy Father, John Paul the great and information put out by the Congregation for the doctrine of the faithful. Furthermore, one can read great Catholic works like the Summa Theologica, and modern Catholic works like Cardinal Ratzinger’s book, “The Spirit of the Liturgy”. And one must remember that because the Church never changes here teachings, modern Church documents must be read in light of past Church documents.Ow, wow. Did something significant happen in your life that made the change?
Alan
That’s really good stuff. My kids are getting a very thorough Catholic education both in high school and grade school, and my kids have even been involved in “religion bowl” where they compete with other schools at the middle school level.Unfortunately I was raised in the Charismatic movement. But in my late teens I started to read and study my faith. Since then I have read many of the documents of the Church and had many a debate/discussion with my good friend who was a seminarian. I realized that what have been fed to us for the past few decades in our catechism classes is not the faith of our fathers or of Christ. Thus, to know what Catholicism really is one needs to read the documets of the councils of Trent, Vatican I, and Vatican II. One needs to read the major encyclicals of the Popes, inluding the late Holy Father, John Paul the great and information put out by the Congregation for the doctrine of the faithful. Furthermore, one can read great Catholic works like the Summa Theologica, and modern Catholic works like Cardinal Ratzinger’s book, “The Spirit of the Liturgy”. And one must remember that because the Church never changes here teachings, modern Church documents must be read in light of past Church documents.
That’s really good stuff. My kids are getting a very thorough Catholic education both in high school and grade school, and my kids have even been involved in “religion bowl” where they compete with other schools at the middle school level.
By contrast, my education in Catholic grade school was essentially nothing. I went to grades 1-8 in Catholic school (starting in 1965) and most of the teachers were nuns who, for the most part, didn’t know their subjects very well and taught squat about Catholicism. We had all kinds of politically correct stuff in these farces of religion books where we read about kids on drugs and feminism and racism and stuff like that – kind of a social issues propaganda book with religious overtones. Of course we heard stories about Jonah, but never actually opened a Bible throughout my whole time there.
Sure they taught us really strict posture and behavior in church, and how to behave properly and get First Communion and the sacraments. At least they did that – like I can’t stand it when I’m in Communion line (luckily I get to go first) and the people in front of me all wobble back and forth like Weebles Wobble but they don’t Fall Down – we were taught to walk a certain way that our heads stayed in a straight line.
In other words, the generation before ours passed along tradition but no theology. When our generation got there we started questioning things and getting poor answers. Unfortunately too many turned to entertainment. One thing I like about young kids now is that they are getting less bashful about opening their mouths and questioning things they don’t think are right – and not caving in. What took our generation by surprise, I think, was that being on the receiving end of such criticism from youngsters looks a whole lot different than being on the sending end. Thus when our kids stand up to us the way “we” dared stand up to our parents, we have no way to deal with it because our parents weren’t able to.
Btw later, after I posted it I thought I should have made a comment about “watering down” the faith with a water gun, so as not to deprive you of it, there it is.
Alan
Yea, I guess that you are right. You would have to be there.Our very own Irish priest did this same thing a summer ago. He used a “supersoaker” filled it up with holy water and went for it!
It was rather funny actually. SorryI guess ya had to be there.
It sounds like he is truly reverent, but is confident enough in it that he doesn’t have to go around acting all pious and stuff. From your description, he sounds like a man who can relate to both God and people.I think when you take stuff like this out of context it can sound so horrible. Our priest has a sense of humor and he was joking with those who, God forbid, refuse to crack a smile durning mass and this was a long standing joke where he would splash the holy water on everyone and tease people for looking so serious. He jested with this friendly Irish accent, it was in fun and he brought the house down bringing in that supersoaker. This priest was actually very reverent and never skipped a beat durning mass including a time when the alarm went off. I was always amazed by his stoic nature.