Michael Vick in NFL!

[Dale_M]

Possible NFL destinations for Michael Vick:

New England: The coach has clout, but VIck would be second string to Tom Brady

Miami: The coach doesn’t mind raising hackles, but just drafted a top quarterback

Oakland: the NFL’s Last Chance Saloon

Jacksonville: low profile team on which Vick could rehabilitate himself

Buffalo: also a low-flying team

Cincinnati: could use the help, but already has reputation problem with arrested players

San Francisco: coach would be a good influence on VIck and they need a top quarterback

Washington: they seem to be looking for a star quarterback

chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-28-vick-destinations,0,262598.story

 

[Matt33]

Michael Vick paid his debt. Whatever that means . And just like any other criminal is free to pursue A career. perhaps bagging groceries or selling cars on a shady lot. But when talking about profesional sports it is laughable to insinuate that he has a right to play. Just look at the word “play” the opposite of “work”. Equally as laughable are player’s unions for millionaires. Union in sports like football and baseball and basketball are a shame and a disgrace t people who really do have to worry about workers rights. Mr Vick has earned more than most of Americans will ever earn in thier lifetimes already. Should prof. Athletes get millions of dollars. Yes! better them than the owners. But it is truely a privalige and not a right. Would love to see Mr Vick gettng 8.00 an hor behind a humane society check in desk like some people have to do to feed thier families. A shame indeed that in this economy ANYONE would think he should ever play again. But he will probably get a team somewhere and yup, some out of work joe who worked his blue collar job for years will buy his jersey for his kid with money left over from an “estate” sell after he lost his house. What a wild ride we are on…

 

[stringbeanduck]

So it’s okay to ingage in animal cruality and be allowed to play football? What a very good roll model for the younger people.

 

[cthulhubryan]

I think the commish did the right thing. It should not be the league that keeps him out. The choice should be up to each team as to whether is possible production outweighs the extremely negative PR.

I cannot imagine any team with an animal mascot thinking Vick is a good idea. That would eliminate the Bills, Dolphins, Ravens, Bengals, Colts, Jaguars, Broncos, Sea Hawks, Cardinals, Rams, Eagles, Bears, Lions, Falcons, and Panthers. That leaves only 17 teams.

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

NFL is allowing Michael Vick back on the field under some type of probation.

Well, there’s a lack of integrity on the part of the NFL and Vick. Vick was charged with cruelty to animals having had them fight on his property and cruelly executed when the dogs failed to win or got old or injured.

Thirty-eight of the 40 pit bulls were rehabilitated by a CA rescue group. Two of the animals had to be put down.

Thieves, assaulters and drug dealers get second, even third chances. Why should this be different?

 

[shannyk]

*In some ways bob, I agree–BUT–it seems that pro athletes live by a different set of rules than the rest of us. I wouldn’t be permitted to come back to my place of employment, having done the same thing. It would be on my ‘resume’ for every new employer to see, and I’d probably have a REALLY hard time finding something else. That’s the problem I have with these situations–that there seems to be a different set of rules for the rest of us, than pro athletes. Look at Ray Lewis, pulease. He stabs and killed someone, and is playing in the NFL?

Where have our values gone to in this society? Not for me to judge their souls, but the NFL should not let these men back into the sport. My opinion. If you murder people, dogs, whatever…doesn’t matter…if you can throw or catch a ball…hey, we still love ya. *

agree WG but I don’t think many people take what he did seriously at all. I think he should be banned from the NFL for life. Anyone with a felony has a hard time getting a job aside from any time served. This is part of the game when you choose a life of crime. And what an insult to the NFL players who are upstanding guys who work hard to stay on rosters every year and are upstanding citizens! Vick needs to step off, step away and get a job and the quick E mart because that’s where he’s shown he belongs.

 

[mark_a]

NFL is allowing Michael Vick back on the field under some type of probation.

I think Vick would be a great kick returner, but he obviously lacks the complete QB package.

Well, there’s a lack of integrity on the part of the NFL and Vick. Vick was charged with cruelty to animals having had them fight on his property and cruelly executed when the dogs failed to win or got old or injured.

Please see my opinion above.

Thirty-eight of the 40 pit bulls were rehabilitated by a CA rescue group. Two of the animals had to be put down.

Catholic Answers has a pit bull rescue group??!?!?!?!?!?

 

[aicirt]

Thieves, assaulters and drug dealers get second, even third chances. Why should this be different?

What professions are you thinking about that would take back a thief, drug dealer, or a batterer? Only “professions” I know that do that are rap music and sports oh… politics. Would your employer take you back? How come you are held to a higher standard and these hooligans aren’t? Ah, they make big bucks for their backers and you don’t.

Vicks is a thug. So is that Brown character that beat up his dopey girlfriend (dopey because she took him back).

Vicks was blessed with some skill that took him out of the ghetto but instead of doing something to help animals or people he brutilized his dogs.

 

[whatevergirl]

*Sadly, the sports and entertainment industries, and maybe the way of the world in general these days …only cares…‘can this person make us money?’ If the answer is yes, if the NFL decides that Vicks can brings them money still, then it will take him back…if a particular team feels he can make them money, they will sign him. It’s that simple. It’s that sad. Money seems to cause many people to ignore the character and actions of the people they employ, unfortunately. *

 

[igator99]

NFL is allowing Michael Vick back on the field under some type of probation.

Well, there’s a lack of integrity on the part of the NFL and Vick. Vick was charged with cruelty to animals having had them fight on his property and cruelly executed when the dogs failed to win or got old or injured.

Thirty-eight of the 40 pit bulls were rehabilitated by a CA rescue group. Two of the animals had to be put down.

I can understand the outrage for what Vick did but come on. He has paid his debt to society. Heck in Korea they eat dogs on a regular basis. There is a picture I can’t get out of my mind of a dog getting slaughtered with about six other dogs chained and looking on. I love dogs but there are NFL players doing much worse things then what Vick did.

 

[aicirt]

I can understand the outrage for what Vick did but come on. He has paid his debt to society. Heck in Korea they eat dogs on a regular basis. There is a picture I can’t get out of my mind of a dog getting slaughtered with about six other dogs chained and looking on. I love dogs but there are NFL players doing much worse things then what Vick did.

We are not in Korea. Yes, they eat them, but do they execute them for the fun of it? Do they hang them to die? Breeding a dog so her pups can be used for baiting another dog into being vicious, beating an animal, drugging it so it doesn’t feel pain and putting it in a ring to fight to the death, is not our culture. And causing pain so one can gain $$ is morally wrong.

If there are NFL players doing much worse, then all the more reason why I don’t and wouldn’t support any of them.

 

[Matt33]

Thieves, assaulters and drug dealers get second, even third chances. Why should this be different?

How is he not getting another chance? He is out of jail and free to pursue job opportunities, (however if he invested right he should’nt have to.) If he was a 1st grade teacher would you advocate that he should be back in a school? Of course not. I think people confuse “paid his debt” with being allowed to play 16 sundays for millions of dollars.

 

[aicirt]

I think Vick would be a great kick returner, but he obviously lacks the complete QB package.

Please see my opinion above.

Catholic Answers has a pit bull rescue group??!?!?!?!?!?

No, Catholic Answers will only consider helping St. Bernards to recover from having slurped down the stuff in those kegs around their necks. They can be a hazard on the slopes.

It’s a California group that rescued the pit bulls.

 

[igator99]

We are not in Korea. Yes, they eat them, but do they execute them for the fun of it? Do they hang them to die? Breeding a dog so her pups can be used for baiting another dog into being vicious, beating an animal, drugging it so it doesn’t feel pain and putting it in a ring to fight to the death, is not our culture. And causing pain so one can gain $$ is morally wrong.

If there are NFL players doing much worse, then all the more reason why I don’t and wouldn’t support any of them.

The picture I saw of a Korean dog slaughter house I would consider extreme abuse. Hacking a dog to pieces while other dogs changed in line to get the same look on to me is a horror.

How many of those NFL players have beaten the snot out of their wives and have not spent one day in jail?

We are suppose to be Christians and forgive people. He has paid his debt to society and I forgive him. If you have no sin please be the first to cast a stone.

 

[Rascalking]

One can be pro life, worry about babies AND repulsed by Vick.

The NFL really is falling apart. A bunch of thungs and criminals.

 

[whatevergirl]

The picture I saw of a Korean dog slaughter house I would consider extreme abuse. Hacking a dog to pieces while other dogs changed in line to get the same look on to me is a horror.

How many of those NFL players have beaten the snot out of their wives and have not spent one day in jail?

We are suppose to be Christians and forgive people. He has paid his debt to society and I forgive him. If you have no sin please be the first to cast a stone.

*This has nothing to do with the common public forgiving Vick. I don’t judge his state of soul…and we can’t. We are to be forgiving people as Christians. But, what this IS about, is why these athletes and celebs have a different set of rules than you and me? If we did this, our employers would not be accepting us back…and it would be very hard to find work elsewhere. Is that right? Maybe not, but it’s reality for the rest of the world who commit crimes, sans athletes and celebs. It seems that as a nation, we place our priorities and what we consider to be heroic, on how far a person can throw a ball…or whatever. Our soldiers who are dying and sufferng in hospitals everyday for this country for one example, are attacked by the mainstream media, while football players who hurt people and animals are praised. That is what this is about, not being unforgiving. *

 

[BillP]

*In some ways bob, I agree–BUT–it seems that pro athletes live by a different set of rules than the rest of us. I wouldn’t be permitted to come back to my place of employment, having done the same thing. *

*I don’t believe you would have been prosecuted, and I certainly don’t believe you would have served 2 years in prison for his offence.

He has to disclose is status as a convicted felon, there are many, many companies willing to see beyond a felony conviction (thank God, or there would be no possibility of rehabilitation!).

*Look at Ray Lewis, pulease. He stabs and killed someone, and is playing in the NFL? *

*Talk about detraction! You seem misinformed. not only was Lewis not convicted, the prosecutors themselves dismissed the charges.

During the trial, several witnesses whose testimony would supposedly prove Lewis’ guilt had altered their stories initially given to investigators.Their testimonies were supposed to show that Ray Lewis hit, kicked or stabbed someone, and that he even admitted as much afterwards. Instead, the vast majority of testimony had either been inconclusive, or else supported the defense’s contention that Lewis acted solely as a peacemaker, trying to prevent a tragedy that he would be tied to and potentially hurt his career. According to ESPN legal analyst, Alan J. Baverman, “as to Ray Lewis, there is no evidence that he assisted anybody in a stabbing or encouraged anybody to do a stabbing which would make him a party to felony murder, malice murder, or felony assault with a knife.”

• Where have our values gone to in this society? Not for me to judge their souls, but the NFL should not let these men back into the sport. My opinion. If you murder people, dogs, whatever…doesn’t matter…if you can throw or catch a ball…hey, we still love ya. *

Well, values like “innocent until proven guilty”, and “everybody deserves a second chance” seem to be doing fine.

 

[whatevergirl]

*Ok Bill…whatever. If you think that these types should be held to a different standard than you and me…I can’t change your mind. *

 

[Kardinal]

why? why MUST he play? if you or I did the same thing, we wouldn’t be welcomed back to our places of employment with open arms…

Respectfully, my friend, if we were as good at what we do as Michael Vick is at what he does…yes, we would be welcomed back with open arms.

Personally, I think he should be shunned by the entire NFL.

Why? To what end? What value would that have? He went to JAIL. Does not that sufficiently prove that we as a society disapprove of what he did? And he was suspended from the NFL as well. Does that not sufficiently prove that the NFL disapproves?

What value would it have to ban him for life from the NFL? Is banning for life a proportionate response (an essential part of the Christian virtue of Justice)?

 

[whatevergirl]

Respectfully, my friend, if we were as good at what we do as Michael Vick is at what he does…yes, we would be welcomed back with open arms.

Why? To what end? What value would that have? He went to JAIL. Does not that sufficiently prove that we as a society disapprove of what he did? And he was suspended from the NFL as well. Does that not sufficiently prove that the NFL disapproves?

What value would it have to ban him for life from the NFL? Is banning for life a proportionate response (an essential part of the Christian virtue of Justice)?

*Now, that makes some sense to me. That is a good way of wording it.

I sitll think that he shouldn’t be permitted to play in the NFL again. Kind of like a lawyer who loses his license for doing something illegal, or a doctor who loses his license to practice for criminal activity. Like I said, there is a different set of rules for those who are not in the celeb/athlete spotlight. *