Mind Transfer

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Alright, this has got to be the strangest question I’ve ever asked…but anyway:

What do you think about the possibility of mind transfer? Is it even a possible thing?
You can check out some explanations on Google if you have no idea what I’m talking about.

This type of technology is used all of the time in sci-fi…like when human people have their minds temporarily downloaded into a computer/robot, or even switch bodies temporarily with each other. Examples where this is used include Star Trek, Stargate, Battlestar Galactica, Star Wars EU, and maybe even The Matrix…just to name a few.

I think it seems like a cool idea, but obviously there are profound philosophical implications.

Some of these problems are are simpler than others: For example, no matter what type of body they are in (whether it be organic or inorganic) a person is still a person and must still have a spiritual soul enabling them to have rational functions. Simple enough.

But there are harder questions to answer…like is this hypothetical process even possible?

I’ve heard the argument that, since spirit is higher than matter, and an effect cannot be greater than its cause, no material action can affect the immaterial/spiritual soul.

However, keep in mind that we’re only changing the physical location of the soul, not altering the nature of the soul itself. There’s also the fact that the spiritual soul can be separated from the body, even though this is an unnatural state for humans.

I’d like it to be a possible thing, but I really don’t know what to think right now. Any ideas?
 
(On second thought, is this even the right forum folder to post this in? I’ll move it if it’s not.) :confused:
 
If we could replicate the brain, who knows!

I’d do it. It means eternal life 🙂
 
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svoboda:
I’d do it. It means eternal life 🙂
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Phssh. Maybe. But it still wouldn’t be nearly as cool as having a glorified body in heaven that can move, unrestricted by any material limitations whatsoever, at the speed of thought. 😃

And actually, it would really only mean a longer life…indefinite, but not eternal. There would, eventually, be that one time that you really die before they transfer you into another body. 😛
 
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Phssh. Maybe. But it still wouldn’t be nearly as cool as having a glorified body in heaven that can move, unrestricted by any material limitations whatsoever, at the speed of thought. 😃

And actually, it would really only mean a longer life…indefinite, but not eternal. There would, eventually, be that one time that you really die before they transfer you into another body. 😛
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Yes, but imagine there is no heaven and this life is all we’ve got. Are you sure there is a heaven?

I bet now you are coming over to my side… :Or should I say the dark side, Master Jedi? 😃
 
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svoboda:
If we could replicate the brain, who knows!

I’d do it. It means eternal life 🙂
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I would to. I want to see what happens to the world in 200, 300 years.

But if they ever get it I’ll be long gone.
 
I believe that my spirit will live on, to a greater or lesser extent, in everyone that I know. In essence, every time we have human interface we do a small amount of mind melding. Crude and faulty, but the exchange no less takes place.

A person who has become a mystic will be connected to others in ways that the mystic is not consciously aware but others will be forever changed, sometimes significantly.

There are different ways of modeling spiritual phenomena, and one I think of has kind of a “group” consciousness that is somewhere in our psyche between our consciously focused attention and the spirits that are holy. This group consciousness lives on, IMO, forever. After individuals die, they may no longer have a point of view because they don’t have a brain from which to attend to this point of view, but every conscious act and subconscious quirk finds its way to affect those for whom the Holy Spirit needs such an effect.

The way we as individuals live forever is to resign ourselves to building the group consciousness in a way that is pleasing to our own spirits.
Job 14:
1 Man born of woman is short-lived and full of trouble, 2 Like a flower that springs up and fades, swift as a shadow that does not abide. 3 Upon such a one will you cast your eyes so as to bring him into judgment before you, 4 Can a man be found who is clean of defilement? There is none, 5 however short his days. You know the number of his months; you have fixed the limit which he cannot pass. 6 Look away from him and let him be, while, like a hireling, he completes his day.

7 For a tree there is hope, if it be cut down, that it will sprout again and that its tender shoots will not cease. 8 Even though its root grow old in the earth, and its stump die in the dust, 9 Yet at the first whiff of water it may flourish again and put forth branches like a young plant. 10 But when a man dies, all vigor leaves him; when man expires, where then is he?

11 As when the waters of a lake fail, or a stream grows dry and parches, 12 So men lie down and rise not again. Till the heavens are no more, they shall not awake, nor be roused out of their sleep. 13 Oh, that you would hide me in the nether world and keep me sheltered till your wrath is past; would fix a time for me, and then remember me! 14 When a man has died, were he to live again, all the days of my drudgery I would wait, until my relief should come. 15 You would call, and I would answer you; you would esteem the work of your hands.

16 Surely then you would count my steps, and not keep watch for sin in me. 17 1 My misdeeds would be sealed up in a pouch, and you would cover over my guilt. 18 But as a mountain falls at last and its rock is moved from its place, 19 As waters wear away the stones and floods wash away the soil of the land, so you destroy the hope of man. 20 You prevail once for all against him and he passes on; with changed appearance you send him away. 21 If his sons are honored, he is not aware of it; if they are in disgrace, he does not know about them. 22 Only his own flesh pains him, and his soul grieves for him.
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Alan
 
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I would to. I want to see what happens to the world in 200, 300 years.

But if they ever get it I’ll be long gone.
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As a parent, this is something I’ve thought about a lot.

Once I thought I read in the Bible a passage about a parent with a good son dying – something like, “and if he dies, it is like he is not dead at all, for there is another to take is place to avenge and carry on the work…” – or something like that. I cannot find it, though, so I am not sure it was Biblical.

Consider giving yourself to the extent you can see yourself written on the faces of the children and can trust that they will carry on. We won’t get to share it but we confer our enthusiasm to them. It’s a really weird concept, and I got quite a dose of the idea when my own father died. A few days before he died, I asked him how to handle a particular situation involving his finances and he said with perfect resignation, “it seems I’m not in control of things any more.” I will remember that line forever.

Alan

edit>> p.s. I think this is not limited to physical children, but all those we have touched throughout our lives.
 
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