Missal for Tridentine Mass

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I have a quick question: What version of the Bible is used in the 1962 Missal?
 
johndoe100 said:
I have a quick question: What version of the Bible is used in the 1962 Missal?
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The Latin Vulgate, but English-speaking hand missal had various approved translations, mostly the Douay-Rheims and some more modern derivatives, I believe.
 
I recommend the 1945 Fr. Lasance Missal. Anyone know of a good pre 1945 missal??
 
Does the 1961 St Joseph Missal have all the propers? Also, is anyone familiar with the 1962 Jesus Mary & Joseph Missal?
 
I see. Well, I found one on eBay for about $20 so I think I might just jump on it. That’s probably the best price I’m going to find anywhere.
 
I can’t remember if I posted this earlier, but Ihave it all on my iPhone 4. If anyone needs the URL’s I will post it.
 
I have a 1956 Missal from my youth–is there a difference between it and the 1962 issue and would it work for the current Tridentine Mass?
Most grateful for any help–
 
millstone said:
I have a 1956 Missal from my youth–is there a difference between it and the 1962 issue and would it work for the current Tridentine Mass?
Most grateful for any help–
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The differences would be minuscule. St. Joseph’s name wouldn’t be in the Communicantes of the Roman Canon, the word “perfidious” would still be in the Good Friday prayer for the Jews, and there will be a handful of feast days that were suppressed in the 1962 calendar.

Anyway. To anybody who hasn’t mentioned it yet, how does the Biretta Books edition of the Daily Missal stand up to the Baronius Press version? birettabooks.com/go/webstore/product/roman_catholic_daily_missal/
 
alwayslooking said:
The two most popular missals are the one from Angelus Press and the one from Baronius Press.
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  - [baroniuspress.com/book.php?wid=56&bid=4](http://www.baroniuspress.com/book.php?wid=56&bid=4)
  - [angeluspress.org/oscatalog/item/8043/1962-roman-catholic-daily-missal](http://www.angeluspress.org/oscatalog/item/8043/1962-roman-catholic-daily-missal)
Fr. Z has reviewed both and there are sever threads on this subject in the Traditional Catholic forum.
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  - [wdtprs.com/blog/2008/02/review-angelus-press-hand-missal/](http://wdtprs.com/blog/2008/02/review-angelus-press-hand-missal/)
  - [wdtprs.com/blog/2008/01/review-baronius-press-1962-hand-missal/](http://wdtprs.com/blog/2008/01/review-baronius-press-1962-hand-missal/)
There are several other EF missals on the market today, but they are all reprints and not necessarily re-typeset. If made before 1956 they won’t include the revised Holy Week.

St. Andrew Daily Missal (1945)
- id34104.securedata.net/libers.com/merchantmanager/product_info.php?products_id=20
St. Joseph Daily Missal (1953)
- id34104.securedata.net/libers.com/merchantmanager/product_info.php?products_id=19
The New Roman Missal (1945)
- traditionalcatholicgoods.com/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=48&
New Marian Missal (Unsure on Year)
- loretopubs.org/marian-daily-missal.html
Blessed Sacrament Prayerbook (Unsure on Year)
- loretopubs.org/blessed-sacrament-prayerbook.html

I personally use a 1961 St. Joseph Daily Missal. You can find used missals on ebay in good shape for under $20.00. Just remember try to get as close to a 1962 publication date as possible without going after 1963, and try not to go before 1956.
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Great links, thanks:thumbsup: I will check it out later on.
 
ready said:
I’m intererested in purchasing a missal for the Tridentine Mass. Is there a particular missal that is better than the others? Is there one that is worse than the others? Thanks in advance for any help with this!
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The Roman Catholic Daily Missal (1962) is a newly typeset, based on The Ideal Missal, revised by Sylvester P. Juegens, S.M., S.T.D (Turnhout, Belgium: Henri Proost & Co., 1962); it bore the Nihil Obstat of Arthur J. Scanlan, S.T.D., and the Imprimatur of C.Eykens (Antwerp)

This version also cites the 1983 and 1917 CIC for the requirements on penitential days.

MSGR. Arthur J. Scanlan died in the year 1974. I can’t find out where C. Eykens is but my best guess is that he passed on. This means that this “newly typeset” edition that is “based” on the “revised” book The Ideal MIssal that also has newly cited material (1983 CIC) has not been approved by the Holy See. It says that it is. But how can it be? These guys are deceased.
The nihil obstat and imprimatur are declarations that a book or pamphlet is free of doctrinal or moral error.
The person empowered to issue the imprimatur is the local ordinary of the author or of the place of publication. (CIC 824)
The imprimatur granted for a publication is not valid for later editions of the same work or for translations into another language. For these, new imprimaturs are required. (CIC 824)

Since this book is referencing the old imprimatur then the new version has not been checked out by the Vatican. So this book has NOT been declared free from doctrinal or moral error.

Regarding the Roman Missal by Baronius Press. Both the Nihil Obstat and the Imprimatur are both still alive. Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz, Bishop of Lincoln NE (the Imprimatur) retired in 2012 and Msgr. Timothy J. Thornburn (Nihil Obstat) is alive and well it seems in Nebraska.
 
I’m intererested in purchasing a missal for the Tridentine Mass. Is there a particular missal that is better than the others? Is there one that is worse than the others? Thanks in advance for any help with this!
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I am a big fan of the 1945 edition of the St. Andrew’s Daily Missal. The best part about this Missal is the commentary, which cannot be found in other missals I have used over the years. There is a tremendous volume of invaluable commentary for each Sunday, as well as for the Mass readings, etc. It is also one of the more traditional missals I have read. My only complaint is font size. While not terrible, it’s not as good as the Baronius Press Missal when it comes to font size.

I love the morning prayers for the Baronius Press Missal. So, now, I use the Baronius Press Missal for morning and evening prayers, and the St. Andrew’s Missal for Mass.
 
ocdnms said:
birettabooks.com/go/webstore/…_daily_missal/

I would highly recommend going to this website to see what this Missal has to offer. I know that eventually I will be ordering this one. It is also available in leather cover.
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Have you ordered it? If so, what do you think?

The Angelus Press and Biretta Books editions seem to be the exactly the same, with the exception of a slight difference in size.

Compare the descriptions:
birettabooks.com/go/webstore/product/roman_catholic_daily_missal
angeluspress.org/1962-Roman-Catholic-Daily-Missal

The descriptions are exactly the same. Both have 1,980 pages. The only difference is that the AP dimensions are given as 6.75 x 4.25 and the BB dimensions are given as 6.25 x 4.75 x 1.5; also, the AP has gilt-edged pages while the BB does not. Unfortunately, BB does not have any pictures on its website, save for one that is so small that you can’t make anything out.

In comparing the Angelus Press and Baronius Press missals, both have the easy-to-read English translations on the outside of the pages and the Latin in smaller type squashed in the middle. Why would they do that? It should be the opposite or at least the same font size/space used for both! From reading what most people have written, the BP Latin is even more difficult to read than the AP, but in looking at the pictures taken by Fr. Z, they appear to be about the same, with a slight edge to AP, as people have said. But the BP has whiter paper, which I like, and is seems to be better laid-out in my opinion.

Compare:
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with[

http://www.wdtprs.com/images/08_02_23_angeluspress3.jpg](http://www.wdtprs.com/images/08_02_23_angeluspress3.jpg)
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for the “squashed-Latin” problem

and

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for the layouts

I’d even consider the 1945 St. Andrew Daily Missal that many people seem to like, but I can’t find any pictures of it and it has the Kyriale in modern notation, instead of Gregorian! How dare they! 🙂 That’s actually a deal-breaker for me. I just can’t stand modern notation with Gregorian chant. Plus, it would not have the 1962 updated Holy Week liturgies, saints’ feast days, etc. A lot of people have good things to say about the Fr. Lasance New Roman Missal but it has the same issues as the SADM (no pictures of inside - at least that’s an issue for me, since I can’t actually see for myself what it looks like - and not updated; don’t know about the Kyriale notation - I would hope that it uses Gregorian notation).

Does anybody know about the relative spacing given to the English and Latin in the FLNRM or have any other comments on it? How about the relative merits of the various English translations? Is it really much of a problem using a 1945 missal for the 1962 Mass, especially during Holy Week?

I personally don’t like the looks of the St. Joseph Daily Missal at all.

In looking at this picture of the New Marian Missal that somebody uploaded to Amazon.com (which has a lovely full-color picture of Our Lady), it appears that the only Latin it has in it is for the Mass! That’s probably why it only has 1,445 pages.

So, I don’t know.

Yes, I know, I’m extremely picky.

Maybe I’ll go with the Angelus Press.
 
dcana said:
In comparing the Angelus Press and Baronius Press missals, both have the easy-to-read English translations on the outside of the pages and the Latin in smaller type squashed in the middle. Why would they do that?
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Precisely, especially given that the English is not official and rather boring and awkward sounding, especially in the propers. Could be used as a guide, though, but the English training wheels have to come off some time.
 
StGerardMajella said:
I am a big fan of the 1945 edition of the St. Andrew’s Daily Missal. The best part about this Missal is the commentary, which cannot be found in other missals I have used over the years. There is a tremendous volume of invaluable commentary for each Sunday, as well as for the Mass readings, etc.
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I agree that the commentary for each Sunday in the St. Andrew’s missal is invaluable, almost like a catechesis all in itself, really.
 
I have come across a possible “solution” to the problem of having a pre-1955 missal that does not contain the updated Holy Week liturgies.

Angelus Press publishes a $10, 190-page missalette called the Sacred Triduum Missal that could be used instead of a regular daily missal on Holy Thursday, Good Friday, and Holy Saturday. Here is its description:

A traditional missalette for Thursday, Friday, and Saturday of Holy Week according to the 1962 rubrics.

This book is very helpful if you do not have a 1958 or later missal which contains the revised rite of Holy Week of Pope Pius XII. Surprisingly, many people who do have the revised Holy Week in their missal, still like to use the Sacred Triduum Missal because the type is fairly large and the entire rite is laid out so that you do not have to flip back and forth.

This book contains the entire ceremonies for Holy Thursday evening, Good Friday’s Solemn Liturgy and the Paschal Vigil with parallel Latin and English texts with rubrics in violet.

👍
 
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