Missal of 1962 advice

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Those would work well. I prefer the full Missal as it helps me with my Latin to be able to read the propers in both languages.

Personally I use the Baronius Missal.
 
Any missal which helps you to understand and pray the Mass better is a good missal. The 62 Missal you see there covers both the Latin and the English so you can follow either way.
 
I too am so tempted to get one. I have not been to a TLM in person but have read a lot and seen parts of them online and such. For some reason I find myself to really be drawn to the TLM, which is odd as I have never even been to one.

I look at these 1962 about once a week. I finally got to see one in my hands at a bookstore and almost bought it. I just didnt know how much I would get out of it being I dont currently attend a TLM.

It did seem a bit complicated. It reminded me of my book Christian Prayer.
 
I think the st. joseph one might be better for you.
I have the other one and it could be confusing to someone who is just starting to attend the EF rite in my opinion. It is a shame the Faulton Sheen missal is not in print because that one would be the best!
Hello,

I am looking for advice about Missals. Would these work well for a novice like myself?

cantius.org/go/webstore/product/1962_missal_my_sunday_missal/

Or,
cantius.org/go/webstore/product/roman_catholic_daily_missal/

Best,
fish90
 
I too am so tempted to get one. I have not been to a TLM in person but have read a lot and seen parts of them online and such. For some reason I find myself to really be drawn to the TLM, which is odd as I have never even been to one.

I look at these 1962 about once a week. I finally got to see one in my hands at a bookstore and almost bought it. I just didnt know how much I would get out of it being I dont currently attend a TLM.

It did seem a bit complicated. It reminded me of my book Christian Prayer.
The Angelus Press 1962 Missal is terrific. In addition to the mass, it contains so much information about the faith it’s like having a mini-encyclopedia in your hand. I think you could derive much usefulness from it even outside TLM. You can take it to the N.O. and:
  • Read the traditional mass readings for that date in addition to what is read during the N.O.
  • Read some of the prayers that were left out of the new mass
  • Read in the margins the origins of many of the words and actions done by the priest
  • Read interesting stuff during the next uninspired homily about God’s love
 
I like the Angelus Press 1962 missal too. Its the one I use daily. it has so many prayers that help me with my life on a daily basis. I also have a shelf full of other old Roman missals, Marian, Maryknoll, St. Andrew, St. Joseph.
 
Snippits from Finding the Right Missal
There is a pretty insightful article from the Latin Mass Magazine Vol.17 No.2 Spring 2008 by Michael P. Foley on the comparison of the most popular missals in the Extraordinary Form
The older the missal, the more it is at variance with the 1962 typical edition currently sanctioned for use. A Missal originally published before 1955, for instance, does not have the right Holy Week, and has the movable Solemnity of Saint Joseph the Worker on May1.
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Saint Joseph**
A fairly simple beginner’s missal, and one that was popular before the Council, is the Saint Joseph Daily Missal. The Ordinary of the Mass is presented on opposite pages in Latin and English while the Propers are in English only. Like most missals, it contains an explanation of Mass, vestment, etc., and a brief introduction to the meaning of the Sunday or feast; it also has a treasury of prayers and (somewhat sentimental) colour illustrations. Bonaventure Publications has reprinted the 1953 edition, which contains the new office of the Assumption but not the new Holy Week.
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New Marian**
Father Sylvester Juergen’s New Marian Missal for Daily Mass is from January 1960 and therefore has the new Holy Week; the Jews, however, are still perfidious and Saint Joseph is not in the canon. The Marian Missal has a little more Latin that the Saint Joseph: beside a bilingual Ordinary, the Introit, Gradual, Alleluia/Tract, Offertory, and Communion Verse are in Latin as well as English. The missal also includes several devotions and introductions to the Mass and calendar. Its Bueronese graphics are an improvement over the Saint Joseph, though its full-page illustrations are also sentimental and not in colour as they were before. The new publisher, Mary Immaculate Queen Centre, offers the Missal in a handsome white or black leather cover, though the lettering bleeds somewhat through the pages.
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Angelus Press**
Father Juergens also edited a much more comprehensive Ideal Missal 1962, and this has become the basis for the Roman Catholic Daily Missal in 1962, and this has become the basis for the Roman Catholic Daily Missal, published by the SSPX-affiliated Angelus Press. The Angelus Missal is impressive: 1,980 gilded pages that contain just about everything: complete Latin and English for the Mass, a compendium of prayers and doctrines, numerous devotions and litanies, parts of the Divine Office (including Tenebrae), seasonal blessing (such as for Easter lamb), the Rites of Baptism, Confirmation, and Extreme Unction and a Kyriale of chant notation. The Angelus Missal is a also true 1962 missal, containing Saint Joseph’s name in the canon and the five beautiful prefaces borrowed from the eighth-century Gallican Rite.
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Baronius Press**
The Daily Missal and Liturgical Manual, published by Baronius Press in conjunction with the FSSP, is the most recent. This, too, is a true 1962 missal: 2,222 gilded pages containing - because it is based on a similar source as Angelus’ - practically the same material. The differences between the two are difficult to evaluate. The Baronius Missal has Summorum Pontificum while Angelus Missal has a nice exposition entitled “Your Mass and Your Life.” The Baronius includes an excerpt from Gueranger’s Liturgical Year and information from the latest Enchiridion of Indulgences, while the Angelus includes the Rite of other Sacraments. The Baronius has a Mass supplement for the U.S. and U.K. while the Angelus has proper feasts for the U.S. and Canada. The Baronius lacks the explanatory marginalia for the ordinary of the Mass that the Angelus has, but this renders the section more readable. The Baronius has a leather cover, and it comes in white, black, or burgundy; but the Angelus has finer, crisper paper, imported from France.
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Father Stedman Missal**
Of course, one could circumvent this conundrum entirely by thinking small. Neumann Press has republished My Sunday Missal, “explained by Father Stedman”. Measuring only 3 1/8 " x 5 1/8", the Father Stedman Missal was a popular pocket missal in the 1940s and 1950s, and it came in several editions, including all-English, large-print, and all-Lent. Every one of them contained a surprising amount of information, from explanations of the sacred vessels and vestments (as with larger missals) to pithy yet thoughtful explanations of the occasion. the Neuman Press edition has large print, a Latin-English Ordinary, all-English Propers for every Sunday and principal feast, and for the first time, a revised Holy Week. It is a worthy heir to the Father Stedman legacy.

Saint Andrew
Yet if only Baronius and Angelus had based their editions on the Saint Andrew Daily Missal instead, we might have had the perfect Platonic Form of a lay missal.

Benefiting on every page from the scholarly heft of Dom Gaspar Lefebvre (no relation to Archbishop Marcel), the Saint Andrew Missal remains the best compendium of liturgical knowledge in existence.

Maps of ancient Roman procession routes and of the Holy Land abound, along with devotions, and the Office.

Every season is prefaced by outstanding historical, doctrinal, and liturgical “Notes,” and every Mass by a superb explanation.

http://extraordinaryfromsingapore.blogspot.com/2008/08/finding-right-missal.html
 
I guess the first missal I cited was the Father Stedman and the other was the Angelus Press version.

Thanks to all,
fish90
 
I am very uncomfortable supporting anything that has to do with SSPX…I am looking more at the Baronius.

Are the Baronius pages gold or yellow? The pictures make it look bright yellow.
 
I own the one from Angelus Press, and LOVE IT!!! 🙂 🙂
I second the vote for the one from Angelus Press.

Fr. Z did a review of it a year or two ago… It came off as slightly superior in his view to the Baronius Press one.

For my money though, here is the selling point:

Angelus’s Press’s Missal is beautiful like Baronius’s, digitally retypset like Baronius’s, but MADE IN THE USA.

I am sick and tired of everybody importing everything from other countries and then wondering why our economy is tanking…

So…

I recommend going with the Angelus Press one.

Peace!
 
I bought the Baronius Press missal about this time last year. I’m very fond of it, and even though I don’t get to go to Mass in the E.F. very often, I consult the missal frequently for the many beautiful traditional prayers contained therein. Cathguy pointed out his concern about imported products such as the Baronius missal & therefore he favoured the U.S.-produced Angelus Press one. As I don’t live in the U.S. or the U.K., I didn’t really have an option but to buy an imported missal! Personally, I would not be quick to give my support to the SSPX though…

Anyway, I know jpy gave a missal comparison earlier, but you might be interested in the comparison laid out on the website of Southwell Books in England - HERE. It’s in the form of a table so it’s easy to weigh up the pros and cons of the various missals they have in stock. Although you are new to the E.F. you may find that the St Joseph missal has a few drawbacks - no Kyriale (musical notation), Propers are in English only, etc… The Roman Missal is more substantial than the St Joseph one in terms of number of pages. On the other hand, the font used in the St Joseph missal is slightly bigger…It’s really up to you though because in truth most of the “main” 1962 missals that are out there are quite good. As ProVobis said, the best missal for you is the one that helps you understand & pray the Mass better.
 
I bought the Baronius Press missal about this time last year. I’m very fond of it, and even though I don’t get to go to Mass in the E.F. very often, I consult the missal frequently for the many beautiful traditional prayers contained therein. Cathguy pointed out his concern about imported products such as the Baronius missal & therefore he favoured the U.S.-produced Angelus Press one. As I don’t live in the U.S. or the U.K., I didn’t really have an option but to buy an imported missal! Personally, I would not be quick to give my support to the SSPX though…

Anyway, I know jpy gave a missal comparison earlier, but you might be interested in the comparison laid out on the website of Southwell Books in England - HERE. It’s in the form of a table so it’s easy to weigh up the pros and cons of the various missals they have in stock. Although you are new to the E.F. you may find that the St Joseph missal has a few drawbacks - no Kyriale (musical notation), Propers are in English only, etc… The Roman Missal is more substantial than the St Joseph one in terms of number of pages. On the other hand, the font used in the St Joseph missal is slightly bigger…It’s really up to you though because in truth most of the “main” 1962 missals that are out there are quite good. As ProVobis said, the best missal for you is the one that helps you understand & pray the Mass better.
NPC makes an interesting point: Angelus Press is the official publishing concern of the SSPX.

But I doubt very much they make a big profit off it. It does not concern me (and I am not a supporter of the society… much more an FSSP ICKSP kind of guy!)

Here is Fr. Zuhlsdorf’s review:
wdtprs.com/blog/2008/02/review-angelus-press-hand-missal/

I doubt VERY much that the binder in the US who makes the leather cover and mass produces the book is a SSPX concern.

The economics of book printing is similar to that of a pencil. There are all sorts of products that need to be sourced and all sorts of companies involved in the process. I want my dollars spent in the USA at American places of business AND production… NOT China… or even India if I can help it.

The Baronius Missal is made in India. That at least is a free country, and it is understandable because Baronius is a UK enterprise, and the UK obviously has a historic interest and partnership with India.

But I flatly refuse to buy ANYTHING made in China.

It AMAZES me that some seem to have a problem with SSPX publishing which prints here in the USA, but DO NOT have a problem with things made in China, like most of Ignatius Press’s books.

Doesn’t it strike anyone as immoral to have Catholic books printed in a Communist Country with forced abortions and a persecuted Church?

Catholic teaching leads me to believe both in subsidiarity and, more than any other economic model, distributism.

I would simply ask my fellow Americans to buy American wherever possible. This is just common sense.
 
NPC makes an interesting point: Angelus Press is the official publishing concern of the SSPX.

But I doubt very much they make a big profit off it. It does not concern me (and I am not a supporter of the society… much more an FSSP ICKSP kind of guy!)

Here is Fr. Zuhlsdorf’s review:
wdtprs.com/blog/2008/02/review-angelus-press-hand-missal/

I doubt VERY much that the binder in the US who makes the leather cover and mass produces the book is a SSPX concern.

The economics of book printing is similar to that of a pencil. There are all sorts of products that need to be sourced and all sorts of companies involved in the process. I want my dollars spent in the USA at American places of business AND production… NOT China… or even India if I can help it.

The Baronius Missal is made in India. That at least is a free country, and it is understandable because Baronius is a UK enterprise, and the UK obviously has a historic interest and partnership with India.

But I flatly refuse to buy ANYTHING made in China.

It AMAZES me that some seem to have a problem with SSPX publishing which prints here in the USA, but DO NOT have a problem with things made in China, like most of Ignatius Press’s books.

Doesn’t it strike anyone as immoral to have Catholic books printed in a Communist Country with forced abortions and a persecuted Church?

Catholic teaching leads me to believe both in subsidiarity and, more than any other economic model, distributism.

I would simply ask my fellow Americans to buy American wherever possible. This is just common sense.
When I bought my missal - the Baronius Press missal- I just bought it from a bookshop…It was one of the very few times in recent years that I actually bought from a “real” shop as opposed to online… The Baronius missal was the only one they had in the shop & I knew it was a highly regarded missal - so despite all the other good choices out there now, I’m happy with what I got!

Cathguy, I understand your desire to support the U.S. economy - of course it’s important in these difficult times…I try to buy Irish when I can, but sometimes I just don’t have an option but to go elsewhere (online) - I’m quite sure that no Irish publisher is publishing the 1962 Missal; there simply wouldn’t be the demand. Another thing is that prices in Ireland, generally, are simply too high - our economy is collapsing, people aren’t spending, yet very few are significantly lowering their prices (except some supermarkets in competition with one another). They are being driven by greed, but that greed is running our economy into the ground - the point is that, as much as I would like to buy from an Irish seller, if I can get a book cheaper online - which I usually can - then I will buy online, usually from the U.S. or the U.K.

As for the SSPX publications - you do have a point if it’s a choice between a U.S. produced book and one produced in China, for example…I’m certainly not passing judgement on anyone who buys from Angelus Press - just that specifically in relation to the missals there are a number of other very well produced missals by Catholic publishers…That said, Angelus do have some interesting books that likely can’t be gotten elsewhere, such as the Latin and English Breviary, which I’ve been tempted to buy - so I’ll never say never:D
 
I own the one from Angelus Press, and LOVE IT!!! 🙂 🙂
I just wanted to make it clear, that the Angelus Press missal and the Baronius Press missal are practically the same as far as contents inside the book, with the exception of print size. Angelus Press’s missal is the one with bigger print size.

That’s why I went with that one.
 
When I bought my missal - the Baronius Press missal- I just bought it from a bookshop…It was one of the very few times in recent years that I actually bought from a “real” shop as opposed to online… The Baronius missal was the only one they had in the shop & I knew it was a highly regarded missal - so despite all the other good choices out there now, I’m happy with what I got!

Cathguy, I understand your desire to support the U.S. economy - of course it’s important in these difficult times…I try to buy Irish when I can, but sometimes I just don’t have an option but to go elsewhere (online) - I’m quite sure that no Irish publisher is publishing the 1962 Missal; there simply wouldn’t be the demand. Another thing is that prices in Ireland, generally, are simply too high - our economy is collapsing, people aren’t spending, yet very few are significantly lowering their prices (except some supermarkets in competition with one another). They are being driven by greed, but that greed is running our economy into the ground - the point is that, as much as I would like to buy from an Irish seller, if I can get a book cheaper online - which I usually can - then I will buy online, usually from the U.S. or the U.K.

As for the SSPX publications - you do have a point if it’s a choice between a U.S. produced book and one produced in China, for example…I’m certainly not passing judgement on anyone who buys from Angelus Press - just that specifically in relation to the missals there are a number of other very well produced missals by Catholic publishers…That said, Angelus do have some interesting books that likely can’t be gotten elsewhere, such as the Latin and English Breviary, which I’ve been tempted to buy - so I’ll never say never:D
Great points!

You are to be commended for buying Irish whenever possible.

It is a tragedy that the Western nations have basically decided to outsource their means of production to other countries, destroying jobs, and destroying the viability of the traditional family in the process, but that is a side issue.

On the point of where to purchase things, I see absolutely no reason to avoid purchasing a book from SSPX, unless it is one of the books they themselves have written and published, because some of this may contain a certain disrespectful and disobedient spirit.

The reprints of books from before the Council, Michael Davies EXCELLENT “Pope John’s Council” and “Pope Paul’s New Mass” (both of which were praised by Pope Benedict) and the incomparable Missal, which is in some ways superior to the Baronius Missal (I have owned both) all of these things present NO moral issue when purchasing.

There ARE those who advocate buying things made in China. We ship our means of production overseas. This is just, plain, stupid. Ignatius press needs to apologize and repent for sending much of their production to that country.

Subsidiarity is a Catholic principle. Buy Irish where you can.

Peace!
 
These comparisons are very helpful. For EF mass I currently use a St. Josephs 1959 missal I bought years ago at a used bookstore for 50 cents (talk about finding a pearl of great price! 🙂 ) I works well except that as I get into following the Mass I find that I miss having the Latin for the propers, also it has no ribbons so I have various holy cards to mark the propers etc. that tend to fall out at inopportune moments :o

I plan to get an Angelus Missal when I have the $.
 
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